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AI requires BIG Data to be of any real benefit.

I'm NOT really sure AAPL is participating in any market that they don't already have everything they need, except perhaps one, the NON-Game portion of the App Store !

But there, they don't need AI, ONLY better common sense.
 
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moved from my google speakers to home pods i can say its a complete challenge alot of the time. i rooting for apple lets get this homekit stuff worth using
 
Tim Cook is still in denial about Siri. I would scrap it and start again.
Every few years you hear "Apple is dedicated to fixing Siri and rebuilding the platform."

It's funny how there are periods where Siri is spot on and I think, "they got it finally!" Then a month or two rolls by and Siri completely falls off the tracks.
 
Artificial intelligence is a contradiction in terms. Artificial it may be but intelligence? NO.

Algorithms and programming may provide useful diagnostics in certain functions...the medical sphere being one of them, but basically AI is a sequence of algorithms based on probability and will never really be a match for 'intelligence'. We can develop computers with massive memory, massive speed where these computers will no doubt assist us in all sorts of ways, but I doubt they will ever match human consciousness or intelligence.

Indeed much research suggests consciousness may be a quantum function in microtubules in the brain.

I'd prefer Apple to have bought chip foundry as AI still in my opinion in its infancy, and will require much more work.

If they spent all this money to assist Siri, then I'd want a refund!
Contradiction in terms? Artificial just denotes origin - i.e. made by man rather than evolved. Intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge to new situations. Seems like neural-net based facial recognition perfectly fits that definition. And nowhere in the definition of 'intelligence' does the word 'consciousness' appear, so your comments regarding that not relevant.

Your own statements later on ("AI still in my opinion in its infancy") are what's contradictory - you can't claim something to be a contradiction in terms and then acknowledge is infant existence!

Just about the only thing I agree with is that Apple is spending a heck of a lot of money on these acquisitions with not much visible result - Siri still sucks.
 
I’m a bit surprised not to see Amazon in that list given that Alexa is a pretty prominent part of its portfolio and is locked in pretty intense competition with Google Assistant on Nest devices (with, as others have mentioned, Siri not really putting up much competition). In my experience Google Assistant is the smartest in terms of AI but Alexa is the best in terms of interaction basics i.e. a single wake up word instead of this “Hey Google/Siri” nonsense, most natural voice, hears me best in sub-optimal environments and is blazingly fast compared to Google(Nest) devices. If only Alexa was a bit smarter in terms of its responses it would dominate all the current competitors.
 
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And yet Siri’s standard answer is “I’ve found a link, I’ll send it to your phone.” No! You’re supposed to be a *voice* assistant so just tell me.
Even my 5 year old thinks Siri is useless compared to Alexa because it can’t answer basic questions about dinosaurs.
 
Apple uses AI in things other than Siri, such as photo processing. I would guess that the acquisitions were for future use when AI will be a much bigger deal as it matures
And, Apple’s doing most of this of this on-device. Other companies have an easier job, really, because they’re doing everything on some powerful computer in the cloud. Apple has to devise a solution THEN refine it to run efficiently/quickly on the phones.
 
My favorite recent Siri moment...

"Siri add milk to the grocery store list." (They same list we've been using for ~ 5 years at least.)
"I'm on it. To which list would you like me to add it to?"
"Grocery"
"To which list would you like me to add it to?"
"Grocery"
"To which list would you like me to add it to?"
"Gro-cer-y"
"To which list would you like me to add it to?"
"F off Siri."
(Wife laughs at me.)

Happening all the time now.
I have shortcut "Dinner time" to control lights.

me: Hey Siri, dinner time.
siri ("Do you know time"): It's 8 pm.
wife: rofl

2 days out of 3
 
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I hear ya..

I took a long solo road trip recently and thought I'd give Siri another chance with some fairly simple travel questions along my journey...no dice. 99% of our interactions ended with me just yelling at her to 'shut up'.
(I dropped her off at a Greyhound station in Tennessee and never looked back :p)
I leaned it hard way to never ever trust siri navigation assistance without checking the route.
It could be so useful on motorcycle with hand free, but no, I have to pull over, pull iphone and use google maps because siri and apple maps is a deadly combination.
 
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I can’t claim to know everything about AI… but at least I know enough to recognize a purely emotional response, devoid of any facts or accuracy whatsoever.
In order to see evidence you have to look. Read up on Sir Roger Penrose's work (a Nobel Prize Winning Polymath and Physicist).and Prof. Stuart Hameroff. Quantum Mechanics appears to be involved in consciousness, and many scientists refute the claim that there can ever be true Artificial Intelligence. For some diagnostics algorithms do help in screening cancers, able to discern pre cancerous formations, but its not intelligence, however helpful it may be.
 
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None of that means AI is a contradiction in terms. It just means we don't have anything that can accurately be called AI yet (not even anything remotely close to it). I'm pretty confident we will one day though, unless you think there's something magical about our meatbag brains? Souls perhaps?
Religions throughout time have considered we have a soul, what we call consciousness. Tibetan monks can provably change their brainwaves to levels previously unknown in science.

With the move from Newtonian physics to Quantum physics or as Einstein calls it "Spooky Science" there are aspects of Quantum physics that suggest consciousness may indeed be outside of the body. A growing body of respectable scientists including Max Planck, Sir Roger Penrose, Prof. Stuart Hameroff and many many more, where quantum vibration through microtubules in the brain, which was originally discounted as being impossible was proven to be taking place.

AI is very clever coding/programming/algorithms but it is not intelligence.

Computers can be programmed to beat humans at chess and many other tasks, but this is not intelligence.

 
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Contradiction in terms? Artificial just denotes origin - i.e. made by man rather than evolved. Intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge to new situations. Seems like neural-net based facial recognition perfectly fits that definition. And nowhere in the definition of 'intelligence' does the word 'consciousness' appear, so your comments regarding that not relevant.

Your own statements later on ("AI still in my opinion in its infancy") are what's contradictory - you can't claim something to be a contradiction in terms and then acknowledge is infant existence!

Just about the only thing I agree with is that Apple is spending a heck of a lot of money on these acquisitions with not much visible result - Siri still sucks.
"Artificial intelligence enables computers and machines to mimic the perception, learning, problem-solving, and decision-making capabilities of the HUMAN MIND."

What is the human mind....would that be consciousness?
 
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Religions throughout time have considered we have a soul, what we call consciousness. Tibetan monks can provably change their brainwaves to levels previously unknown in science.

With the move from Newtonian physics to Quantum physics or as Einstein calls it "Spooky Science" there are aspects of Quantum physics that suggest consciousness may indeed be outside of the body. A growing body of respectable scientists including Max Planck, Sir Roger Penrose, Prof. Stuart Hameroff and many many more, where quantum vibration through microtubules in the brain, which was originally discounted as being impossible was proven to be taking place.

AI is very clever coding/programming/algorithms but it is not intelligence.

Computers can be programmed to beat humans at chess and many other tasks, but this is not intelligence.

1) I don't think soul and consciousness are synonyms. Intelligence even less so.
2) Religions throughout time having a concept is not a defence of that concept.
3) Quantum mechanics and other complex science may well be involved in intelligence or consciousness for all I know (you do seem to be conflating consciousness and intelligence here, which I think is kind of a grey area), but unless you think that those kinda of science only affects human brain cells that has no baring on the theoretical possibility of producing intelligence without said cells.
 
1) I don't think soul and consciousness are synonyms. Intelligence even less so.
2) Religions throughout time having a concept is not a defence of that concept.
3) Quantum mechanics and other complex science may well be involved in intelligence or consciousness for all I know (you do seem to be conflating consciousness and intelligence here, which I think is kind of a grey area), but unless you think that those kinda of science only affects human brain cells that has no baring on the theoretical possibility of producing intelligence without said cells.
you don't think soul and consciousness are synonymous. We differ in our views then. I didn't use to until Quantum Physics threw some spanners in the works of Newtonian Physics. Even the idea that nothing travels faster than the speed of light now wrong.

Or where there is consensus (which seems a contradiction) that there is no such thing as objective reality? Spooky indeed.

Or with quantum entanglement where atoms at different ends of the universe where the state of one changes it simultaneously changes in the other...faster than the speed of light.

Or where even observering can apparently influence the outcome of an experiment.

When Prof. Stuart Hameroff first suggested microtubules in the brain were capable of quantum function other Newtonian physics scientist said it was impossible....only for National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan to not only confirm it was possible but where it was noted microtubules were subject to quantum vibration.

Then ally that to a research at Southampton University Hospital into Near Death Experiences, where it was the largest research ever undertaken into this, where previously it was always suggested patients were hallucinating from the effects of hypoxia....provably now wrong.

In these patients where there was NO discernible brain function, effectively brain dead, patients repeatedly were able in some cases able to recollect actual events whilst they had no brain activity.

Interestingly (or not) when a patient dies there is INCREASED brain activity just moments before death.

In a rather old experiment Duncan MacDougall, a physician from Haverhill, Massachusetts conducted experiments on patients near death in a controlled environment so weight loss from perspiration, bodily fluids etc. would not ruin the experiment. he found there was a loss of 21g mass and concluded it was the soul, i.e. consciousness, where now some quantum physicists also believe this possible.

Now 21g seems tiny, except even with Einstein's Conservation of Mass and other theories, 21g whilst seeming insignificant has been the subject of calculation, as Data has mass, energy has equivalence.

Computer scientist at the University of California, Professor John Kubiatowicz, has used Einstein's formula e=mc² to calculate, that filling a 4GB Kindle would increase it by 0.000000000000000001 gram.

So how much data in 21g!

If microtubules are capable of quantum function and they are, as the Japanese suggested then via quantum entanglement its feasible consciousness is not within the body. Consciousness is what differentiates between humans and computers. No matter how powerful a computer, it is NOT intelligent. It is programmed by humans (at present);

One thing we know from history is science changes. I remember being told at school we were born with brain cells that were there for life and if damaged could not be replaced. PROVABLY NOW WRONG.

Look back at psychology, and see how now it has progressed to neurophysiology.

In the past if you had a computer at all, you would have probably been hanged for witchcraft.

Never discount anything.


 
I hear ya..

I took a long solo road trip recently and thought I'd give Siri another chance with some fairly simple travel questions along my journey...no dice. 99% of our interactions ended with me just yelling at her to 'shut up'.
(I dropped her off at a Greyhound station in Tennessee and never looked back :p)
"I dropped her off at a Greyhound station in Tennessee and never looked back" sounds like the first line in a country song.
 
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