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It was a sad day indeed for many, many reasons.

As a CEO myself, trying to innovate and build a small company, it is unbelievably hard to make progress in this world. Steve needed Tim. And Jonny needed Steve.

Tim is ops manager, and brilliant at it. I know the struggle my Ops manager has and in many ways it's a far harder role than CEO / innovator.

Innovation is a mindset, and it's full of disappointments and dead ends, when ideas simply don't work, or the tech is not yet available. Or you are even simply wrong. Perhaps Steve's best work was Tim. Apple is still innovating, still standing behind it's products (most of the time) and I have no doubt we'll see more great things - hopefully Tesla done right.

My only sadness is there there are still many spaces Apple could work in, but don't - yet. There are some that they have left, which I don't think they should have. (servers)

And Apple has all the problems of being the size they are. That in itself, has to be a huge headache.

I hope that someday, the bits I am doing in my industry will also have a beneficial effect for mankind.
 
Yes... I would find a billion dollars terrifying. :rolleyes:

I don't believe for a single second Tim Cook cares at all about Steve Jobs. Job's name is simply a bullet point for him and I don't care how many memos he writes you'll never convince me otherwise.

Ive.. I believe 100%.
Ok. Nobody will convince that you can possibly know this as the truth.
 
I still remember the day it happened and all the mainstream media coverage on this. For a day, we were all in shock, sadness, and commemorating together a man whose genius and legacy doesn't come very often. No wars, crimes, viruses, or anything like that. No matter what your opinion about Steve and Apple were/are, no one could deny the impact he left on the world.
 
Reading though the comments as well as Tim’s memo, after a decade this is starting to sound more revisionist than accurate. I recall when Steve died and I’ve read these threads each year since.

Steve came back, saved Apple from itself, and set a course for massive success.

However, at what cost? Anyone who read Isaacson’s book knows at least something about what Steve inflicted on others, personally and professionally, while building various empires.

Remember him for what he was, a person. One with flaws just like any other. Don’t portray him solely as a hero, or solely as a villain. He was both depending on who you ask. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
 
Steve Jobs definitely chose the right man, Tim Cook, to succeed him. Apple continues on doing amazing & innovative things, and has become the most valuable company on earth under Tim Cook. This would never have happened with anyone else after Steve Jobs passing. Neither man is or was perfect, Steve Jobs had quite a few failures on his journey as well.
 
What makes you think that the value of the company wouldn't be the same or even higher with Steve still as the CEO? I mean, the curve was going rapidly up since Steve returned and saved Apple from bankruptcy?
Maybe it would be higher but based on Jobs' propensity to cannibalize Apple's older models for the latest, I think the revenue stream and overall market value would be lower. Did Apple even sell old model iPhones alongside the latest models 10 years ago? Jobs always kept the SKUs and choices to a minimum which makes for a good shopping experience but turns away some customers. When you base new product strategy and design on supply chain like Cook does, you end up saving lots of money and also making more money but you miss out on some opportunities to make a big splash with a revolutionary product. Also, it's not clear that Jobs was ever a fan of recurring services revenue so that $15 billion/quarter they are making now might not be part of Jobs' strategy at all.
 
Go away, Tim! Time to promote someone else with a product design focus to run the company. You built up the company piggy bank. Now let someone else use it to "Change the status quo." It's like this current leader has to keep reminding us of the loss in order to get the fan boys still curious.

I love these photos before Jony quit, as the looks on their faces spoke loudly about how different they were as people. Jony pointing out elements of his art as Cook looks on thinking about costs and silent nodding/grinning.

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"OK JONY. OK. NOW TELL ME HOW MANY I WILL BE ABLE TO SELL."
 
Reading though the comments as well as Tim’s memo, after a decade this is starting to sound more revisionist than accurate. I recall when Steve died and I’ve read these threads each year since.

Steve came back, saved Apple from itself, and set a course for massive success.

However, at what cost? Anyone who read Isaacson’s book knows at least something about what Steve inflicted on others, personally and professionally, while building various empires.

Remember him for what he was, a person. One with flaws just like any other. Don’t portray him solely as a hero, or solely as a villain. He was both depending on who you ask. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
According to many accounts and the book, there were two distinct Steve Jobs eras and the later, comeback Steve Jobs supposedly learned how to manage and inspire without being cruel. Still not perfect but it's not fair to completely attribute his style from 40 years ago with his style from 20 years ago.
 
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What makes you think that the value of the company wouldn't be the same or even higher with Steve still as the CEO? I mean, the curve was going rapidly up since Steve returned and saved Apple from bankruptcy?
Your conjecture is basically a “What if?” and is beyond dumb. Steve Jobs was a stubborn man and determined to heal himself naturally, which ended up in his death. Fact: Steve Jobs is long dead. “What if friendly aliens landed and shared their technology with everyone on earth?” - See how my own question is stupid as all ****? Tim Cook is doing a masterful job. Period.
 
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He managed to turn his "personal soapbox" in to the most valuable company (12x more valuable than Jobs' Apple). I'd like to see any other CEO do that.
I'm sure if Steve Jobs was still here, we would be having great innovations (like much better iPhones rather than the stupid incremental updates in the past few years, and we'll probably already have the Apple Car because Steve would push for its release (unlike Timmy who keeps delaying the Car (now delayed to ~2025)). These huge innovations would make Apple even more valuable - more than 12X more valuable.
 
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I'm sure if Steve Jobs was still here, we would be having great innovations (like much better iPhones rather than the stupid incremental updates in the past few years, and we'll probably already have the Apple Car because Steve would push for its release (unlike Timmy who keeps delaying the Car (now delayed to ~2025)). These huge innovations would make Apple even more valuable - more than 12X more valuable.
We can speculate all day but you need to distinguish between rumors and reality. There is no Apple Car delay because it has never been announced. If it was released on your timeline, (kind of like Siri was rush-released under Jobs) it would probably suffer from bugs, manufacturing issues and legislation roadblocks for autonomous driving just like most car makers are experiencing now due to things like chip shortages, failed promises of autonomous driving and infrastructure/charging network scarcity. Just because you and I want to drive an Apple Car does not make it a good product. Steve Jobs would be the first to tell you that.
 
I remember the moment his death was reported by the news. I can't say that about too many others during my lifetime.

I believe Steve learned something while traveling around India with Kottke. I think he had a brilliant mind and he figured out how to access at least some part of the Akashic record. His ideas and creativity were so advanced, it's almost like someone from the future or another civilization gave him help. In fact, many of history's greatest innovators practiced meditation and had knowledge of the Akash.

Tim has done a good job leading the company since, but they are still riding on Steve's ideas. The watch, the TV, even augmented reality, still all Steve. They haven't developed one Steve-level idea since he passed. Apple owes everything to Steve Jobs.
 
Sincere words I believe in Tim.

I do too.

A real shame some people use this time, which is about celebrating SJ's amazing time at Apple, to tear down another human (TC). Apparently that's the only way they can feel good about themselves.
 
Maybe it would be higher but based on Jobs' propensity to cannibalize Apple's older models for the latest, I think the revenue stream and overall market value would be lower. Did Apple even sell old model iPhones alongside the latest models 10 years ago? Jobs always kept the SKUs and choices to a minimum which makes for a good shopping experience but turns away some customers. When you base new product strategy and design on supply chain like Cook does, you end up saving lots of money and also making more money but you miss out on some opportunities to make a big splash with a revolutionary product. Also, it's not clear that Jobs was ever a fan of recurring services revenue so that $15 billion/quarter they are making now might not be part of Jobs' strategy at all.
They did sell older iPhones alongside the current ones. They’ve always done that and that would make even better sense now I think. I mean, now the performance and everything is so good that you don’t miss on pretty much anything if you buy 2+ years old iPhone. If they would continue this strategy then they wouldn’t have to offer such embarrassing products like the iPhone SE.
 
Your conjecture is basically a “What if?” and is beyond dumb. Steve Jobs was a stubborn man and determined to heal himself naturally, which ended up in his death. Fact: Steve Jobs is long dead. “What if friendly aliens landed and shared their technology with everyone on earth?” - See how my own question is stupid as all f*#k? Tim Cook is doing a masterful job. Period.
I’d say something to this but I would get banned here again for no good reason. So I’ll just say.. keep calm and learn how to communicate like an intelligent person, mate.
 
I'm sure if Steve Jobs was still here, we would be having great innovations (like much better iPhones rather than the stupid incremental updates in the past few years, and we'll probably already have the Apple Car because Steve would push for its release (unlike Timmy who keeps delaying the Car (now delayed to ~2025)). These huge innovations would make Apple even more valuable - more than 12X more valuable.
Steve Jobs is long dead. Get over it, life & Apple has moved on. “What could have beens” aren’t worth the time to think about it.
 
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