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Read again.. I said "spoken and spun LIKE a Lib"... Don't read so fast..I'm an Independent. Want to try again?
then make it the same thickness. not thinner.
if you remember the iPhone 5, it had probably the worst smartphone battery life i've ever experienced. at the end of everyday, without fail, I would reach 20% even if I was home the entire time and not using the iPhone all that much. most of the time it would reach 0% when I'm out for the day.
Read again.. I said "spoken and spun LIKE a Lib"... Don't read so fast..
Chuckle - I focused on the BS
See? So easy! They = Bad, We = Good. And why are they bad? Because they are Not Good. Good stomps out Bad! Let's swiftly bring Democracy and Freedom to them!
Also, it has always worked, right? What could ever go wrong...
Us going overseas and shooting anyone who even looks at us funny couldn't possibly create insurgents? Have you heard of ISIS? It is a fact that they are a direct result of our invasion of Iraq. As a matter if history, every time we try to fix the middle east with troops, we end up worse than we are. That is great that you "don't care what the world thinks" but what if the rest of the world decided to embargo the US because of our actions? What about honoring the spirit of our founders rather than what they fought against? It really comes down to a choice, we can be afraid, or we can hold to our values and be defiant, I would rather be defiant and be who we have been over history than to let the terrorist win the war of ideals. I guess you can call that "liberal" but better "liberal" than facist right?
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Im guessing you meant "fascist"?
As for me, I'd rather stand up for human rights anywhere in the world they're not be fought for. These terrorist and subhuman vermin that pour acid on their women if they don't submit to their male masters and all the rest of the atrocities committed in the name of Allah should be hunted down and eradicated from the planet like a plague. The US is the only country in the world with the commitment to treasure human rights and fight for them at all costs. It's exactly what our forefathers would have expected of us.
What are you talking about? Who cares if they have democracy I don't give a damn what they have. I care about the fact that they, either actively, or passively, are attempting to establish a theocratic dictatorship across the world. Yes, that makes them bad. We are not trying to do that. Yes that makes us 'good'. And the actions which I am we should take have not been taken since the mid 40's. And yes it did work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_in_Europe_Day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day
And you ask what ever could go wrong? I point you in the direction of the present and continually degrading state of the developed world, and say, "Whatever did go wrong?"
I never said that. I said bomb the hell our of anyone who we could rationally consider is an objective threat. Even if it did create more insurgents, which it may in the short run then bomb the hell our of them too, what's the big deal? And as soon as the rest of them finally saw that the united States was finally serious about defending itself, then they would stop. Simple. And again, even if they didn't stop, smash them too. Then they'll stop.
Regardless of whether or not we should have invaded Iraq, the fact is that they are a direct result of our unwillingness to finish anything we start. The primary movers in this scenario, as far as funding, and spreading of ideology are Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We've done nothing to address the threats they pose to us. In fact we just cut a deal with the Iranian regime to let them do whatever the hell they want, so long as they audit themselves to make sure they're not doing anything that might be considered hostile to us.
Not only are we not crushing them, we're granting them legitimacy by even talking to them about the issue, and pretending it's legitimate to even acknowledge the views of these thugs, much less negotiate with them.
Right. Because we refuse to stand up for ourselves. It's not our job to fix them. It's our job to protect ourselves from aggression. ANY aggression. By whatever means are necessary. Name one time we've crushed anything in the middle east. Every this we've gotten involved with that hell hole, it's always:
"Ohh we don't have a problem with religion,,, just a few radicalssss.... America loves the faith of Islammm, its teachings are gooood. Ohh we don't want to offend anyoneee, and we'd better not bomb that Mosque over there, where the enemy and all their weapons are being hiddennn, Ohh nooo we're just here for a couple radicalsssss."
The more we keep up that crap, and the less we assert our rights to exist free of coercion, the longer this will drag out, an the worse it will get. Just look at the state of the countries in Europe right now, and tell me that appeasement is the way to go.
So what? Name me one thing that they "give" us that we couldn't do ourselves, better, cheaper, or that we couldn't do without, or wouldn't rather live without if it meant that terrorism ended?
America built the world as it is today. The world wouldn't exist as it does today, with out its leadership, which was made possible by the freedoms and liberties which were fought for and afforded to us by our Founders. The rest of the world can go to hell if it wants, but it doesn't have a right to drag us down with it.
Our Founders fought against tyranny in every form. They fought for and supported Individual Rights and freedom. So do I.
Completely agreed, except I would replace 'defiant' with 'integrity'. Uncompromising integrity to the values which are conducive to human life and prosperity. And you're right that we should do that rather than let the terrorists win. Exactly right. We would have to let them win. Let them. The alternative remains; Stand up for ourselves, or pretend they don't exist, and die.
Idk what you mean by liberal or fascist here, the terms really apply I don't think... But if this country finally stood up for itself, and uncompromisingly upheld the principles which once made it great, I would call it objective, virtuous, and correct.
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"George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' "
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
I don't think they really are bent on "establishing a theocratic dictatorship". I think they are using religion as an excuse. Like so many others, including a good chunk of the USA.
I bet they think exactly the same.
Funny how there is this streak of remembrance among some americans - but they only cherrypick things and never contextualize or put into the whole narrative.
Care to read what Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has to say about the whole "continually degrading state of the developed world"? Hint: Americans haven't clean hands. At all.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/rfk-jr-why-arabs-dont-trust-america-213601
And? Nobody has clean hands so I fail to see your point.
[doublepost=1458490514][/doublepost]Back on topic....
With the 22nd fast approaching has anyone posting here changed your basic stance or opinion?
If anyone needs an recap, Verge has a great timeline http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/17/11036306/apple-fbi-iphone-encryption-backdoor-tim-cook
And? Nobody has clean hands so I fail to see your point.
Yeah, nobody has clean hands, but some have them dirtier than others, and it is nastily, dangerously cynical to be all self-righteous about it. They would surely also fail to see the point, while continuing to push theirs.
That's always the trouble. Literally all have "dirty hands" of some level and depending on the topic they are likely pardigmed to a critical degree.. The worst are zealots. Almost as bad are die hard opinionated politicos.