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If there is no way to hook it up (there isn't unless you have the new model MB/MBP/MBA with the miniDP connector) all of that makes very little difference.

I think this is the part that everyone is seriously forgetting.

The OP doesn't have a Mac with a mini display port, and there is NO (NOT A SINGLE ONE) Male DVI --> Female Mini Display Port connector.

The OP may be waiting for a while for one still, and in that time there will be no way to use the 24" LED with their older MBP.

Simple case of wanting the lastest and greatest without understanding the tech everyone. The 24" LED is NOT an option for the OP.
 
I think this is the part that everyone is seriously forgetting.

The OP doesn't have a Mac with a mini display port, and there is NO (NOT A SINGLE ONE) Male DVI --> Female Mini Display Port connector.

The OP may be waiting for a while for one still, and in that time there will be no way to use the 24" LED with their older MBP.

Simple case of wanting the lastest and greatest without understanding the tech everyone. The 24" LED is NOT an option for the OP.

Yea, when I was asking about the 24" LED, they said there was an adapter. But this appears to be false.

Does anyone else have issues with some of the sales people in these Apple Stores? They always make me feel like an idiot when I probably know more of whats going on than they do.
 
Yea, when I was asking about the 24" LED, they said there was an adapter. But this appears to be false.

Does anyone else have issues with some of the sales people in these Apple Stores? They always make me feel like an idiot when I probably know more of whats going on than they do.

Sad part is that you do. A lot of them don't take the time to understand what they are selling. They are either college students needing a buck or college grads looking for a job in their field.

The adaptor/cable everyone is getting mixed up is the Male Mini Display Port --> Female DVI that will allow a new MBP owner to connect to older DVI and current DVI monitors. Going the other way hasn't been solved yet.
 
This is how good the 24" LED ACD is to me that even if I didnt have a unibody mb/mbp, I would wait until an adapter is released for me to use the 24" ACD.
 
This is how good the 24" LED ACD is to me that even if I didnt have a unibody mb/mbp, I would wait until an adapter is released for me to use the 24" ACD.

Or you could get a display that is actually better than it to connect to your MBP without the adaptor. The NEC multisyncs are much better and don't have a glass panel in front of them.

Along with them are the newer and much MUCH more expensive 24" 30 bit displays that HP and other make. When those get thinner and cheaper, I'd opt for one or two or those.
 
Or you could get a display that is actually better than it to connect to your MBP without the adaptor. The NEC multisyncs are much better and don't have a glass panel in front of them.

Along with them are the newer and much MUCH more expensive 24" 30 bit displays that HP and other make. When those get thinner and cheaper, I'd opt for one or two or those.

Only thing about the NEC displays that I dont like is that it does not have LED backlighting. At this point and time, I think LED backlit displays are a must and not to mention NEC 24" displays are around $1200 for old technology.

24" LED ACD has the newest H-IPS + led backlighting, what more could you ask for in an external monitor?
 
24" LED ACD has the newest H-IPS + led backlighting, what more could you ask for in an external monitor?

1) No glass panel.
2) More than just USB
3) DVI connections
4) full sized display port
5) matte option
6) Brighter (since the NEC 24" is brighter)
7) A four year warranty (which is included in the NEC)
8) More than 8 or 10 bits (30 bits would be nice :) )

There is a reason why it's the choice for many pros. Not that I don't like the LED ACD, just that it's not the end all be all even for the current Macbooks.

And whatever one else has isn't yesterdays tech, especially when Apple hasn't even beaten it yet. Remember, Apple is JUST NOW putting an H-IPS panel into a case while NEC, LaCie, and other have been doing it for about a year plus.

p.s. upon double checking NEC's site, they do have a
 
1) No glass panel.
2) More than just USB
3) DVI connections
4) full sized display port
5) matte option
6) Brighter (since the NEC 24" is brighter)
7) A four year warranty (which is included in the NEC)
8) More than 8 or 10 bits (30 bits would be nice :) )

1) At first I thought I'd hate the glass panels on the mbp and the cinema display. But after having seen them the high quality glass is much better than any other type of plastic covering the panels in other manufactures that I've seen thus far, something about it reveals the picture quality with high quality and very pleasing to the eyes.

2) I think usb is all that they could do but fw wouldnt hurt, but usb 3.0 is coming so I thought apple made the right choice.

3) DVI is old technology now and I'm glad that they went with mini display ports and for all those whiners out there just wait a bit longer adapters will come 100% sure of that. I love the mini display port as it has a much bigger bandwidth than dvi and the port itself is very very small which is really convenient.

4) Once again adapters will take care of that, just wait.

5) Matte would be nice but glossy is just as good. I've seen an article (cant find it right now) that professional graphics designers/photographers say glossy displays when properly calibrated is even better than matte as the saturation of the colors look much closer to the real life final finished end product. That one engadget or forgot what website it was that wrote the new 24" has bad color accuracy is just biased.

6) I thought that the 330 cd/2 would be dimmer since even the 15" mbp's are rated higher at around 370 but I also hear that 24" ACD's brightness is under spec'd in the brightness area. I can clearly see that its much MUCH brighter than the 15" unibody mbp's. Either way, even professionals are turning down a few notches down from the highest brightness when they use the 24" led acd, so no need for anything brighter (as it clearly still blinds me with eye candiness).

7) Well with the NEC it better come with a 4 year warranty as NEC is not as respectful company as it used to be 6-8 years ago. Also for the price of almost $1500 it better come with 4 year warranty. You could easily buy apple care 3 year for the apple displays on ebay for around $49 bucks.

8) H-IPS panel which the 24" LED ACD does use an 8 bit panel which I think is more than enough for a computer monitor. I do admit though my 52" Sony Bravia XBR4 has a 10-bit panel with 10-bit processing and it is very very impressive (watching full 1080p movies look like the movie is in a totally new dimension!!) but for a computer monitor 8-bit is more than enough especially with led backlighting.

If the NEC comes out with an LED backlight display with a 10bit panel at around $800 (with student discount, I paid $865) then I'd probably be interested.

Also its not true that Apple has just put in an H-IPS panel in, their imacs had the H-IPS panels for a long time now.

One final thing to note is that I do love NEC as one of my earlier computers (before the switch to apple) was an nec tower and crt monitor and it was an awesome setup. My projector is from NEC and it is excellent and their current monitors are one of the best.

But for the price of the 24" LED ACD being $865 with LED backlight technology and the aesthetic looks that match the current unibody mbp perfectly, its just way too good to pass up. Even the people on Hardforums are drooling over the 24" LED ACD as well.
 
Question for Cliff3 & Digital Skunk

You both seem pretty enamored with the 23 ADC. I am looking at one 2nd hand, but I have a friend who has the 23 ADC and just cannot get a slight yellow cast out of the screen. He doesn't have a device to calibrate it and uses the system preference calibrator. Have you guys struggled to get the colours right or is this friend's screen a bad batch model. I guess Apple could have sourced a different LCD panel and achieved a better result on later models. One thing the mate told me was he found the adjustments less in range compared to his MBP screen.
Thanks
 
You both seem pretty enamored with the 23 ADC. I am looking at one 2nd hand, but I have a friend who has the 23 ADC and just cannot get a slight yellow cast out of the screen. He doesn't have a device to calibrate it and uses the system preference calibrator. Have you guys struggled to get the colours right or is this friend's screen a bad batch model. I guess Apple could have sourced a different LCD panel and achieved a better result on later models. One thing the mate told me was he found the adjustments less in range compared to his MBP screen.
Thanks

I use a colorimeter, so getting accurate (or at least very consistent) color rendition from the display is simply a matter of attaching the device and running the software. No struggle. Manually adjusting color is more a matter of finding an adjustment that suits personal preference and I could see where that might prove to be a struggle.
 
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8) I do admit though my 52" Sony Bravia XBR4 has a 10-bit panel with 10-bit processing and it is very very impressive (watching full 1080p movies look like the movie is in a totally new dimension!!) but for a computer monitor 8-bit is more than enough especially with led backlighting.

How is that useful (on the TV) when you don't have any content that is great than 8 bit?
 
You both seem pretty enamored with the 23 ADC. I am looking at one 2nd hand, but I have a friend who has the 23 ADC and just cannot get a slight yellow cast out of the screen. He doesn't have a device to calibrate it and uses the system preference calibrator. Have you guys struggled to get the colours right or is this friend's screen a bad batch model. I guess Apple could have sourced a different LCD panel and achieved a better result on later models. One thing the mate told me was he found the adjustments less in range compared to his MBP screen.
Thanks

I would have to say that either your friend is doing something wrong, or he MAY .... but not very likely has a bad monitor.

Only because the 23" and 30" ACDs actually tend more toward the blue hue than the yellow. What he may be trying to do is get rid of that blue hue by of course fudging up the calibration on his own.

Depending on the work he does, he is better off getting a calibrator, or just leaving it the way it is. As Cliff said, it will be more consistent that way. If he is a photog, then he needs to rely heavily on the calibrator, his ICC profiles, and his toning skills and printer.

There is no way he should get better results from his MBP screen, even the new one if he is using his 23" ACD correctly. My 17" screen is brighter when the ACD hasn't been on for a while, but color is far more accurate on my 23" ACD than MBP.

Other than that, I suggest the 23" ACD over the 24" LED when used with the older MBPs. If they were backward compatible, I'd say go for the 24" but they aren't, so the 23" ACD or any other Professional H-IPS monitor is a better choice for right this moment.
 
Thanks guys, I think my color sight is not too bad (used to colorgrade feature films) so I'll just go check it out and see myself. I have never used a colorimeter on any screen, since I always seemed to get a tint free grey just by eye.
 
I just finally hooked up my 20" ACD that I had boxed for a week because I couldnt decide if I wanted to get a 23" or take it back and get a new mini with the new LED blah blah blah..

Anyway, I stuck with the 20". I'm not a professional but when I compared photos on my Glossy MBP and this ACD, I noticed significant differences. All the colors were better on the ACD. It all looked more natural.

Now i'm not sure how the new LED compares with the glossy MBP, but if they are similar, then I'd say go with an older ACD for doing photo work.

I kind of wish I went with a matte screen with my MBP now. Oh well, I got both types so I mess around with them. I'll test movies tonight, but I think the glossy might be better for that. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

Cheers
 
I just finally hooked up my 20" ACD that I had boxed for a week because I couldnt decide if I wanted to get a 23" or take it back and get a new mini with the new LED blah blah blah..

Anyway, I stuck with the 20". I'm not a professional but when I compared photos on my Glossy MBP and this ACD, I noticed significant differences. All the colors were better on the ACD. It all looked more natural.

Now i'm not sure how the new LED compares with the glossy MBP, but if they are similar, then I'd say go with an older ACD for doing photo work.

I kind of wish I went with a matte screen with my MBP now. Oh well, I got both types so I mess around with them. I'll test movies tonight, but I think the glossy might be better for that. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

Cheers

Comparing your MBP display to your ACD, you are comparing a TN panel to an IPS panel...
 
24" of course. Newer, better panel, better design, thinner design, newer technology, etc. No backlit fading issues either since it's LED backlit.

This. I have the 24" Apple LED cinema display that I'm using with my 13" Macbook Pro and I couldn't be more satisfied! With a wireless keyboard and magic mouse, it's as if I have a 24" iMac...not to mention the picture is stunning :apple:
 
Are there any laptops at all out there with an IPS screen already? To me, that would be the deal breaker to upgrade!
 
I am able to buy both displays from the same apple store. The 24" LED is even cheaper and newer technology. I know that both have IPS panels, but is there any grapic design professional here that uses the new 24" LED display that can give his opinion?

Tsice19 is right, I should check both of them out to see the diferences.

But JG271 isn't right about the 24" LED display
For the 24" there is an adapter that makes it possible to connect it to my older generation macbook pro.

The adapter is $150 for MDP -> DVI...
 
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