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Why does everyone keep talking about Airplay going away? I see it mentioned nowhere in the article? It's not like you needed an Airport router for it...
 
Just like they've streamlined their product design, in the coming years, there will be nothing beyond: iPhones, MacBooks, iPads (maybe), and online services. It was products like the Airport base stations, monitors, and other products that really rounded-out the whole Apple experience for me. Everything worked together as a cohesive system. While my Dell monitor has a beautiful display (4K), its industrial design is crappy at best and the interface with my MBP is clunky/awkward compared to how my old Apple Cinema Display used to interface with my MacPros/MBPs (10 years ago!). I'm not a huge fan of this brave new world.

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Part of what makes Apple appealing to consumers is the "it just works" philosophy, and part of what makes "it just works" work is the broad ecosystem of Apple products that support the cash cows, including the Airport lineup.

Well said - exactly!
 
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Shame they're stopping working on this, but no real surprise.

The AirPort routers have been the most stable and fastest wireless access points I've used. I have 2 of them running my network here (only as access points, have a pfsense box handling routing). They can push 600mbps, and they've never missed a beat. Considering they're 3 years old now, its impressive how they still outperform current models around the same price bracket, and even some more expensive ones.

If you use them as an actual router, then the wan->lan throughput rate isn't great. Only really a problem if you have an internet connection >200mbps and use it as your main router. As a wireless access point at this price they're still unbeatable.
 
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I've moved on from Apple wifi routers. But this is an odd thing for a company that has fingers in the IoT world. What is the Apple experience of the future? I am increasingly confused about where this company is going. But maybe the reveal is coming. IDK.
 
Dear Steve! When you decided to give the whole power to the strange designer and that silent guy, did you expect such thing to happen? What would you say if you only knew?..

What if Jobs didn't care if Apple lost direction without him? After all, it would make him look better in retrospect. Even Jobs telling Cook not to ask himself what Jobs would do, seems to support the idea.

For that matter, why put anyone like Cook in charge? Didn't Jobs rail against how a multi-SKU, profit oriented scenario nearly destroyed Apple the first time? Why not put someone who had lots of imagination in charge? (Which would leave out Ive, obviously.)

The reason why Apple did so well, was because Jobs was the ultimate demanding naive user... someone with no programming experience and no real technical knowledge... but with absolute authority. This allowed him to demand things that most normal managers would consider to be impossible or impractical to do.

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I keep half-jokingly suggesting that Apple would be better off to randomly pick an original fervent Apple fan from a website like this, someone with similar personal taste as Jobs, and give them the same absolute authority, backed up by billions of dollars and a good management team.

In other words, let an Apple fan explain and dictate to those execs what it was that made them a repeat customer and a fan to begin with. Someone who still has an appreciation of things that "just work".
 
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I'm kinda sad. Apple has always said they weren't interested in selling the "most" of any product but instead the "BEST" of a product. Now it looks like they are just concentrating on producing what "SELLS": the best.
As an Apple stock holder I understand, but as an Apple fan and BELIEVER, I am truly sad at what looks like the direction this company is going in after the death of a genius. :(:(:(:apple:
 
What's going on? Is Apple deliberately trying to piss off customers? The convenient MagSafe is gone, SD card slot gone, headphone jack gone, optical SPDIF on 4th Apple TV gone.

Next things to kill: OTA Time Capsule backups and AirPlay... oh c'mon Apple. My sympathy is shrinking!

The reason why many loyal customers like(d) Apple was the huge convenience factor and reliability within a smart ecosystem.

Supplementary products such as AirPort Time Capsule, the 3rd gen Apple TV, and the Apple Thunderbolt Display surely didn't generate a lot of revenue, but completed the unique Apple experience at home and in the office. If you didn't want to fiddle around with 3rd party support and drivers (like in the PC world), you just bought everything from Apple, and you knew that everything would work smoothly – because it was Apple.

But now things are changing, the convenience factor has been significantly disturbed with the latest #donglelife backlash and ugly LG monitors on top of that. Not to mention the never-the-same Space Gray (gone Jet Black) color-rama-drama.

I beginn to miss a central theme – a leitmotif – across the latest Apple products. The harmony is falling apart. While e.g. Microsoft is currently hard working on just that: unification. Be careful Apple... Nokia was once big too! Don't let the bean counters kill the company we used to love.

This analysis is spot on. I use Apple products because they create a complete user experience. Not all products can generate direct revenue, however, they form part of the ecosystem. In my view, this is Apple's edge. Now, they're losing it...
 
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I think it's just a matter of time before you see Pages, Keynote and Numbers given up.
Good! I haven't used those in years. The new Office is way better than it used to be.
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This analysis is spot on. I use Apple products because they create a complete user experience. Not all products can generate direct revenue, however, they form part of the ecosystem. In my view, this is Apple's edge. Now, they're losing it...

They lost the edge when they shifted to Intel. The only real thing separating Apple from the rest was software and overpriced "Apple Approved" components.
 
Wow, this stinks! I've dealt with plenty of router alternatives, and AirPort is by far more superior. And you don't have to hide them, since they're beautiful. ****.

It also bothers me that little by little the echo system is falling apart. First the monitors, now the routers - not mentioning their declining focus of professional software. I enjoyed having a full Apple environment because it all worked really well together. This smells like a shift in the wrong direction prioritizing revenue and profit over the customer experience.
 
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Not surprising. I suspected this was going to happen. That's why, just 3 days ago, I finally upgraded my AirPort Extreme 802.11n (5th gen) to a Linksys WRT1900ACS. Was on sale for $50 off.

Thinking about getting rid of the Mac mini too, and just keeping a MacBook or MacBook Pro as the only device for macOS exposure.
 
What's going on? Is Apple deliberately trying to piss off customers? The convenient MagSafe is gone, SD card slot gone, headphone jack gone, optical SPDIF on 4th Apple TV gone.

Next things to kill: OTA Time Capsule backups and AirPlay... oh c'mon Apple. My sympathy is shrinking!

The reason why many loyal customers like(d) Apple was the huge convenience factor and reliability within a smart ecosystem.

Supplementary products such as AirPort Time Capsule, the 3rd gen Apple TV, and the Apple Thunderbolt Display surely didn't generate a lot of revenue, but completed the unique Apple experience at home and in the office. If you didn't want to fiddle around with 3rd party support and drivers (like in the PC world), you just bought everything from Apple, and you knew that everything would work smoothly – because it was Apple.

But now things are changing, the convenience factor has been significantly disturbed with the latest #donglelife backlash and ugly LG monitors on top of that. Not to mention the never-the-same Space Gray (gone Jet Black) color-rama-drama.

I beginn to miss a central theme – a leitmotif – across the latest Apple products. The harmony is falling apart. While e.g. Microsoft is currently hard working on just that: unification. Be careful Apple... Nokia was once big too! Don't let the bean counters kill the company we used to love.

i'd like to think they're working on homekit devices. perhaps that rumored dedicated siri device could act as an airport router as well. why would you buy an airport and as well as a siri device when they could act as one?
 
I currently use airport express units to send music around my house. What product can I use to do this once those are gone?
 
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(que somber mood)

First they came for the headphone jack, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not use headphones.


Then they came for the MacBook Pro ports, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not use ports.

Then they came for the battery life, and I did not speak out—
Because I work at home.

Then they came for the AirPort—and there was no Apple left over for me.
 
What are the 100 000+ employees at Apple doing. Last few years:

iPhone = last 3 iterations look the same. Inserted some better parts such as the camera (made by others). oh yah, the hard work and courage to remove a port.
iwatch 2 = looks the same. Its actually thicker (I guess it took a lot of employees to put a GPS in it)
watch straps = This department is doing great. They should get a raise
Monitors = after years of wait. Gets Killed. Just not enough employees to make a frame and stick someone elses panel in it.
Desktops = after years of wait...Desktops, what are those.
laptops = after years of wait, we get the emoji touchbar and amazing thinness that doesn't allow 32GB of Ram
airport = Its just too tiring for the one person that this employed. It just needs to go
Apple Car = Spend billions in resources and then find out. no, we don't want to build a car. disband team

So Really... What has a hundred thousand employees been doing the past few years? Hello. The Mac Pro is over a thousand days old with pricing as if it were introduced yesterday. The Mac ecosystem is being destroyed piece by piece.

Even if we don't buy that particular product, the message being sent is be prepared that we will drop "the product you care for" on a whim. They are breaking trust with everyone.

I've been waiting to upgrade all our companies MacPros for an eternity. Now, I'm just not sure if this is the smart choice anymore even if they do release a new Mac Pro. I am truly shocked at how poor this company is being run right now.
 
Too expensive for most people, and MESH is still new technology, never wise to spend that kind of money on a first generation product.

Mesh networks are not new, they are probably new in the low-end market. Deployed a Cisco variety of it in our company in 2010, if I remember correctly - and the previous generation of their mesh WiFi equipment was reaching EOL by that time - so the technology is quite old.
 
For those concerned about the loss of OTA Time Machine backups, I recommend getting a NAS that supports that function along with the many other functions that it can perform on your network.

Again, this is not surprising at all to me. Tim Cook is an operational individual. He excels at maximizing operations and making them as efficient as possible. The end result (and probably desire/goal) being the savings of expenses. He is an accountant's wet dream.
 
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Things are just going from bad to worse. Is there any good news about Apple products?

Maybe over-priced and out-dated Macs, vanishing peripherals and dongle hell are all part of Cook's grand plan to kill the Mac.
 
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So basically everyting that is accounted for less than 5% of their revenues is going for the chop...

Next in line: Mac Mini and MacPro
And, of course, all software.

Tim: "why are we making iWork?"
Phil: "so that our customers can use these apps on all the devices they love for free."
Tim: "doesn't Microsoft do that?"
Phil: "errr.... you mean Office 365?"
Tim: "That's it! Kill iWork immediately! Shareholders were asking about the revenue and margin on these products"
 
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After seeing the Microsoft Surface I hope they up their game on the iMac and not get rid of that too!
 
Can one explain the logic of simple wireless router device that works perfectly with Apple products get abandoned for a dumb Apple Car that only a rich ****** will be the only driving. I guess Apple soon going to force everyone to sign up to a data plan probably one of their own.
 
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