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All this is because treasury rate yields have been dropping. This is where banks get interest for short term fund accounts and then choose to pay the bulk of the rate they get to account holders.

You can always get treasuries yourself directly and cut out the middleman.

Exactly. They're front-running expected rate cuts which mostly affect short term treasuries, and like other HYSA products, you would generally expect them to lead on cutting rates as short term treasury yield to maturity declines and lag on raising their yields when short term rates are increasing (see also, gas stations setting fuel prices as a function of expected oil prices).

If you have a brokerage account, like you said, it's very easy to cut out the middleman and buy your own treasuries. You also get a consistently better rate, exemption from state income taxes, and less duration risk (i.e. you buy them at a rate with some duration, which you will get if held to maturity). You can sell before maturity if you need liquidity, and you'll likely have available funds at least as soon as you would from a HYSA ACH transfer (and maybe sooner with brokerage/checking at the same bank).

Also, treasuries are great when you have a large expense that you've saved for but isn't here yet (e.g., tuition, property tax, insurance premiums). Buy a maturity a few days before the due date, earn interest, and pay for the planned expense when it's due.
 
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Minimum balance requirements and other conditions vary per account.
Glad to see this, though, as the comparison is to Apple Savings which has no minimum balance requirements, it’d be good to see the list separated between those with and without minimum balances. Don’t have to capture what the balances are just if they’re NOT zero like Apple’s.
 
This unfortunately doesn't keep up with inflation :(.

You pretty much have to invest money to stay afloat.
Yup. The US Dollar is designed to lose money over time. This is why the Lower and Middle Class get crushed. You need to own assets to increase your purchasing power. If you only own dollars, you lose purchasing power. Everyone needs Bitcoin, they just don't know it yet.
 
Yup. The US Dollar is designed to lose money over time. This is why the Lower and Middle Class get crushed. You need to own assets to increase your purchasing power. If you only own dollars, you lose purchasing power. Everyone needs Bitcoin, they just don't know it yet.

This is really financially ignorant. Real wages (you know, adjusted for inflation) and purchasing power have increased over time in the US. Period. Also, yes, storing dollars under your mattress will cause you to lose purchasing power over time but simply buying risk-free treasuries basically eliminates that issue. You can't have dollars and also have an inability to invest them, they're both assets lol.

Also, replace "bitcoin" with the word "gold". Goldbugs have been around forever and it seems you're just a somewhat high-tech version of that. There's nothing magic about non-yield-generating assets that are valued based on perceived scarcity - they could be an OK place to park some money and you'll feel like a genius sometimes but they can also lose value rapidly for any number of reasons.
 
Bank of America has the same ridiculous .01%. I keep a few bucks in there for emergencies, but why anybody uses Chase or BofA for savings is beyond me.
Yeah, both of my US Bank savings accounts have terrible interest rates as well

Because of that, I'm in the process of moving those away from the one I do checking with (US Bank) to Barclays and their tiered savings account

They have a much better starting rate at 4.15% APY
 
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Still 375 times higher than the rate at Chase. I don’t like to see the rates dropping, but Apple Savings is an easy place to park my cash back rewards so I’ll stick with it for now.
Oh, same here

Much better than the abysmal rate I have with US Bank

Because of how bad those are, I'm in the process of moving those over to Barclays, who has much better rate of 4.15% APY with their tiered savings accounts
 
This is really financially ignorant. Real wages (you know, adjusted for inflation) and purchasing power have increased over time in the US. Period. Also, yes, storing dollars under your mattress will cause you to lose purchasing power over time but simply buying risk-free treasuries basically eliminates that issue. You can't have dollars and also have an inability to invest them, they're both assets lol.

Also, replace "bitcoin" with the word "gold". Goldbugs have been around forever and it seems you're just a somewhat high-tech version of that. There's nothing magic about non-yield-generating assets that are valued based on perceived scarcity - they could be an OK place to park some money and you'll feel like a genius sometimes but they can also lose value rapidly for any number of reasons.
Wages have increased but not kept up with real inflation. Just look how many dual income families are struggling. The CPI inflation they tell you is not real inflation (that number is manipulated).

That wasn't my point though.

You need to own assets because our fiat world economic system is broken. This money backed by nothing scheme has only been going on since 1971. Before that, things like gold were used as currency or backed the local currency. Now the US government can literally print the dollars we use. Imagine working hard for something another man can print for free. Bitcoin is an asset that will increase its purchasing power over time, and can be sued to exchange value peer-to-peer. Also it is backed by one of the largest computer networks, physics, math, and energy. It costs energy to make Bitcoin, like you use energy to make money at your job.

The US Government is looking to buy Bitcoin. Other nations have already started. Blackrock (largest asset holder in the world) is telling people to buy Bitcoin. Don't get left behind. It's hard to wrap your head around the concept of Bitcoin initially, but trust me, once it clicks, you'll get it.
 
Still 375 times higher than the rate at Chase. I don’t like to see the rates dropping, but Apple Savings is an easy place to park my cash back rewards so I’ll stick with it for now.
Capital One is 4.35%. Really easy to use. A go-to place for top level interest rates.
 
Still 375 times higher than the rate at Chase. I don’t like to see the rates dropping, but Apple Savings is an easy place to park my cash back rewards so I’ll stick with it for now.
You're not wrong, but does that say more about how terrible Chase's yield is or that this is good?

0.25% below Wealthfront and Betterment which are literally free and take 5 min to open/link/fund (and Wealthfront pays from deposit initiation, not settlement) and are also not connected to a credit card product (which should ostensibly help boost the profit for Goldman here...) is not very competitive.
 
This is really financially ignorant. Real wages (you know, adjusted for inflation) and purchasing power have increased over time in the US. Period. Also, yes, storing dollars under your mattress will cause you to lose purchasing power over time but simply buying risk-free treasuries basically eliminates that issue. You can't have dollars and also have an inability to invest them, they're both assets lol.

Also, replace "bitcoin" with the word "gold". Goldbugs have been around forever and it seems you're just a somewhat high-tech version of that. There's nothing magic about non-yield-generating assets that are valued based on perceived scarcity - they could be an OK place to park some money and you'll feel like a genius sometimes but they can also lose value rapidly for any number of reasons.
Which is why Trump Admin wants to create a national crypto reserve... that'll artificially sustain demand for lackluster bitcoins of all kinds. Think this will create a lot of distortions in the bitcoin space. I'm def not a fan!
 
Wages have increased but not kept up with real inflation. Just look how many dual income families are struggling. The CPI inflation they tell you is not real inflation (that number is manipulated).

That wasn't my point though.

You need to own assets because our fiat world economic system is broken. This money backed by nothing scheme has only been going on since 1971. Before that, things like gold were used as currency or backed the local currency. Now the US government can literally print the dollars we use. Imagine working hard for something another man can print for free. Bitcoin is an asset that will increase its purchasing power over time, and can be sued to exchange value peer-to-peer. Also it is backed by one of the largest computer networks, physics, math, and energy. It costs energy to make Bitcoin, like you use energy to make money at your job.

The US Government is looking to buy Bitcoin. Other nations have already started. Blackrock (largest asset holder in the world) is telling people to buy Bitcoin. Don't get left behind. It's hard to wrap your head around the concept of Bitcoin initially, but trust me, once it clicks, you'll get it.

Hook, line, and sinker.
 
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Capital One is 4.35%. Really easy to use. A go-to place for top level interest rates.
I have a Cap One account. My "360 Performance Savings" is only 3.70%. It used to be slightly higher than the Apple savings account, but the difference in rates was so small that the time I spent thinking about it was more expensive than the gains I'd realize by moving my paltry balance. Now the rate is actually less and I made more money by not moving it. Which adds up to a happy meal this month :D
 
Capital One is 4.35%. Really easy to use. A go-to place for top level interest rates.
Are you sure your CapitalOne account hasn't been dipping down, all quiet-like? Without announcing it? 'Cause my 360 Performance Savings sure has. It used to be 4.35%, but it's currently 3.7%.

If you have a different CapOne account I'd sure like to know about it.
 
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Are you sure your CapitalOne account hasn't been dipping down, all quiet-like? Without announcing it? 'Cause my 360 Performance Savings sure has. It used to be 4.35%, but it's currently 3.7%.

If you have a different CapOne account I'd sure like to know about it.
Oh man! You are right, it dropped.
 
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I have a Cap One account. My "360 Performance Savings" is only 3.70%.
I figured I'd follow up and announce that this is now 3.60%. So kudos to Apple on this; they announced the reduction out loud and upfront. I've never received notice from the other banks I use and my Capital One account has dropped several times without so much as a peep.
 
I figured I'd follow up and announce that this is now 3.60%. So kudos to Apple on this; they announced the reduction out loud and upfront. I've never received notice from the other banks I use and my Capital One account has dropped several times without so much as a peep.
You’re right and not a peep from Capital One. PayPal is still at 4.00%.
 
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