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Apple Building Unified Cloud Platform for iCloud, iTunes, Siri and More
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The only issue I've been having with Apple's Internet services recently has been FaceTime and iMessage randomly failing to authenticate... which Gmail does too. iCloud has been good for what I use it for (everything except backup and documents) in the past couple of years. The backup service sucks for many reasons, and it'll probably always suck, so I use my desktop for that.
I don't think Apple will ever beat Dropbox in their arena, but whatever, you can just use Dropbox as I did until I learned git. There's nothing there that needs to work with the rest of iCloud. If Apple copied Dropbox, they'd probably make it less cross-platform and/or stingier on storage. Don't bother waiting for it.
I don't think Apple will ever beat Dropbox in their arena, but whatever, you can just use Dropbox as I did until I learned git. There's nothing there that needs to work with the rest of iCloud. If Apple copied Dropbox, they'd probably make it less cross-platform and/or stingier on storage. Don't bother waiting for it.
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That's the thing. & they're so stingy with storage. You pay x amount for an iPhone and get free software updates for years, why not also free cloud storage?
Ideally, make iTunes Match free (or even if it's Upload only, not Match), and up the Document storage to 50GB (as its now only 99 cents). If they did those changes, I wouldn't ever need iTunes because all of my key data would be in iCloud. Getting my music onto my new phone would be as simple as logging in. Like how painless it is to get your existing Apps, iTunes Music and Notes onto a new iOS device.
One thing I hope for is *not* a load of work and a massive release.
If you look at Apple Pay: there seem to have been minimal problems, but a slow roll out. Eventually, it will be worldwide.
It would be lovely for new cloud services to be introduced that way. A replacement to one aspect of iCloud at WWDC 2016, rolls out country by country until WWDC 2017 it's worldwide. Then the next element of iCloud, and the next, until we have a solid set of cloud services?
If Apple really wants to get serious they need to invest more into cross-platform developing and a true competitor to Google Docs. You can do so much with Google Docs beyond writing, like web forms, that iCloud just can't handle. Bringing back Safari for other platforms would also help them compete with people already on Windows (and who may own an iPhone already).
Seems like they are sort of letting Microsoft and Google take the lead on software.
Seems like they are sort of letting Microsoft and Google take the lead on software.
Every-time Apple adds something else or makes it "better", its always doesn't go well at all...
Apple music is a good example of this... Some say they will be ironed out given time, but Apple forget something that has gone "public" should of been ironed out first, because people arn't gonna stay.
I don't think anything good can come out of what Apple has in mind for iCloud..... I look at it as just one huge mess.
And i'm not only talking about Apple music here... photos too, anything u sync using icloud. The problem is its all in one.. Apple needs to separate these out in separate, easier to manage services on their own. If they had done that from the ground up, and i don't mean i migration on mobile me customers, actually build it again from scratch, it would of been different, but Apple always like to take short-cuts. (in relation to this, and although not as complicated, when their developer page got hacked, they took it down for "8 days" while they coded it from "scratch"..)
but they don't do this with icloud after migration ? no wonder their in the hole their in.
And unless Apple does something to solve this, it won't get better, i can guarantee that.
It's good when these work, but its no surprise when it doesn't
Apple music is a good example of this... Some say they will be ironed out given time, but Apple forget something that has gone "public" should of been ironed out first, because people arn't gonna stay.
I don't think anything good can come out of what Apple has in mind for iCloud..... I look at it as just one huge mess.
And i'm not only talking about Apple music here... photos too, anything u sync using icloud. The problem is its all in one.. Apple needs to separate these out in separate, easier to manage services on their own. If they had done that from the ground up, and i don't mean i migration on mobile me customers, actually build it again from scratch, it would of been different, but Apple always like to take short-cuts. (in relation to this, and although not as complicated, when their developer page got hacked, they took it down for "8 days" while they coded it from "scratch"..)
but they don't do this with icloud after migration ? no wonder their in the hole their in.
And unless Apple does something to solve this, it won't get better, i can guarantee that.
It's good when these work, but its no surprise when it doesn't
I signed up with iTools back in January 2000, and I've been through every subsequent iteration of Apple's Internet services. It's gotten progressively more complicated as new layers were added on, despite re-organization and re-branding. I now have two Apple ID accounts, one that I use for purchasing content and another for my personal email, calendars, and other data.
It's often difficult to understand how Apple ID, iCloud, iTunes, and the App Stores relate, especially when you have more than one Apple ID and multiple devices. For example, why do I get asked to log in with my Apple ID on one of my Macs, even when I'm already signed in to the corresponding iCloud account? Throw two-factor authentication into the mix and it gets really confusing.
I pretty much always get what I need because I've been through it and know the intricacies. But I expect better from Apple. If Apple can build a unified system that links all this in a way that's reliable and understandable by average users, I'm all for it. In fact, I'd say that it's essential, since this is the glue that holds the pieces in the Apple ecosystem together.
It shows that Apple hasn't really thought things through. LIke the whole merging Apple IDs bug. Should be a trivial database operation, yet Apple won't or can't do it. I'm not sure which is worse. iCloud email has spam filters that silently discard email, which is a big no-no, and it still doesn't support user-owned domains. iCloud Drive doesn't sync as reliably as Dropbox and I'm not sure if it passes a backup bouncer test.
Considering that Apple already has thousands of dollars of my money (since an Apple ][), you would think maybe Five TERABYTES would be nice per device? Hardly anybody would use that much. Or how about simply FREE if you're a device owner? Seriously Mr. Cook, you are doing yourself and Apple a major disservice with this your under-the-breath comment at the tail end of your latest iPhone announcement about cutting iCloud price in half while doubling the pixels of the camera... Some deal that is. And exactly how can we save our picures "forever"? if "forever" * $120/year/terabyte = $infinity money? Yes. #SayNoToiCloud!
I have yet to see what's the big problem with Apple Music, since I started using it hooked me up. Let's say it even saved my life (and wallet too, would spend before potentially $20 to $100 a month). People I have shown it to get hooked, apple or non apple users. What's the huge the deal that I seem to be missing? Sharing playlists works, accessing any available song works, change of playlist that had the same currently playing song seamlessly switches playlist without restarting currently playing song, same for radio stations, the suggestions work surprisingly well, switch device, go to windows, go to mac, songs and playlists are there (long gone are the days that I had to carry around an external drive for the music). I mean, what the hell is there that I'm missing? Am I imagining all the music I'm enjoying?
Note: I never tried grooveshark, spotify, rdio nor friends... however I don't see apple Music as something that "doesn't work, let's ditch it"
They just try to lock you in a geographic location over Internet indefinitely if possible.
This seems to be ironic, especially for me.
Oh I don't know about that though.. I just normally download stuff and update the apps if I have to.. When u say it's like that.. Yeah that's a bummer.. It's crap
iCloud music library is ok. But automatic downloads? You mean automatically install apps and download music?