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This is never an acceptable position. The environmental discussion has been filled with discredited reporting. Over zealous data gathering. Cherry picking. When do you not welcome discussion? When do you think you have all the facts and further debate in the light of new discovery is something that gets no attention anymore because "the time for talk is past". It is never past for anyone who seeks the truth and not an agenda.

A big story breaking this week is that temperate data has been falsified and adjusted for the past 60 years of data. It's being referred to as the biggest science scandal ever. Data has been adjusted to support the global warming narrative.

We also see a government that seeks to FURTHER consolidate power in its hands through the use of environmental regulations to seize land and to over regulate citizens. The environment and the whole global warming issue is a governmental abuse of power and is being used as a tool. It's a backdoor manipulation tool. Who needs laws when you can just grant the EPA regulatory authority and then point them in the direction of your enemies for some shakedown. No need to make things illegal when you can just regulate it of existence. Thats the government we want right? Where you don't have a set of rules but just a bunch of thugs with power who pick and choose.

No Mr. Cook, the time for talk is not over.

Blah blah blah, screw future generations because it's clearly more important for corporations to not be held accountable for the damage they continue to this planet. We won't be alive to see this planet run dry so whatevs.

So tired of these lame political arguments. I tip my hat to Apple for being mindful of this planet.
 
This is never an acceptable position. The environmental discussion has been filled with discredited reporting. Over zealous data gathering. Cherry picking. When do you not welcome discussion? When do you think you have all the facts and further debate in the light of new discovery is something that gets no attention anymore because "the time for talk is past". It is never past for anyone who seeks the truth and not an agenda.

A big story breaking this week is that temperate data has been falsified and adjusted for the past 60 years of data. It's being referred to as the biggest science scandal ever. Data has been adjusted to support the global warming narrative.

We also see a government that seeks to FURTHER consolidate power in its hands through the use of environmental regulations to seize land and to over regulate citizens. The environment and the whole global warming issue is a governmental abuse of power and is being used as a tool. It's a backdoor manipulation tool. Who needs laws when you can just grant the EPA regulatory authority and then point them in the direction of your enemies for some shakedown. No need to make things illegal when you can just regulate it of existence. Thats the government we want right? Where you don't have a set of rules but just a bunch of thugs with power who pick and choose.

No Mr. Cook, the time for talk is not over.

Funny -- I read a pretty decent number of newspapers and seem to have missed that "big story breaking this week." Regardless, scientists have looked at scads of different data points to arrive at the conclusion that the environment is being adversely impacted at an alarming rate by the actions of mankind. Should those conclusions be fact-checked and reassessed? Of course, and they are all the time. But even accounting for irregularities, the scientific community is nearly unanimous on this issue.

Given what information is readily available, I would suggest your view is akin to those who continued to believe the earth was flat even after being confronted with incontrovertible evidence that it was not. The difference is that their view did not imperil humanity's future. Yours does.
 
This may come as bit of a surprise to you but Global Warming is well Global and not a US political issue. I can't find anything regarding this issue in anything other than right wing politically biased websites and our national shame the Daily Mail.

In terms of cherry picking data etc do you not realise the irony? You are doing exactly that. The evidence for climate change is absolutely overwhelming. Simple.

I don't get it anyway surely if you a conservative you would prefer your country to be free from the whims and dictats of foreign oil on purely national security grounds and national pride of your countries energy infrastructure. Not to mention the jobs it would provide.

I will not reply to anything further as I have neither the time or the energy. And I've heard it all before.

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Medical Research has come a long way since the Dark Ages.

The absolute overwhelming preponderance of evidence is that Climate Change is real. The absolute overwhelming majority of climate scientists are definitive in stating Climate change is real.

Even if it isn't there is nothing to lose and everything to gain by removing dependence on foreign oil producers and developing clean renewable energy sources and dare I say it modern Nuclear power generators.

I don't disagree with anything you just said. There's nothing wrong with believing in a theory, it is just unscientific to not leave room for discussion. Let's move to more renewable resources, why not. It would be short-sighted to argue against that. Let's just not make science into a religion. Always question, always ponder. Doing any less would also be short-sighted.
 
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