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Originally posted by iDork
Does anyone know the response times on the Cinema 20"? I plan on purchasing it for my XP machine to play some First Person Shooters (Quake3, Unreal 2003) and hope it runs smoothly without any lag?

Thanks
well i played battlefield 1942 on the 20 inch cinema and it was beautiful. there was no lag all, truly a great monitor, even to fast paced games.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
well i played battlefield 1942 on the 20 inch cinema and it was beautiful. there was no lag all, truly a great monitor, even to fast paced games.

iJon

Great, thanks for the info! Please update us if you've tried other fast paced FPS games too.

Thanks again
 
Is there any chance to control brightness on a pc?

I am curious about one thing. As i understood it can be quite simple to connect a 20 " apple cinema to a PC, specially if U have Win XP and as long as U have some Graphic card with a DVI plug kind of AIT RADEON and a DVI to ADC adapter right.

U can even correct the stretch aspect with an application so called PowerStrip, however there is still one issue: The Brightness Control !! Can U change it on a PC with Microsoft XP??
 
Re: Is there any chance to control brightness on a pc?

Originally posted by O_MatriX
I am curious about one thing. As i understood it can be quite simple to connect a 20 " apple cinema to a PC, specially if U have Win XP and as long as U have some Graphic card with a DVI plug kind of AIT RADEON and a DVI to ADC adapter right.

U can even correct the stretch aspect with an application so called PowerStrip, however there is still one issue: The Brightness Control !! Can U change it on a PC with Microsoft XP??

You cannot change the brightness on a PC however you can adjust the brightness in the software driver.
 
And Thats it?

I mean, does it have the same effect as if U would change it on MAC? I sure hope so.

So, by telling me this U are saying that I can buy a 20" apple cinema no problem for my pc. Right?

One more thing: Is there Any available Graphic Card for a PC which supports 16:10 format or 1680x1050 (optimal cinfiguration)

Thanks
 
I use my 20" on my PC no probs, running off a GF4 ti4200 using the Apple DVI to ADC adapter. All you have to do with this card is set up powerstrip once and youre good to go.

On the topic of PC cards that support the display without powerstrip, I have heard that ATI 9700 and 9800 do but you cant see the boot sequence on these unless you hold your finger on the power button.
 
well for the 23" its more straight forward.
I has settings for 1920x1200 which is more of a standard display setting for the pc (if your video board supports it).

i have recently bought a 23" display and want to hook it up to my pc. I have an old vga graphics card so i'm going to upgrade it.

the problem is that i can't find a graphics card that will support the 1900 x 1200 resoluiton.
"DVI digital signals using the Single Link standard (typical for most
graphics cards) can be transmitted up to a maximum resolution of
1920x1080 at 60 Hz (or 1280x1024 at 85 Hz), as specified by the Digital
Display Working Group. All graphics cards are identically limited by
this standard. Higher resolutions may be obtained on the analog channel,
either through a VGA connector or through the analog pins of a DVI-I
connector.

Any monitor that claims higher digital resolutions is either relying on
Dual Link DVI (not generally available on current graphics cards) or a
converted analog signal."
now i can find cards with Dual DVI ports but im told by 3D labs that Dual DVI ports is not the same as having Dual Link DVI.

so has anyone been able to get a 23" screen running on a pc at it's native resolution? and if so what card are you using?

cheers for any advice
 
23" Cinema on a PC (running XP)

Ok...

Bought the 23" and the DVI converter. Hooked it up to my pc (Dell Dimension XPS with Radeon 9800XT). Powered on, changed the settings to 1900x1200... and it worked fine. Beautiful! Yes, I do see some of the white pixels everyone talks about, but I don't mind so much. Watched a couple videos in full screen mode. All looks great and then.. black...

Screen goes black. I closed windows media player with the key board, and it came back up. Played another video, and it worked for about 20 seconds then went black again. Same thing over and over. Now, I power on the pc... the screen comes on long enought for me to login to XP, and then it goes black. The only way to get it back on is to unplug the dvi and plug it back in, or reboot. It is almost as if the screen is 'sleeping'

Please anyone know what it is doing?

Thanks,
Roger
 
Re: 23" Cinema on a PC (running XP)

Originally posted by Soggy
Ok...

Bought the 23" and the DVI converter. Hooked it up to my pc (Dell Dimension XPS with Radeon 9800XT). Powered on, changed the settings to 1900x1200............

The DVI to ADC adapter was overheating. Took it back and got another. Works fine now.

Wonderful monitor! It is absolutely beautiful! You don't need the power button or brightness control. My power settings turn the monitor off after 5 minutes of inactivity. I can change the brightness with the settings on my video card. Apple should really push these to pc users. They could potentially sell more of these than imacs....


Oh.. and glue a little XP logo over the Apple logo and it looks even better!
 
This is good news. I have been wanting to hook up a 23" to my PC so I can play UT2003 like that (it plays like crap on my Mac). I have a 17" now and it's nice, but 23" can only be better. Well, unless refresh sucks. We'll see I guess.
 
Originally posted by Imola Ed
This is good news. I have been wanting to hook up a 23" to my PC so I can play UT2003 like that (it plays like crap on my Mac). I have a 17" now and it's nice, but 23" can only be better. Well, unless refresh sucks. We'll see I guess.
on my 20" with battlefield i saw no ghosting what so ever, it was very nice.

iJon
 
i bought an ATI 9700 pro and a formac converter and my 23" works like a dream. just set itself straight up at the native resolution of 1900 x 1200
 
Originally posted by Langwij
i bought an ATI 9700 pro and a formac converter and my 23" works like a dream. just set itself straight up at the native resolution of 1900 x 1200

Cool, cause I have a 9800 pro :D
 
Cinema Display on a PC with Radeon 9700pro NO BOOT SCREEN ??

Hi guys,

I received my apple cinema display 23" today.
I plugged it to my PC using the DVI to ADC adapter.

Everything ran fine except that I got image only after boot was totally completed and that I was in Windows.

I tried to play with PowerStrip (for nothing because the resolution I wanted was already natively supported by XP) and manage to have my pc/card/apple screen not accepting anything else than 1920-1200 ! I suppose other resolutions where set with to high refresh frequencies...
I then managed to get my system back to normal thanks to XP system guard (saving each system modification and allowing you to get back to it).

Ok, now here is the purpose of my post (!):
Is that normal that I get image on my apple screen only when entering Windows ??? I mean, no boot screen, no bios settings, no CMD in fullscreen, ... what the hell ???

If someone can tell me if it is normal or if it is because of a bad parameter of my video card or something else, he would be very helpfull !!
Thanks,
 
before posting here i read a few things about people not seeing any boot screen and i think it depends upon the card your using.

i don't want to put you off here but i did read something somewhere (and this is probably not true at all but i do remember being a little put off myself) that the screens can totally stopped working in these scenerios.

i can't remember when i read this, but i did a hell of a lot of searching on google for 'cinema display windows' etc....

after saying all that they definately weren't using a radeon 9700 pro. these always seem to be the best recommended card to power the screen. the original ATI card also seemed to be preferred.
 
Re: Cinema Display on a PC with Radeon 9700pro NO BOOT SCREEN ??

Originally posted by Grimmy27
Hi guys,

I received my apple cinema display 23" today.
I plugged it to my PC using the ADC.

Everything ran fine except that I got image only after boot was totally completed and that I was in Windows.

I tried to play with PowerStrip (for nothing because the resolution I wanted was already natively supported by XP) and manage to have my pc/card/apple screen not accepting anything else than 1920-1200 ! I suppose other resolutions where set with to high refresh frequencies...
I then managed to get my system back to normal thanks to XP system guard (saving each system modification and allowing you to get back to it).

Ok, now here is the purpose of my post (!):
Is that normal that I get image on my apple screen only when entering Windows ??? I mean, no boot screen, no bios settings, no CMD in fullscreen, ... what the hell ???

If someone can tell me if it is normal or if it is because of a bad parameter of my video card or something else, he would be very helpfull !!
Thanks,

I think is this a normal problem with Radeons with the ACD on a PC, it doesnt decide to switch on until booted into windows. Apparently you can get round this by holding your finger on the power button (on the display) and it should show you the boot screen.

You shouldnt need powerstrip as 1900x1200 is a supported resolution on most video cards, you tend to only need powerstrip for Nvidea cards running a 20" ACD.

hope this helps
 
Re: Re: Cinema Display on a PC with Radeon 9700pro NO BOOT SCREEN ??

Originally posted by Sabbath
I think is this a normal problem with Radeons with the ACD on a PC, it doesnt decide to switch on until booted into windows. Apparently you can get round this by holding your finger on the power button (on the display) and it should show you the boot screen.

You shouldnt need powerstrip as 1900x1200 is a supported resolution on most video cards, you tend to only need powerstrip for Nvidea cards running a 20" ACD.

hope this helps

Hi,

Thanks for the help !
I tried to hold the display power button but it did not work.

Now I must precise 2 things:
- When the PC is booting or when I use a CMD in fullscreen, the screen is not like "shutdown", it is more like it is receiving a signal but can not handle it. So the screen is more like "very dark grey" than black.
- The power button seem to not operat at all (it becomes lighter/darker but no display effect).

If you can help me or give me some url where to seek ... it would be again very kind.

Thanks again,
 
I have a 23" Cinema Display, and have used it on my PC. The only issue that I have had is that it does not suport low resolutions. Boot screens are usually 640 x 480 and some games default settings are really low too. When a resolution goes this low the monitor goes black. On a boot screen it will come back when windows boots. I however could not go into the bios to change any settings. On a game that lowers the res by default I could not get out of the game without rebooting. So I would have to plug in another monitor and reset the default res of the game and then it would play fine.
So, unless you have another monitor and don't mind switching them back and forth every one in awhile, I would not recommend spending the money on a Cinema for a PC, personally.
 
I think is this a normal problem with Radeons with the ACD on a PC, it doesnt decide to switch on until booted into windows. Apparently you can get round this by holding your finger on the power button (on the display) and it should show you the boot screen.
i have a ATI radeon 9700 pro and it works perfect, boot screen and all.

i would recommend this monitor as its cheaper than the same screen packaged by sony, and i bought it for design work and wanted the highest resolution and as much desktop space as possible. the screen has provided this.
 
Originally posted by Langwij
i have a ATI radeon 9700 pro and it works perfect, boot screen and all.

i would recommend this monitor as its cheaper than the same screen packaged by sony, and i bought it for design work and wanted the highest resolution and as much desktop space as possible. the screen has provided this.

Hi,

Glad to hear that this "can" work at least.
Do you own an ATI card build by ATI or, like me, by another constructor (Powercolor, Saphire, ...) ?
 
Originally posted by Langwij
mine is ATI built

Langwij,

I can not manage to get it working.
I have tried to update my video card bios and also my motherboard bios but nothing seems to work :(

Could-you describe your PC system because it seems that not only the video card can play a role but also the chipset ...

And, if I give you a flash utility, could you read your bios video card and give it to me ?

Thanks for the help,
 
Originally posted by Grimmy27
Langwij,

I can not manage to get it working.
I have tried to update my video card bios and also my motherboard bios but nothing seems to work :(

Could-you describe your PC system because it seems that not only the video card can play a role but also the chipset ...

And, if I give you a flash utility, could you read your bios video card and give it to me ?

Thanks for the help,

Anyone having a Cinema Display working on a Radeon 9700 pro on a PC, including POST, BIOS and DOS fullscreen session ?

I need an hand quick, because if I can not manage to make it work, I'll give the screen back :(

Thanks for help
 
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