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There is no constitutional “right” regarding “censoring” by big tech.

Might want to brush up on what the first amendment says and means.

Nothing in there about big tech.
ummm.... where did he say it said "big tech" in the constitution?

sure, he said 'as is the right', but that could mean anything.

Might want to brush up on reading skills.
 
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It’s still all talk. Actions are where it’s at and Tim’s actions show he’s not ready to protect his customers privacy. Where is my choice to say Facebook can’t track me? He promised this now he’s delayed it? Come on Tim get your hands out of Google’s pockets and do something 🤦‍♂️
 
It’s still all talk. Actions are where it’s at and Tim’s actions show he’s not ready to protect his customers privacy. Where is my choice to say Facebook can’t track me? He promised this now he’s delayed it? Come on Tim get your hands out of Google’s pockets and do something 🤦‍♂️

Show us a source where Tim promised the Bolded in your post.

Also, pretty sure he isn’t invested into Google as you claim.
 
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This. I just downgraded my iCloud plan, moved my backups + photo library to local storage only, and used Cryptomator for end-to-end encryption (E2EE) for what files I have left in iCloud.

I just no longer feel comfortable having all of that data in iCloud without E2EE anymore. I’ve had enough of Facebook’s BS too, so I deleted my account today. I’ve had it disabled for a while now (have been afraid to get rid of it completely in case I needed for something), but I want Facebook to hurt for how immoral it is, and I don’t want them to have any more of my data either.

I’ve already made quite a few privacy switches over the years, but I guess my unplanned 2021 New Years resolution is to go all out with switching to privacy-focused software and services.
Apple will never do E2E encryption. They have too much pressure from governments not to do it. Everything you do online is tracked. A VPN can help a little bit but it doesn’t stop all of it.
 
Show us a source where Tim promised the Bolded in your post.

Also, pretty sure he isn’t invested into Google as you claim.
He announced this big feature where it gives users a choice not to be tracked. Go look it up yourself.

You’re correct he isn’t invested in Google. Google is invested in him by the tune of like $9 billion a year. If you don’t think $9 billion buys influence I’m not sure what world you’re living in.
 
He announced this big feature where it gives users a choice not to be tracked. Go look it up yourself.
Again, since you want to divert, you made a claim, I asked for a source, you not providing a source that also shows that you’re blatantly misleading others, you’re also violating the forum rules.

So, again, cite your source what Cook ‘promised’.
 
Again, since you want to divert, you made a claim, I asked for a source, you not providing a source that also shows that you’re blatantly misleading others, you’re also violating the forum rules.

So, again, cite your source what Cook ‘promised’.

Here’s an article saying it’s delayed. Are you really going to pretend you don’t know? Come on are we gonna play these silly forum games?
 
I'm going to make a somewhat controversial post here. Let me start by saying it was a beautiful speech by Cook and Apple is blessed to have him at the helm and I hope he stays in that position for years to come. However, can I get some help in determining if Cook is experiencing trembling during this 12minute speech to CPDP or whether it is a result of the low-resolution pixelation creating that affect?

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If you focus around the movement of Tim's hand movements and especially his thumbs during the video, it seems as if he is constantly changing posture and at any point that his hands are still and separated for a few seconds there is an apparent tremble visible. I take it a man of his position wouldn't get nervous to give these kind of speeches especially given how passionate he is on the topic. What's odd to me is that I couldn't find any higher resolution versions of this video when apple are known for their high quality video, even when it is an excerpt from a live stream they often release a version recorded with a higher-res camera for release purposes.

So my question to those more knowledgable and able to observe this video clearer than I can, is Tim Cook visibly trembling throughout this particular speech or is it a vestige of the low-res stream? Would trembling if it was the case to be so, suggest that Tim may be in poor health or could this be a case of nervousness of giving such a speech to a broad audience? With all due respect to Apple and Tim, thank you.
It could just be nerves. Tim always looks nervous up on the keynote stage. He seems great at knowing his strengths and leaves most of the talking at the keynotes to others, as opposed to Steve who did most of the talking himself.
 
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Here’s an article saying it’s delayed. Are you really going to pretend you don’t know? Come on are we gonna play these silly forum games?
Nothing you just posted in that BBC link has anything to do with what Tim Cook ‘promised’ or there of. So there again, you made a claim that was misleading and it’s against forum rules.

So other than that, if you could actually provide a legitimate source that Tim Cook blatantly ‘promised’, I’ll wait. Otherwise, you should probably retract your previous posts saying something that he never was quoted on.
 
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Fwiw, I don't think speech that endangers us or our country is protected speech.

We've always said that speech that incites harm is illegal. If a newspaper advocates for raiding the capital, they get shut down. That's normal, expected, and good.
 
Nothing you just posted in that BBC link has anything to do with what Tim Cook ‘promised’ or there of. So there again, you made a claim that was misleading and it’s against forum rules.

So other than that, if you could actually provide a legitimate source that Tim Cook blatantly ‘promised’, I’ll wait. Otherwise, you should probably retract your previous posts saying something that he never was quoted on.
Dude it's clear you're playing forum games. I figured that out when you practically quoted the forum rules. I've been trolled by similar accounts so IDC. Report it and my post gets deleted and you win the Internet? Dude everyone here knows about the privacy features that Apple promised so my original post isn't wrong. You're just trying to be a cyber bully and failing at it
 
Fwiw, I don't think speech that endangers us or our country is protected speech.

We've always said that speech that incites harm is illegal. If a newspaper advocates for raiding the capital, they get shut down. That's normal, expected, and good.
Have you been to Facebook?
 
everyone here knows about the privacy features that Apple promised so my original post isn't wrong.
I snipped your post intentionally, because I want you to focus on this main part above.

Take a hard read what you just posted (Compared to your original post), now it’s ‘Apple promised’, before that it was ‘Tim Cook promised’.

Tim Cook specifically never promised anything, and even when I asked you for a source multiple times, you threw some diverted-non-related BBC link at me thinking I wouldn’t read it. [Which I did.] And now you just want to backtrack by saying ‘Oh, actually it was ‘Apple promised’.

So, there again, when you post something with a specific quote from the CEO of Apple, post a link, and don’t get so defensive when somebody asks you for something that you quoted out of context. It’s not a good look for credibility.
 
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Apple don't take privacy seriously as there is a long list of changes they could make to their products to enhance privacy significantly. I agree that they're better than most competitors but we shouldn't forget that they'd drop any commitment to privacy in a heartbeat if it hurts their business (see: iCloud and iPhone in China).
It depends on how deep you want to take privacy. If we're talking about iCloud, there is no such thing as total privacy because Apple holds the encryption keys in the U.S. and holds the keys for China users in China so there is no absolute privacy from Apple and government mandates to release user data from either country. iPhone data is end to end encrypted so no one besides the two parties can intercept it without major hacking efforts including Apple, US and China government.
 
There will always be arguments from both sides. I’m not gonna sympathize with anyone. They all have agendas.
 
This is the first time I agree with Tim, beside the fact I still think that, anyway, one should resign from any position in a big company before giving political speeches. Conflict of interests is not admittable and, again, Tim, with this speech, proves that is subdued by his company interests even when he says something easy to agree to. For instance, he will never talk about these universal and noble concepts (human rights, privacy...) in China because, as CEO, he is worried mainly about sales in that country. The examples one could make to prove what I said are countless.

If Tim was really honest, he would add that freedom of expression is important as privacy. Social media should not censor anyone because this is the role of the judicial system and single people are responsible for what they write in their messages. If you are a publisher, it's another story, you are responsible for what is written in your newspaper and you may refuse some comments.

When big corporations want to take the role of politics, judicial systems, and the press, they are just preparing the field for the next hell.
 
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Last week I got the flu. Not COVID, I got a nucleic acid test to confirm. Before I got this test I was objectively scared about searching for hospitals / testing locations / symptoms in case I got a hazmat turn up at my door and haul me away.

Sure maybe these fears are unfounded, but this is fear of lack of privacy. Some may think serving tailored adverts is innocuous but it's the same tracking involved and can be exploited in the same way.
 
Did I miss the story where apple stopped watching what apps we had open and activly made it so people could not use littlesnitch to disable their ability to do so ?
 
Apple is preventing you from speaking?
Me? No.

However, Apple's reactionary move to remove an app like Parlor from their platform in the wake of the Capitol Siege and Riots is rather troubling. Why? Well, first of all, Parlor was considered a refuge for some on the right that deemed Twitter far too left in their policies towards conservatives while having no problem proactively halting the circulation of stories that might be detrimental to some on the other side of the aisle. The fact that the most visible social media platforms would not allow the dissemination of a story by one of America's oldest news outlets was alarming to not only those on the right. And the questions raised do at least deserve exploration.

Most illustrative of my point is this story from he WaPo confirming a hunch I had after Apple, Google, et. al decided to 86 Parlor that Facebook deflected blame towards their platforms (including Instagram) about planning for the Capitol Siege and Riots that occurred – mostly on their infrastructure. My initial reaction to this kerfuffle was that a conservative outpost seemed like a perfect scapegoat. I would reckon that most of the individuals that took part in the planning and executing of those dark acts likely were completely unaware of an app like Parlor.

It further reminded me of a quote by the late UNLV Basketball Head Coach, Jerry Tarkanian: "The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky they're going to give Cleveland State another year of probation.".

Bottom line: I've never used any of those apps outside of a curious peek but I'm certainly not afraid of viewpoints that may deviate from my own more mainstream beliefs as long as they aren't inciting what we saw on 1/6. Apple, Google, et. al has a right to kick whomever they want off their platform – I just wish they used more sound reasoning for doing so.
 
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While I appreciate Apple's stance on privacy, especially when compared to the likes of Google and Facebook, the arbitrary insertion of other polarizing, political issues, which couldn't be more different... well I could do without that.
you mean lobbying?

Yeah I feel NO company should be allowed to lobby for political reasons - muddles the waters so to speak on BOTH sides.
 
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