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Apple Car Speculated to Leverage Eye-Tracking Technology With a 'C1' Chip Based on A12 Processor

cmaier said:
No, apple doesn’t license CPU cores. And an a12 would be inadequate by 2024, especially if this is to support self-driving. Report is rubbish.

And “automotive-grade processor” is gibberish, as well. For cars you need to modify the package, not the die.
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Both.
Apple will need to add fault tolerance to be able to support anything but infotainment in a car.
They will need to support ASIL-C/D (ISO-26262) which means they need fault tolerance in computing and recovery.
But the bottom line is, the report is trash.
Who writes this stuff?
 
It is typical for manufacturing vehicles that they will have planned out their system 5 years in advance since there is such rigorous testing that often takes and the time to design all of the components/assembly lines/etc.

There is a possibility that this C1 will be used initially and it could be swapped out for a newer one later. But probably only the AI portion. There most certainly will be more than one system designed too. Modern cars have multiple computers. One for everyday runtime, one for AI/Self driving, one for infotainment, etc. And “one” really is multiple since it has to have redundancy.

Dies designed for vehicles will have to do things such as instant startup, and work in extreme cold and heat environments which means the design has to plan for those variations that affect the way the electricity flows. It’s not as simple as just slapping an existing die on a custom package.
 
techwhiz said:
Both.
Apple will need to add fault tolerance to be able to support anything but infotainment in a car.
They will need to support ASIL-C/D (ISO-26262) which means they need fault tolerance in computing and recovery.
But the bottom line is, the report is trash.
Who writes this stuff?
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Yeah, obviously the CIRCUITS will be different - it will be a different chip - but the *fab process* doesn’t need to be different.

This isn’t a deal where cars need rad hard chips or anything.
 
cmaier said:
Yeah, obviously the CIRCUITS will be different - it will be a different chip - but the *fab process* doesn’t need to be different.

This isn’t a deal where cars need rad hard chips or anything.
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No, agreed.
Nothing special about automotive silicon.
 
I just hope that whatever they do, there are a couple backup computers in each car and that they use ECC RAM.
 
DanTSX said:
You can take your mask off in your car.
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Yes, of course! But that’s not my point. I was trying to be sarcastic about why Apple hasn’t implemented a solution to the fact of everybody is using masks and FaceID fails to recognize us. I think it would be as easy as release an updated iOS which allows 2 FaceID profiles for a person: one with mask and the other without it.

Actually I have already edited my last comment to make clear my sarcasm.
 
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iGüey said:
Yes, of course! But that’s not my point. I was trying to be sarcastic about why Apple hasn’t implemented a solution to the fact of everybody is using masks and FaceID fails to recognize us. I think it would be as easy as release an updated iOS which allows 2 FaceID profiles for a person: one with mask and the other without it.

Actually I have already edited my last comment to make clear my sarcasm.
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Masked Face ID profiles are not at all secure. Not enough data points to work with.
 
iGüey said:
Well my friend, that’s the challenge: to Apple make it secure.
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you miss the point. lots of people look alike if all you can see is their eyes. There’s no way to make it secure with existing hardware that can’t sense through the mask.
 
cmaier said:
you miss the point. lots of people look alike if all you can see is their eyes. There’s no way to make it secure with existing hardware that can’t sense through the mask.
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Apple is missing the opportunity to develop the iMask then!

Isn’t it possible to unlock from watch though? Or is that just the iMac and MB/MBP?
 
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“With the knowledge that Apple licenses technologies that it cannot design itself, such as Arm architectural technologies and CPU cores”

Apple patently does not licence CPU cores from anyone. Their CPU cores are designed by Apple.

Apple licences the arm64 instruction set. Not the CPU designs, at all.
 
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