Apple CEO Tim Cook: We Want to Continue Making the Mac Pro in the United States

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    During today's earnings call covering the third quarter of 2019, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Apple wants to continue making the Mac Pro in the United States.

    Cook made the statement in response to a question about Apple potentially moving Mac Pro production out of the United States due to looming tariffs on components imported from China.

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    Cook went on to explain that products and components are made in the United States, Japan, Korea, China, Europe, and other places. "That's the nature of a global supply chain," he said. "I think that will carry the day, in the future as well."

    As for the Mac Pro specifically, Cook said that Apple is continuing to invest in its U.S. production facilities.
    Apple has been manufacturing the current Mac Pro in Texas since its 2013 launch, but a June report from The Wall Street Journal said that the upcoming 2019 Mac Pro will be assembled by Quanta Computer in China.

    In a statement at the time, Apple said that "final assembly is only one part of the manufacturing process" explaining that the Mac Pro is designed and engineered in California and includes U.S.-made components.

    Apple in July asked for a U.S. import tariff exemption on parts for the new Mac Pro, which President Trump said would be denied.

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    So, which one is it?

    Given that the U.S. has trouble producing even a custom screw, I'm pretty sure he's leaning towards China. Tim's statement seems more like lip service in order to appease everyone.
     
  3. SecuritySteve macrumors 6502a

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    Your first line and the title contradict each other ... just like Tim.
     
  4. BootsWalking macrumors 65816

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    Mr. Cook is the CEO of a $960 Billion company. If he truly wants to make the Mac Pro in the USA then he certainly has the authority and resources to make that happen. Actions speak louder than lip service.
     
  5. tipoo macrumors 6502

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    I was wondering if they'd do something like that. The Mac Pro is such a low volume product for them, it seemed feasible to move it and avoid the tariff.
     
  6. LordVic macrumors 603

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    You mean...

    "we would love to make the Mac pro in the United states, I just don't want to because I am full of greed and refuse to accept a slightly lower stock price"
     
  7. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Does Trump (and his supporters) really believe that Americans want to assemble iPhones for minimum wage pay? There's a reason these companies outsource work.
     
  8. anshuvorty macrumors 6502a

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    I think the headline is wrong...LOL!
     
  9. twocents macrumors regular

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    Sad that the topic of making Macs in the US has to be flagged as PRSI. How are you supposed to Make America Great Again when you do not Make Great Things Again in America!
     
  10. Altis macrumors 68030

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    Seems like a waste to have things built in China and shipped by boat to America while exporting cash, all to avoid the higher wages and environmental requirements of building here in the first place.
     
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    Was a typo. I fixed it, sorry about that.
     
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    Having money isn’t going to suddenly make it so the US has the proper workforce and facilities to do so.
     
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    that all sounds logical to me. Glad it got clarified
     
  14. rjp1 Suspended

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    You don't think we have the workforce to build the facilities?
     
  15. ThomasJL macrumors 6502a

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    Hey, Tim, regardless of which country you make the Mac Pro in, could you please do it sooner than in six friggin' years after releasing the upcoming model? I mean, can you do it sooner than 2025? For anyone who thinks this is an exaggeration, just keep in mind that the upcoming 2019 Mac Pro is replacing a Mac Pro that hasn't been updated since 2013.
     
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    I just want the MP and XDR display to have a cheaper options. $11k entry point is a no-no.
     
  17. iGeneo macrumors regular

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    Though, we ship chicken to China for processing and then ship it back to sell?
     
  18. sidewinder3000 macrumors 6502a

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    Is there a typo in the first paragraph? Should it read “U.S.” instead of “China”?

    “During today's earnings call covering the third quarter of 2019, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Apple wants to continue making the Mac Pro in China.“
     
  19. Nik macrumors 6502a

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    Would be a great reason to make the products even more expensive. Manufacture the stand in the USA as well, make it 2k! /s
     
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    Is there a typo in the first paragraph? Should it read “U.S.” instead of “China”?

    “During today's earnings call covering the third quarter of 2019, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that Apple wants to continue making the Mac Pro in China.“
     
  21. LordVic macrumors 603

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    having money though is the prime way of fixing that though.

    yo won't have staff or talent pool untl there's work for them to come.

    This is one of those places that "if they build it, they will come". people WILL work where there's work to be found. People aren't going to suddenly move to _________ an train in _______ if there's no job here to use those skills.

    Apple has the money to build the factory and plants, train the employees, and even build a small town around it to help get the ball rolling

    simply put. They will not spend that money doing so. it would require repatriation of a lot of money they have not paid tax on, AND it would for a short period result in a diminished profit number due to the up front cost.

    that's where the idea is dropping dead. Tim Cook will not risk such profit change even if it's short term. His deal as CEO for his stock options is pegged to the stock price at a given point of time. He will do what is in HIS best interest to ensure he getes maximum value. That means he needs to keep it high when those shares divest. This isn't about whats best for Apple or whats best for "MAGA". this is about whats best for Tim.
     
  22. BootsWalking macrumors 65816

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    Really? You're saying money can't buy qualified labor and facilities? We can build jetliners in the USA but we can't assemble the components of a computer here?
     
  23. jerryk macrumors 601

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    Make it wherever it gives us customers the lowest price. It is going to be a low volume product so it's impact to manufacturing in any location is minimal.
     
  24. gugy macrumors 68040

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    The sad thing a lot of people think so.
    Honestly, there is no way Americans can compete with 3rd World countries in large scale manufacturing. Standard of living, red tape, insurance costs, taxations, etc. It's way more costly in USA.
    It's an illusion that is bestowed in order to get votes.
     
  25. JPack macrumors 601

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    It's about the supply chain and the expertise surrounding it. There's a reason why there's not a single LCD factory in the country.

    Metallurgy and engineering for jetliners is different from microelectronics.
     

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