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whitedragon101

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Parts of a phone
iPhone Pro
Screen = new oled with , improved colour, brightness, contrast and power consumption
Battery = new larger for more battery life
RAM = upgrade to 6GB
WI-FI Modem = upgraded to Wi-Fi 6 (ax)
Cellular modem = upgraded to new model with faster LTE
Speakers = new speakers with surround sound function
Camera = better F numbers, better focus, night mode, colour/ contrast matching between the cameras, better HDR and adding an extra physical widescreen camera
Body = more durable
Extras = wideband sensors for new as yet undisclosed phone locating features (probably Apple tile)


They changed basically everything, yet there seem to be so many comments and media articles saying how disappointing it is. They changed basically everything yet people say oh it looks the same or oh no USB c yet. There also seems to be a repeating technique of selecting an army of android phones each with a stand out feature and using that as the basis for comparison. As if those features were all found in some mythical perfect Frankenstein android phone. It feels like people just like slamming Apple and it gets clicks.

(I’m not a blind Apple fan. For example I think charging £1200 for a 256GB iPhone 11 Pro is insane and making the entry storage size for a pro phone 64GB is insulting. But it feels like the media are being highly biased always saying iPhones are disappointing).
 

the future

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As far as tech firms go, Apple is a „superstar“ that attracts enormous amounts of attention. And everyone that attracts attention in this day and age of the internet will automatically attract a lot of negativity as well. Also, people like „new and shiny“, so if you are not very technically versed (like most media) or just incredibly jaded (like most tech blogs), a phone that looks almost the same as the last one will get critizised no matter what changed internally. Plus the smartphone as a category is quite mature now, so the leaps from one year to the next will be smaller – allthough, as your list shows, there is actually a lot of new/better tech in the 11, especially with the cameras. Lastly, people/media are dumb and lazy and only compare spec lists; the whole experience and ecosystem is harder to grasp, but ultimately matters most.
 
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JCCL

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Apr 3, 2010
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dude most of the upgrades you mentions will hardly make a difference to most users. Other than the cameras phone is 99% the same as the iPhone XS for day to day usage. And the 6 GB of RAM are not confirmed ( I personally doubt it)
 
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danilko1

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Jun 21, 2010
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Where's that impeded projector and laser keyboard they showed us 5 years ago? /s
 
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DevinNj

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Apr 27, 2016
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With the Pro you get another camera, brighter screen, longer battery life, oh and same price. How’s that not an upgrade, really people. Oops, forgot a new color option too.
 
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NewYorkRanger

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Oct 27, 2010
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This is an oversimplification. Looks matter. If you changed "everything" but the phone looks exactly the same as last year's phone, did you really change anything? Sorry, people want DESIGN innovation, not "slofies". Apple doesn't innovate on design anymore. 6/7/8 looked identical, more or less. X/Xr/XS/11 look identical, more or less. Do you remember 3G to 4? What about 4 to 5? That is what people want - not refinement and bigger/different/better camera bumps.
 
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C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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This is an oversimplification. Looks matter. If you changed "everything" but the phone looks exactly the same as last year's phone, did you really change anything? Sorry, people want DESIGN innovation, not "slofies". Apple doesn't innovate on design anymore. 6/7/8 looked identical, more or less. X/Xr/XS/11 look identical, more or less. Do you remember 3G to 4? What about 4 to 5? That is what people want - not refinement and bigger/different/better camera bumps.
Perception over reality. Unfortunately for far too many the perception is treat as the reality.
 
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spooky23

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Jan 11, 2013
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People banging on about the early innovations. That's a bit easy to do considering where we've come from and how tech progression matched peoples imagination (creating that ye olde Apple magic). We are such savage consumers, addicted to tech (practically cyborgs) wanting to update our digital limb EVERY YEAR that we react to top tier tech like it's rubbish. When it clearly isn't.

There is clearly some tremendous options out there. Apple is one of them. We've hit a ceiling in some ways and honestly, even changing the size of the notch or adding USB-C or whatever, is hardly innovating. And yet I'm certain people would claim it was. Guess that would also be perception being treated as the reality.
 
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Seanm87

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Oct 10, 2014
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This is an oversimplification. Looks matter. If you changed "everything" but the phone looks exactly the same as last year's phone, did you really change anything? Sorry, people want DESIGN innovation, not "slofies". Apple doesn't innovate on design anymore. 6/7/8 looked identical, more or less. X/Xr/XS/11 look identical, more or less. Do you remember 3G to 4? What about 4 to 5? That is what people want - not refinement and bigger/different/better camera bumps.

What really can you do with a slab of glass though? There’s only so much it can change. And change for the sake of it is pointless.
 
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lyceumHQ

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Aug 4, 2010
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Anything apple does draws massive media attention. It doesn’t matter what they release, there will be articles slating it and saying x y z are better.

Price wise you can’t compare android phones because they’re on offer pretty much weeks after they’re released. That doesn’t happen with iPhones because apple doesn’t allow it.

They didn’t change everything. They just improved already existing things. There’s still a massive notch. There’s now a really ugly (IMHO) camera bump to go with it. There’s still no USB C. The only new thing they introduced was colours. And even if they did remove the notch and add usb c it’s hardly innovation is it.

The fact is when you ask people to pay £1200 for a phone you best make sure that every year people are blown away by it’s innovation and features. Apple haven’t done that.

What baffles me is anyone expecting them too. Given their track record of incremental upgrades.
 
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