I can almost guarantee you there are more people in Apple's stores with an NFC-supporting credit card than there are with iPhones. Let alone the most recent version of iPhone.
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Apple Bringing NFC Payment Technology to Retail Stores?
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I can almost guarantee you there are more people in Apple's stores with an NFC-supporting credit card than there are with iPhones. Let alone the most recent version of iPhone.
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I think we may need to wait for NYCMTA to introduce tap cards like LA Metro before we see NFC on transit in the US.
LA Metro can barely get the TAP system functional as is.
I think we may need to wait for NYCMTA to introduce tap cards like LA Metro before we see NFC on transit in the US.
LA Metro can barely get the TAP system functional as is.
Yeah, just look at the last Consumer Reports Mag. Has a nice graphic of a black T-Shirt type with his radio receiver and his credit card skimmer all set up in a brief case. Just waiting to suck your financial data. I need to see some security protocols here before this tech. goes nation wide.
Better yet, how did Southeast Asia deploy this technology?
There are no horror stories flooding from Japan or South Korea and they've been using RFID-equipped cellphones for about six years for NFC contactless payment (transit systems, event tickets, retail store payments, etc.).
Surely they are using some protocols that make hacking and skimming difficult.
I believe it's more of an issue in getting most of Europe to cooperate. After all, nearly 60 percent of Apple's revenue comes from international markets. The world as a whole needs to get together to make NFC work.
It's all just Nostra-Comedy. And we won't be raptured on May 21st and the world will not end on December 21, 2012. Resume your normal activities.
P.S. When any of these "prophecies" present any verifiable facts whatsoever (and surely they can do so in entirely modern, unequivocal terminology identifying precise dates, times, names, places, devices, etc., which shouldn't be hard since they're using some "scientific way to transmit the future"), then we can talk.
I don’t get this. How does offering NFC payments in a week when there will be no Apple devices with the capability until September make sense? What am I missing?
Plus, it’s not as if Apple did the same thing when they finally removed the Moto WinCE handheld payment systems in favor of their iPod Touch systems with the CC reader and iPads. They just added them and let people pay accordingly.
What would the new posters say? Now offering NFC payments if you have a Samsung Nexus S!
Plus, it’s not as if Apple did the same thing when they finally removed the Moto WinCE handheld payment systems in favor of their iPod Touch systems with the CC reader and iPads. They just added them and let people pay accordingly.
What would the new posters say? Now offering NFC payments if you have a Samsung Nexus S!
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You're missing the fact that there are plenty of RFID-chipped credit cards in people's wallets.
There is already other point-of-sale terminal equipment that provide NFC contactless payment, however many American retailers are reluctant to spend the time and money to upgrade their systems.
So American consumers continue to swipe their cards and press icky keypads.
okay I feel STUPID asking but isn't the point of the RFID chip to get rid of credit cards altogether? why are they in credit cards? or am I just plain ignorant?
Man, make up your mind on posting the NFC news on the front page. It seems like there have been contradicting posts every other week.
Dont you think this special resetting of hardware and kiosks at all the Apple stores to install NFC payments is a tad too early for a September launch of an NFC enabled iPhone 5/4s? Could it just be that come June 6, they will make a surprise announcement on the new phone? If not, that seems like a lot of time for them to hide the true reasoning behind the new NFC point-of-sales kiosks for NFC enabled iPhones. I've got baited breath...
Why not, they've got Thunderbolt in the MBP and iMac range and there's nothing to plug in until the Summer.
According to American Express, it was supposed to be for convenience:
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/view/1646/1/1
Don't think this is about POS terminals being enabled for NFC/RFID transactions. Most RFID equipped cards have a ceiling on transaction size as they were originally envisioned for small payment transactions (i.e. couple of bucks spent at 7-Eleven). This also reduces the risk if the card is lost.
Unless the rules are going to be changed (or have changed), this won't work at an Apple store where your average transaction is probably $300 - $500.
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It actually would be hard to transmit signals through time, in fact it may be impossible. None of these ideas are based on verifiable facts in terms of statistics or the scientific method. They are unverified facts based on reading interesting data, looking at situations, and making deductions.
We are in full agreement, so what is your point?
The payment limit probably varies by country or maybe by card processor.
It's okay with me. I'm fine with having my card swiped on larger transaction, maybe I can buy an iTunes Gift Card via NFC contactless payment.
I think this is a key point. The benefit of NFC transaction is for convenience for making small, repeatable purchases, not large one time transactions. The real revolution will come if Apple can deliver a system that allows vendors to collect money for purchases with a lower transaction fee than credit/debit cards. It doesn't make much difference on a $1000 dollar computer purchase but if you're Starbucks selling millions of $3 coffees then every penny counts....
They should jus embed the damn nfc in it. How hard is it?
I use it everday and its great! I love the ease and quickness
I use it everday and its great! I love the ease and quickness
Yeah that's what they say. So far I think it's a stupid gimmick. It's just as easy to swipe your card honestly (I fail to see how it is faster), sometimes it is easier cause the card reader tends to read faster than the RFID chip reader.
Only reason I ever use it on my Amex card is that it's gimmicky and I'm easily amused honestly. I haven't seen that it makes anything any easier *shrug* (except maybe for thieves to grab CC info on the chip though I read that that is more paranoia than reality, but I dunno).
Now, if it was on my phone, that I could see being easier. It's much easier to find my phone in my purse than grab my wallet and try to find a whole bunch of cards.
On the other hand, that depends on how this whole thing would be implemented. WOuld it just be I have one card encoded on the chip so I could use the phone for that one card? Or would it have some way of me telling which card (in which case it may be easier just to take the card I want off rather than having to fidget with the phone to tell it which card to scan. Course I guess that depends on how it was implemented).
Of course, it would make it easier for thieves to steal your credit cards... and more incentive for them to go after people's cellphones.
There are lots of convenience factors. I have a MasterCard with an RFID chip and it lets me wave the card against a reader when I shop in stores that support it. No swiping, no signing. For small purchases (like a coffee) I don't even have to authenticate anything; for larger purchases I enter a PIN instead of using a signature.
Some of it makes things go faster. It reduces wear on my card (my credit cards start to look very worn around the stripe after hundreds of uses). And my understanding is it's supposed to reduce fraud because anyone can copy down your credit card number and encode a decoy card with the same number on the magnetic strip, but it would take a lot more effort to clone whatever's inside an RFID chip.
The Christian Bible itself says in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 that nobody knows the day or hour of the rapture, not even Jesus Christ himself. Skeptics can say "Ooh, how convenient" but believers can take it to mean that May 21 is no more likely the end of the world than tomorrow or 2012 or 1000 years from now.
That's not the claim.
The claim was Apple will not be including NFC for e-Wallet applications, in the next generation iPhone.
If Apple releases NFC-payments in the iPhones without having NFC-payments accepted in the Apple stores, it would be hard for them to genuinely say it was the future!
So, to recap: The next iPhone may, or may not, or may, or may not, have NFC payment technology.
I genuinely lol'd.
