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In my new home, I purchased Ubiquiti’s kit: security gateway, switch and AP, and they seem to do the job superbly. Performance is excellent, and I can’t massively fault it to be honest. Costs a lot though, but it is enterprise equipment that I’m using.

Hi! nice setup!

You could have got the edgerouter x for 50$ instead of the security gateway. The minimal kit is an edgerouterx + AP which leaves you 3 gigabit LAN ports. You can also hookup a normal switch (to save money) to one of these ports. They have quality products, I will probably buy an Ubiquiti switch so I can see stats from the web interface.

Enjoy
 
In my new home, I purchased Ubiquiti’s kit: security gateway, switch and AP, and they seem to do the job superbly. Performance is excellent, and I can’t massively fault it to be honest. Costs a lot though, but it is enterprise equipment that I’m using.
How do the UniFi APs handle power outages - do they store settings in a lithium battery or EEPROM, or would you need to reconfigure each one if power is lost?

I really wanted to use UniFis with my PoE switch, but pure copper Cat5e was expensive (I was worried about the fire risk from copper-clad aluminum) and there are some rooms where the space between the drywall and studs is too tight to wallfish anything. So I ended up getting a kit from coaxifi.com, connecting my DIR-880L to their impedance converters and running Wi-Fi over the RG6 coaxial cabling that's already in the walls. In the rooms where I had crawl space or attic access, I installed Wi-Fi ceiling antennas. It cost around $30 for the Coaxifi gear, and I found some Wi-Fi ceiling antennas for $15 each. On the cable outlet for one room, I substituted a panel antenna (like the kind FPV drones use) for Coaxifi's antenna. But it's only about $30 base for 4 rooms when you have an old router on hand with detachable antennas.
 
How do the UniFi APs handle power outages - do they store settings in a lithium battery or EEPROM, or would you need to reconfigure each one if power is lost?

The power-on sequence for UAP is :
  1. Read settings from internal memory
  2. if that fails, connect to the software or hardware controller (which can mirror your config to the cloud)
  3. if that fails, revert to default settings.
 
Hi! nice setup!

You could have got the edgerouter x for 50$ instead of the security gateway. The minimal kit is an edgerouterx + AP which leaves you 3 gigabit LAN ports. You can also hookup a normal switch (to save money) to one of these ports. They have quality products, I will probably buy an Ubiquiti switch so I can see stats from the web interface.

Enjoy

I'm considering doing that, though I do like being able to see the stats (useful when I can see who's hogging everything in my house which I share with a few people).
 
I'm considering doing that, though I do like being able to see the stats (useful when I can see who's hogging everything in my house which I share with a few people).

The stats that interest you are in the controller, you can either install it on a PC/VM or get the cloud key. If you look at the video around 8:29, you will see the stats view.


cheers
 
Oh well. Existing TC purchase tomorrow!

I was also disappointed in no new wireless APs. I'd love a newer Time Capsule, but speaking personally, I just can't see the value in buying into a soon-to-be EOL device that is still priced at a premium and yet no longer performs at a premium level.

I also expect that Time Machine backups are going to be very different "soon" due to APFS. ("Soon" might take as much as another year for the next version of macOS, but well within the life of any new TC I were to buy.)

I'd consider one if Apple were to slash the price, but that's not very Apple-like and I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.
 
I was also disappointed in no new wireless APs. I'd love a newer Time Capsule, but speaking personally, I just can't see the value in buying into a soon-to-be EOL device that is still priced at a premium and yet no longer performs at a premium level.

I also expect that Time Machine backups are going to be very different "soon" due to APFS. ("Soon" might take as much as another year for the next version of macOS, but well within the life of any new TC I were to buy.)

I'd consider one if Apple were to slash the price, but that's not very Apple-like and I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.

it's sad to see the lack of upgrades regarding their router line. If you really need one (AE or TC), you could buy the Ubiquiti EdgerouterX (49$).

It gives you a full gigabit (all 5 ports), ios, android & web app. Then you change the Apple device to be in BRIDGE mode instead of router. That way you have a modern router and use the apple device in AccessPoint mode. It's a 5 min config. I'm running this setup right now but will update soon to 2x Ubiquiti AP.
 
it's sad to see the lack of upgrades regarding their router line. If you really need one (AE or TC), you could buy the Ubiquiti EdgerouterX (49$).

It gives you a full gigabit (all 5 ports), ios, android & web app. Then you change the Apple device to be in BRIDGE mode instead of router. That way you have a modern router and use the apple device in AccessPoint mode. It's a 5 min config. I'm running this setup right now but will update soon to 2x Ubiquiti AP.

Thanks for the suggestion. While I could use an improvement in routing performance, it would be more for future proofing than something I critically need right now. I actually could use better wireless range right now though - my current 2008-era Time Capsule's wireless range just isn't cutting it in my latest home.

I've heard lots of great things about Ubiquiti from enthusiasts. Do you have any specific recommendations on their APs? I'm wondering whether the long-range UAP-AC-LR might give me the range I need, or whether I need to suck it up and try one of the expensive mesh router options.
 
Well I just got two TCs (640 euros - ouch), but all working well, very happy even though are are not the latest tech. Just hope they support them for as long as they have the previous models.
 
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Thanks for the suggestion. While I could use an improvement in routing performance, it would be more for future proofing than something I critically need right now. I actually could use better wireless range right now though - my current 2008-era Time Capsule's wireless range just isn't cutting it in my latest home.

I've heard lots of great things about Ubiquiti from enthusiasts. Do you have any specific recommendations on their APs? I'm wondering whether the long-range UAP-AC-LR might give me the range I need, or whether I need to suck it up and try one of the expensive mesh router options.

Whatever wireless solution you take, I would recommend to have at least 2 devices, even if it's the AC-LR product. The differerence is that with the AC-LR access point, both devices need to be wired to the network but it will give you better performance. Using a mesh network, you can have a full strong connection to the mesh router but the signal strength between the the mesh devices may not optimal and will be degraded. I already have several wired ethernet cable in most rooms, so I have several spots where I can use the AC-LR access point.

Notice:
when you shop wireless router or access point, be careful about the speed. Ubiquiti devices are not listed in the same way the competition does it. With other brand you often see AC900, AC1300, AC1900, AC3100, AC4000 and you compare the devices with those numbers.

When you look at the specs of Ubiquiti's devices, you will see a 2.4 and a 5ghz bandwidth number. The AC-LR is :
2.4ghz: 450Mbps
5: 867Mbps

If you add them up, it will give you 1317, which will now tell you that it is an AC1300 (if you need to compare to the other brands). The PRO or EDU modem is 450+1300 which is around an AC1900.

When you see AC3000 (and up) devices, it's often TWO distinct 5ghz network + the speed of the 2.4ghz.

The 5ghz network is really fast but not as wide as the 2.4ghz network. When you only have one wireless router (or access point), you will often be located outside and fall on the slower 2.4ghz band (which will sucks). Having multiple devices in your home/appartment will ensure you will be in the reach of the speedier 5ghz network.

If you need to check your current performance, you can use the OPTION key (mac keyboard)+ click the Wireless icon in the MAC toolbar, it will show you detailed information about the connection speed. It will tell you if you connected to the 2.4 band or 5ghz + the speed. If you have a macbook, you can move from room to room and inspect your coverage. If you manage to always connect to the 5ghz band with some decent speed, you have nothing to change..

Cheers
 
Hi all, sorry to bring this thread to life again after some months of silence.

I have not sifted trough the numerous chit chat in the thread...

Is there any possibility that the whole AirPort concept would have been baked in the new HomePod? I have no idea if this would make sense, if the competitors do it, but I simply think it would be utterly idiotic of Apple to discontinue the whole idea of supplying this kind of basic stuff just for the sake of limited revenue or margin in comparison to the rest of the product line.
I mean, we could name other more relevant product choices to put on the discontinuation shelf, can’t we!

All things Apple are internet connected. Would they really abandon the impact on the connection to only sell network client aparatuses, period???
 
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Hi all, sorry to bring this thread to life again after some months of silence.

I have not sifted trough the numerous chit chat in the thread...

Is there any possibility that the whole AirPort concept would have been baked in the new HomePod? I have no idea if this would make sense, if the competitors do it, but I simply think it would be utterly idiotic of Apple to discontinue the whole idea of supplying this kind of basic stuff just for the sake of limited revenue or margin in comparison to the rest of the product line.
I mean, we could name other more relevant product choices to put on the discontinuation shelf, can’t we!

All things Apple are internet connected. Would they really abandon the impact on the connection to only sell network client aparatuses, period???
I think it's very unlikely. On the other hand, they might do that just to help keep people in the ecosystem. Maybe they'll even have a HomePod Capsule or something along those lines to take the place of the Time Capsule. Though, I expect the hard drive will be just as difficult to replace. My only real complaint about the Time Capsule is that the hard drive is rather difficult to replace, especially for the average home user - which is most of Apple's base, especially now.
 
I was upset initially - and remained upset for about a year - at the idea that they would abandon it. I have since moved on, though, and got a Linksys Velops. The only thing I miss is the USB connectivity, but I actually added my Extreme Base Station via ethernet cable and am using that for USB for now. You can also extend the network with the Time Capsule, if you like, I'm almost certain, and still retain that functionality.
 
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I'm personally still upset about it.
I think it's a space Apple should be in given how essentially all of their products connect to WiFi.

They don't have to have something for every user, but I really appreciated them having an entry in this market.
 
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The airport is overpriced, underpowered, and grossly under featured, especially with the dumbed down airport utility. Go buy a velop or eero and you get far far better coverage.
 
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I don’t recall Apple officially making any statement about this.

This, times a thousand.

Apple never actually ANNOUNCED that they were ceasing AirPort development. It's just a rumor based on some teams being reassigned within the company.

There hasn't been a major technology jump that makes updating the AirPort a pressing matter. It's still pretty much state-of-the-art. They've been releasing firmware updates to keep it secure. You can still walk into the store and buy one.

I think this doom and gloom isn't warranted until we hear Apple say "We're discontinuing AirPort products."
 
It’s be interesting to see Apple incorporate the technology into appletvs or HomePods for access points but they may need to engineer a strategy that a lot of other companies are implementing with mesh wireless. Ubiquiti is nice but not for everyone
 
This, times a thousand.

Apple never actually ANNOUNCED that they were ceasing AirPort development. It's just a rumor based on some teams being reassigned within the company.

There hasn't been a major technology jump that makes updating the AirPort a pressing matter. It's still pretty much state-of-the-art. They've been releasing firmware updates to keep it secure. You can still walk into the store and buy one.

I think this doom and gloom isn't warranted until we hear Apple say "We're discontinuing AirPort products."

State of what art? Exactly how do you recon it is cost competitive in 2018 at its price point with the subpar 4 year old hardware it contains.
 
State of what art? Exactly how do you recon it is cost competitive in 2018 at its price point with the subpar 4 year old hardware it contains.

this. state of the art would be a mesh setup or something like that. with time machine or some time machine cloud built in, airplay 2(!), caching features and so on!
 
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