Apple Cellphone, Media Hub and Business Models

[nagromme]

That only means that you don't know much about Mossberg's relationship with Apple. There is no way that he published this without Apple's blessing.

I'd be interested to know how YOU have knowledge of Mossberg's secret directives from Cupertino 😀 😛

I'm sure he has sources. I don't believe he has hard facts though.

 

[IJ Reilly]

That only means that you don't know much about Mossberg's relationship with Apple. There is no way that he published this without Apple's blessing.

Really? Tell us more!

 

[puuukeey]

BS. it's more than possible to have a stable full featured system and not shut out you're developers.

 

[AidenShaw]

** BS alert **

And Windows Mobile has almost no relation to Windows (except for the name).

Sorry, but my "BS Alert" box just lit up the room.

Windows Mobile has no relation to Windows, except for the *fact* than most Windows applications can be recompiled for Windows Mobile without major modifications. That also means that any good Windows programmer will feel right at home in Windows Mobile. (Not to mention that the MS Visual Studio can cross-compile apps for Windows Mobile...)

And that's HUGE.

Nokia was playing with Linux probably that is the only other alternative.

So far, Linux is only showing up in "not very smart" phones.

The apps and tools aren't there to make it a real contender, and there's nobody willing to sink tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to make it happen.

 

[budugu]

Sorry, but my "BS Alert" box just lit up the room.

Windows Mobile has no relation to Windows, except for the *fact* than most Windows applications can be recompiled for Windows Mobile without major modifications. That also means that any good Windows programmer will feel right at home in Windows Mobile. (Not to mention that the MS Visual Studio can cross-compile apps for Windows Mobile...)

It is like saying all OSes that GCC can run have a lot in common! Because why? You can freaking recompile your C code for any OS/Platform. 😱

 

[AidenShaw]

It is like saying all OSes that GCC can run have a lot in common! Because why? You can freaking recompile your C code for any OS/Platform. 😱

You haven't actually done any significant programming, have you?

What you say is correct for a trivial "Hello World" terminal application.

If you have a windowing application, with GUI and forms and buttons and other widgets, most of your code is dealing with specific APIs to popup a window, deal with the buttons and text fields that the user enters, giving feedback and error popups, ...

Those application APIs are completely outside of the language - they're part of the OS framework.

And it is exactly those APIs that are similar (or exactly the same) between Windows and Windows CE. The same code in your program that deals with mouse input on a Windows PC works with a touch screen on Windows Mobile. The OS framework deals with lighting the appropriate pixels on the screen, and it doesn't matter to your program whether you click a mouse or touch the screen with your fingernail.

Your post is one of the more ignorant ones in recent memory.

 

[bikertwin]

1. Yes, I think Mossberg is very biased.
2. Yes, he probably has inside information (wasn't it the WSJ that broke the switch-to-Intel story last year?)
3. Yes, Apple should make an iPhone
4. The iPhone should be SIMPLE above ALL ELSE!
5. If Apple does make a PDA-type thingie, it should be much larger than a phone, have at least an 800-pixel if not 1024-pixel-wide screen (to browse web pages without scrolling) and be OS X based.

Apple's forte is simplicity. I don't want an overly complicated phone. I want it simple. Easy.

Heck, Apple should bring their simplicity to a lot of other markets. Adobe has great technology but a terrible user interface. Even my Alpine car stereo has great technology but a terrible user interface; I only bought it because it sounds great and has a great iPod hookup (which, by the way, an iPhone should have, too--an iPod dock port). It's definitely not easy to use when you're driving in traffic or at 70 miles per hour. 😱 I mean does your car stereo really need to display the bitrate of the current snippet of song? (I use variable bitrate for my MP3 compression).