That is funny, but I'd do the same if I were them. The US government has shown with things like stuxnet and flame that they can be VERY aggressive and invasive with cyber intelligence and even outright sabotage. (I'm not faulting the goals, or implying that we have need to use them against China in the near future, just pointing out the capability.) I doubt our government has as much sway over Cisco as China has over their manufacturing plants, it's not out of the realm of possibility. I think it's important that critical infrastructure be designed and manufactured in-country, and China apparently feels the same. Nothing wrong with that.
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Apple Bringing Some Mac Production Back to U.S. in 2013
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That is funny, but I'd do the same if I were them. The US government has shown with things like stuxnet and flame that they can be VERY aggressive and invasive with cyber intelligence and even outright sabotage. (I'm not faulting the goals, or implying that we have need to use them against China in the near future, just pointing out the capability.) I doubt our government has as much sway over Cisco as China has over their manufacturing plants, it's not out of the realm of possibility. I think it's important that critical infrastructure be designed and manufactured in-country, and China apparently feels the same. Nothing wrong with that.
Exactly. All the more reason to keep that money here!
It's a shame we push companies like Apple to keep tens of billions overseas by taxing the heck out of it if they try to bring the money they've earned overseas (and already paid that country's taxes on) back to the US...
And these jobs wont be slinging hamburgers.
Check out the following link for some more information on what can and *should* be done to address the challenge.
http://social.dol.gov/blog/central-piedmont-community-college-blazing-a-path-on-employer-partnerships/
Just wait...
So what happens when Apple isn't making huge profits anymore? Eventually something else is going to come along and knock Apple off their post. don't get me wrong, I love Apple and Apple products. Almost everything in my house is Apple, or uses some Apple product in some way... but eventually consumer interests will shift, and Apple really has a limited product line... so eventually they aren't going to be bathing in cash... so what happens to all of these "feel good" projects when that happens??? Do the data centers shutter their fuel cell facilities and switch back to the grid? They go back to building EVERYTHING over seas where labor is more cost effective? Do they stop caring how "green" their products are? and move away from expensive glass and aluminum to cheaper plastics?
I'm just saying, its nice that they are doing all of this now, while they have tons of cash laying around... but people are very fickle... everyone that loves you now for doing all of these "responsible" things... will hate you when you have to make cost effective decisions later in order to survive
So what happens when Apple isn't making huge profits anymore? Eventually something else is going to come along and knock Apple off their post. don't get me wrong, I love Apple and Apple products. Almost everything in my house is Apple, or uses some Apple product in some way... but eventually consumer interests will shift, and Apple really has a limited product line... so eventually they aren't going to be bathing in cash... so what happens to all of these "feel good" projects when that happens??? Do the data centers shutter their fuel cell facilities and switch back to the grid? They go back to building EVERYTHING over seas where labor is more cost effective? Do they stop caring how "green" their products are? and move away from expensive glass and aluminum to cheaper plastics?
I'm just saying, its nice that they are doing all of this now, while they have tons of cash laying around... but people are very fickle... everyone that loves you now for doing all of these "responsible" things... will hate you when you have to make cost effective decisions later in order to survive
Good News! The Mac Pro is coming back. They'll make products here that they don't make money on because it will be very expensive to produce these products anyway. Artificial "Jobs" Creation ;-)
That's the first thing that I guess as well, also those are relatively simple to make so they wouldn't require too much labor. Maybe also some more iMacs.
Engadget also recently reported that Foxconn was opening a new plant in the U.S., so I guess this is going to come to fruition soon
It's not an education problem, it's an intelligence problem. Some people just aren't smart enough for college, but they would do great in a trade school program. Problem is, these people get that "everyone needs a college education" line foisted on them, then they either fail out because they weren't smart enough to begin with, or the eventually graduate with a degree in nothing marketable, either way saddled with mountains of debt. I'd wager that a full half of people in college right now would be better served in a trade school of some sort.
They aren't spending their cash to do any of this (alumium, premium materials), in fact they make around 30% profit per unit sold. So no Apple isn't crashing any time soon.
Well, considering the biggest, fattest Mac is the Mac Pro, it would be fitting if it was made in the country with the highest obesity rates in the world.
This is good news. Though I am not an American (am an Israeli in fact), I prefer stuff that has "Made in the USA" on them. Gives me a warm feeling of confidence in the product I am using.
This is good news. Though I am not an American (am an Israeli in fact), I prefer stuff that has "Made in the USA" on them. Gives me a warm feeling of confidence in the product I am using.
I am not so confident, considering how long the USA has not been making stuff... but we have to start from somewhere don't we?
Americans are champions in building stuff and they still build some of the best products on the planet.
It will be the Mini. The pro goes extinct, the Mini is easiest to make at a China competetive price, and the Mini is eating margin from all other lines at the moment too. It will be the last Mac to survive.
Memory, flash storage and CPUs are already produced in the US.
Mechanical hard drives, motherboards, and graphics cards, currently require many parts that are produced by many companies. These companies are mostly clustered together, having grown to make manufacturing and transport logistics easier. You can't just shift that to the US. We've evolved away from a vertically integrated semiconductor industry, going back makes no sense.
I hope it is the mac pro as other are saying i just hope it doesn't come at one a price and second late in 2013... I need it now, not later...
People don't realize how much stuff is still made in America because the media push the concept that there is nothing left as hard as they can.
I just don't get the thinking that Tim Cook is going to build a factory that's not profitable.
This is Tim Cook we're talking about, the guy lives manufacturing logistics.
I'd bet my next paycheck that this has been analyzed and costs scrutinized and a 10-year plan in place with risks identified and contingency plans and the whole lot. This wouldn't be something he would offhandedly come up with during a Brian Williams interview, this is something he would've had his whole team working on for months and months.
This is Tim Cook we're talking about, the guy lives manufacturing logistics.
I'd bet my next paycheck that this has been analyzed and costs scrutinized and a 10-year plan in place with risks identified and contingency plans and the whole lot. This wouldn't be something he would offhandedly come up with during a Brian Williams interview, this is something he would've had his whole team working on for months and months.
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