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Apple Buying Up High End Penryn Processors?

statikcat said:
Yes, Apple will support both formats of course. They will not shut out one format. That would not be customer friendly. My point was Apple is on the Blu-ray board. They have money invested in Blu-ray technology. If you dont think this effects how Apple deals with Blu-ray over HD DVD in some reguard then you are probably wrong. :D
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What money invested? They wanted Apple on the board. Apple is also a member of the DVD Forum. Nothing says Apple has a preference.
 
Apple is on the Blu-ray Board of Directors. Excuse me if I am wrong but does this not mean you have a good amount of stock investment? There is a difference between being active on DVD forums and investing money in BLu-ray. Apple may never show an advantage to one over the other .. but it is in their best interest for Blu-ray to prevail the format war because of this. Either way Apple wins to an extent because any HD format period = money for them in sales in various reguards.
 
What stock? These are industry standards organizations, not companies.
 
Well reguardless being active on forums and being on a Board of Directors is two completely different positions/things..

Anyway, back to topic :)
 
The Mac Pro is a pretty amazing system even as old as it is. I have the HP equivalent running Windows XP 64 at work and I certainly never lack for performance.

I do echo the desires/complaints of those who wish Apple had a "middle system" between the iMac and the MacPro. Something that could take two slimline optical drives and three or four 3.5" (or even 2.5") HDDs with either a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Extreme (4-way).

The iMac is a nice general use system, but it's annoying to have a FireWire slimline optical drive to do CD/DVD copies and needing an external HDD/NAS for storage. Yet the cost of just the base Mac Pro is more then an iMac 24".
 
~Shard~ said:
These Penryn processors are not out until November, so I think Mac Pros at the end of October is unlikely, unless it is an announcement with a shipping date several weeks out. Of course, Apple could always have somehow got advanced copies of the chips and have had them up and running for months... :p ;)

As for a Mac nano, nah, give me a Yorkfield Mini-tower! :D :cool:
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Not quite. OEMs get chips well before their street date. As Apple has done iwth other chips, and other OEMs do it too. Dell was shipping C2D machines before the CPU street date. You will see other manufacturers shipping Penryn machines before months end.

My point is that Apple is in no way bound my the street date of those CPUs. They will be able to get them out before if they are done with them.
 
I prefer Bluray

Technology wise, Bluray is superior to HD-DVD.

Take raw storage. Bluray single layer is 25 GB, HD-DVD is 15GB. Double layer is common on both formats 30GB and 50GB. Bluray has scaled to 8 layer 200GB disks already (prototyped). There is a 3-layer 51GB HD-DVD and that's about it.

Now, let us look at transfer rate. Bluray (as in movies) has a peak transfer rate somewhere north of 50Mbit/sec. HD-DVD is limited to about 30Mbit/sec total. I own a PS3 and I can monitor the bitrate while playing movies. I have seen 40+ Mbit/sec for video (H.264) and 6+ Mbit/sec for audio. I have one Bluray disk that has 13.9Mbit/sec audio (5.1 channel 24-bit/96kHz PCM).

While both HD-DVD and Bluray support the same codecs (MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC aka H.264, and microsoft VC-1), the user interface and navigation is done in java (BD-J) in bluray and a microsoft technology called HDi in HD-DVD. Most HD-DVD movies use VC-1 also not AVC. Since Apple has a lot riding on AVC, I think it is in Apple's interest to pursue Bluray.

Microsoft has a lot more input into HD-DVD compared to bluray. I think they are doing this to spite Sony and to also not allow any disk technology to mature.

I would really like bluray to win!!
 
Glad to hear it. Apple's sales strategy is working. I'm going to upgrade from my dual G4 power mac soon. I might go to a well-equipped 24" iMac, but now that it has a shiny, super-windexed patio door of a screen cover, I'm solidly in the separate display camp. I may have been here anyway, but it does seem an option has been foreclosed because of that undesirable "feature".

I am looking forward to upgraded Mac Pros and Nov would be great. And displays too, Apple? Cinemas with built-in iSight and a price drop would be a wonderful early Christmas present.
 
It's About Time !

I know a LOT of us have been waiting for an updated Mac Pro. Can I get an AMEN that we actually have a rumor about our future product for a change??

Now, if Apple can only manage to NOT screw up the video card options (which they could likely do...[iMac...])

Give us the 8800GTX Apple, for the love of all humanity!!!!!

DON'T SCREW THIS UP STEVE!

If Apple doesn't screw up the video card options, they've got my $money$. Plus a little more for Logic Studio and iWork 08. Probably Final Cut Express too. :apple:
 
CWallace said:
I do echo the desires/complaints of those who wish Apple had a "middle system" between the iMac and the MacPro. Something that could take two slimline optical drives and three or four 3.5" (or even 2.5") HDDs with either a Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Extreme (4-way).
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well the article did say something about Apple buying up Yorktown processors too. arn't those the desktop processors? If they are and that is correct about Apple buying them there is no where else for them to go than to a new mid range tower.
 
Thx Dell

Thank You DELL for not shipping my "H2Owhatever" in time... thank you for letting me hang for a month before telling me that I'll have to wait another month...I go so far to say thank you for not giving me my money back for 2 months .... BECAUSE NOW THANKS TO YOU - DELL - I HAVE A CHANCE TO BUY THIS :D:D :D
 
Could recent history be repeating?

Has anyone else considered this?

A year ago, the Clovers were coming out in November.

Last March, all of a sudden the Mac Pros saw a processor (in terms of speed) that hadn't been speculated.

This coming November, again comes a new processor model.

Could it take until March again before it ships?

Note that the only difference is we "know" about the purchase of the "next better than the release" ahead of time. Last time it wasn't speculated if I remember correctly.

Maybe, just maybe (and believe me I'm hoping) Apple is finally gaining the trust/respect/power with Intel to be fortunate on deals like this, and perhaps earlier than one would anticipate?

After all, the holiday shopping season is coming up.
 
cube said:
Super Multi drive already includes RAM, DL. +-

Apple should just use the regular name, unless they omit to add the "HD" when it also burns it.

Shouldn't be called Superduperdrive unless it also supported HD VMD and HVD.
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SuperDrive = DVD±DL R/RW/ROM | CD±r/RW/ROM

UltraDrive = Blu-Ray50 R/RW/ROM | HD-DVD25 R/RW/ROM | DVD±DL R/RW/ROM | CD±r/RW/ROM (might include a RAM option as required).

It's time for the UltraDrive.
 
???

Anyone think we will see a new case design this time??? :) or next??? :(

What are really the chances of Blue Ray or HD DVD really???
 
ThunderLounge said:
Maybe, just maybe (and believe me I'm hoping) Apple is finally gaining the trust/respect/power with Intel to be fortunate on deals like this, and perhaps earlier than one would anticipate?
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Could very well be.

When the new iMac offered a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo Extreme (Mobile) option, many (myself included) believed this was the 2.6GHz part overclocked. Yet but a few weeks later (if that), Intel offered the 2.8GHz part to the world, so Apple had it first.
 
Why are people hoping for the 8800GTX? Come on, we can do better than that...

If this thing is going to be released in December/January (MWSF probably) then we're looking at the NEXT generation of GPUs being out. How about the "ATI Radeon HD2950", which is apparently made on a 55 nm process, and according to The Inquirer, has better performance than the HD 2900, and uses a lot less power.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/01/ati-rv670-beat-r600

Two of those, with dual quad core 3.2 GHz Xeons and 4-8 GB RAM would certainly be one fast, fast machine.

Put one or two in a smallish box with a 3.33GHz Yorkfield and 4 GB RAM, and you suddenly have a minitower perfect for gaming, or anything else.

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raggedjimmi said:
Apple should just buy out Intel and be done with it.
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Too true, too true. That would certainly be amusing... I think Windows would die very quickly.
 
CWallace said:
The Mac Pro is a pretty amazing system even as old as it is. I have the HP equivalent running Windows XP 64 at work and I certainly never lack for performance.
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Wow, with that kind of processing power at your disposal, you could probably manage to run Vista.
 
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