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Apple Campus 2 'Spaceship' Taking Shape as Construction Continues

SlipperySlop said:
Unreal. Do you have any data whatsoever to back this up? Of course not. It's just a *** blurb. Many excellent companies have very nice headquarters.
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He may not but I do. There have been several companies in Silicon Valley that over capitalized on a new HQ and took a big hit on it by not investing in product development as aggressively.

Some of the best examples over the past twenty five years are: Atari, Seeq, AMD, Apple (right after Inifintie Loop was built, the Newton failed and Scully left), Palm (a totally screw up talking a real estate hit) and even eBay. So yes, there is presidence as budgets are moved, groups disrupted into new offices and the turnover resulting from a move.
 
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C DM said:
To be fair a number of them produced things that were seen as quite important and useful and were seen as something that would only get better at the time when those companies were at their heights of popularity.
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Sure… Much like Apple produced the iPod Classic (or even the wildly popular iPod Mini before the Nano), and ended up cannibalizing itself with the iPhone (and the Nano) before their competitors had the chance… That's the little detail about Apple that people always seem to forget: the willingness to kill their own babies, internal divisions be damned.

In fact, if you pay close attention to how projects are managed internally, there are a lot of developers that transition from one first-generation product to the next, never really becoming encroached on a division or attached to a “baby”. That factor alone sets Apple wildly apart from most of their competition and keeps its product categories fresh and up-to-date. It's a recipe for corporate longevity. ;)
 
flopticalcube said:
Sometimes technology evolves faster than laws do.
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The legal presidence is that drones of this type follow the same jurisdiction of RC airplanes and helicopters that have been in use by hobbies for over fifty years.

Issue is these new multi rotor RC copters (a.k.a. drones) is they have closed loop feedback stabling their position in the air without user control. From that, less skilled pilots can use them along with becoming a platform. You make a product so easy any idiot can use it, that becomes your customer base.

Now we have a situation where responsible RC pilots are displaced by any lesser trained user that has the money for a unit. Same goes with CB Radios in cars and inexperience people are using their cell phone irresponsibility.
 
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Mainyehc said:
In fact, if you pay close attention to how projects are managed internally, there are a lot of developers that transition from one first-generation product to the next, never really becoming encroached on a division or attached to a “baby”. That factor alone sets Apple wildly apart from most of their competition and keeps its product categories fresh and up-to-date. It's a recipe for corporate longevity. ;)
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This is a management technique taught by some of the better MBA schools. A single or group of people should not live with a product from it's cradle to grave. You have those on the vanguard ("mountain men") who do prototypes, those that productize the design ("cowboys"), sustain the design ("homesteaders") into larger markets and finally ("morticians") that wind down a product to discontinuation legacy support. Each type has different personalities and skills for a product phase.
 
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CFreymarc said:
The legal presidence is that drones of this type follow the same jurisdiction of RC airplanes and helicopters that have been in use by hobbies for over fifty years.

Issue is these new multi rotor RC copters (a.k.a. drones) is they have closed loop feedback stabling their position in the air without user control. From that, less skilled pilots can use them along with becoming a platform. You make a product so easy any idiot can use it, that becomes your customer base.

Now we have a situation where responsible RC pilots are displaced by any lesser trained user that has the money for a unit. Same goes with CB Radios in cars and inexperience people are using their cell phone irresponsibility.
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And cameras.
 
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its interesting u never see a workman there while these drones are in the air.

I'm guessing its probably no one wants to be dob'ed in.

Just once i'd like to see one even of u see a pic of a lazy workmen of his lunch break.
 
Tech198 said:
its interesting u never see a workman there while these drones are in the air.

I'm guessing its probably no one wants to be dob'ed in.

Just once i'd like to see one even of u see a pic of a lazy workmen of his lunch break.
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Probably done on days and/or times when there's no construction since someone would likely notice the drone otherwise which would bring unwanted attention to it. As for workmen, why would they be seen as lazy if they are on their lunchbreak?
 
webbuzz said:
I agree. But I highly doubt the large hill outside will remain.
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Topsoil. When they excavate, they first remove the top layer of the soil which is of much higher quality than the lower soils. Final grading will be done with the topsoil which will also allow plants and grass to be grown. The soil below is unfit for growing anything, and any that they have removed will be trucked away to be used as fill dirt in some other construction where they need to build up a low point in their property or used on-site for a similar purpose.

The "mountain" is green because it has been sprayed with something to keep it in place. Many times contractors will plant grass on their topsoil mountains to help keep them from washing away.

What I didn't see (and I may have missed it) is a way to get all the heavy machinery out from the inside of the loop once the soil is finally graded in there. Perhaps they will use a very large crane or even a helicopter to remove the machinery?
 
I honestly never noticed the huge hill of earth they shifted to the south of the site until this video.
 
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MikhailT said:
You might want to re-read the story, it is the opposite.



Both the court and the FAA has said it is illegal to shoot down drones, FAA confirms it is a federal violation.

It's very clear from the federal and most of the state laws, you DO NOT own the sky or the airspace above your building, it is as simple as that.

If someone has a telescope that can look at you from the street, that's not illegal as well.
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I find that extraordinary.

Taken to its logical conclusion, someone could fly a drone at head height in your back garden and there would be nothing you could do about it.

In the UK, the air above private property is included for a
certain distance. So it is illegal for others to fly low over private property. That certainly applies to drones.
 
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CFreymarc said:
This is a management technique taught by some of the better MBA schools. A single or group of people should not live with a product from it's cradle to grave. You have those on the vanguard ("mountain men") who do prototypes, those that productize the design ("cowboys"), sustain the design ("homesteaders") into larger markets and finally ("morticians") that wind down a product to discontinuation legacy support. Each type has different personalities and skills for a product phase.
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The moar you know… ;)

I honestly didn't know that for a fact but, by closely observing Apple for the past 12 years, I had a strong suspicion they had that kind of management… After all, Ive was responsible for overseeing all of Apple's industrial design efforts, Tony Fadell didn't just oversee the iPod (a team of his did an alternative iPhone version, right?), Scott Forstall wasn't just responsible for iOS, etc. etc. Lately, with the thawing of secrecy promoted by Tim Cook, there have also been a few interviews and in-depth articles about Apple and its developers that shed some light on those constant internal staff migrations across product lines… And Steve's cold, merciless killing of internally and externally well-loved projects during his early “second-coming” days were also a big indicator of that pragmatism, too…

Anyway, thank you for putting it into such clear terms. It does make a lot of sense now…
 
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I hope there are many more fly overs after it is completed and Apple employees are there. I would like to see how they do the landscaping in the circle.
 
I am curious on what stops tech geeks from engineering "stealth" drones and flying in at night, and attaching wireless cameras, microphones all around the building for spying, etc. So that he/she get's the inside scoop way after the building is finished. Sort of a a shotgun approach. Get creative enough and place them in various places. not all would be successful, but use the law of large numbers.
 
A building designed as a self tribute to the departed leader, I'm sure in his absence the similarly worshipped Elon Musk would love to use the center area to showcase his much ballyhooed Space X Rocket.
 
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