I'm neither a mathematician nor a statistician, so I'm willing to be shown why my skepticism is way off base by somebody who is an expert in statistics.
But it doesn't seem to me that the numbers are all that significant, especially when the data from those 10,000 workouts was collected over a two-year period. That's only an average of 13 workouts per day.
I would think that for the data to be useful, one would need to study the workouts of hundreds, maybe even thousands, of test subjects, and that would amount to considerably more than 18,000 hours of data.
Again, I'm not an expert in this area, so maybe the figures really are significant. I would love somebody who is to enlighten me.
EDIT: Or, perhaps the phrase "workout sessions" refers not to individual workouts, but workouts featuring several people all at once. In that case, "10,000 workout sessions" could mean "120,000 individual workouts" if a dozen people were being studied at the same time. Still, the 18,000-hour figure seems rather small to me.
It's the same tech as all the wrist worn HRMs as far as anyone knows until someone takes it apart and says otherwise. Did they say if it does all day HRM or only for activities?
I wouldn't never expect Samsung to test a product like this, they just release crap and keep releasing different products till they get it right. So good on you Apple on the effort to get a good product out the first time...
Try to imagine Samsung running 10,000 12 hour test sessions in a secret fitness lab over two years. Not very believable, is it? Neither the extreme pursuit of quality and usefulness, nor being years AHEAD of the industry instead of following 2 months behind the latest rumor about Apple...
I don't know if/when I'll want an Apple Watch, but I do know Apple goes way beyond the halfway spaghetti-on-the-wall product development practiced by the competition.
Pretty cool, but expected. As a tech company as prestigious as Apple, you have to test it and perfect it otherwise your reputation will suffer.
Try to imagine Samsung running 10,000 12 hour test sessions in a secret fitness lab over two years. Not very believable, is it? Neither the extreme pursuit of quality and usefulness, nor being years AHEAD of the industry instead of following 2 months behind the latest rumor about Apple...
I don't know if/when I'll want an Apple Watch, but I do know Apple goes way beyond the halfway spaghetti-on-the-wall product development practiced by the competition.
Please tell me you're joking? PLEASE. TELL ME. YOU'RE JOKING.
Apple thoroughly tested all for all those Bluetooth, wireless and USB3, battery logic board and display issues right.
Come on get a hold of your self. This is ridiculous at best and shameless denial at worst.
All major manufacturers have test regimes. You think they tested as deeply or gleaned as much data as Ford did with something even as mundane as an F150?
You've seen engines run to destruction on a test bed right?
Sigh.......some one always gotta bring up Samsung.
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Why?
All those panels and memory bought FROM THEM BY APPLE would have been quite stringently researched and tested for ages to reach the point they're at with technology or d'you think they just got lucky?
There is some really senseless bashing of Samsung going on here.
This is all for marketing and PR nonsense.
"Oh look, people running on machines. How amazing our product therefore is."
...or not.
Exactly, pure propaganda, what's next, Nightline visiting the FoxConn assembly line to see how the craftsmanship can still take place while standing for, oh that's right, we won't be seeing Ive wax poetic about that process in the next Apple product video.
Anyway that Apple Fitness dude added some more BS, he stated only you get to decide which apps can take your health data, but are there any apps that would function fully without taking your health information, doubtful.
A simple PR stunt to silence them who have early issues to report. I remember when they did this after the antennagate fiasco... didn't change the fact that my iPhone 4 still sucked when it came to finding a signal.
But they don't do that for iPhone, iPad, MAC OS, IOS, etc
Wish they spent that much attention on IOS.
Please tell me you're joking? PLEASE. TELL ME. YOU'RE JOKING.
Apple thoroughly tested all for all those Bluetooth, wireless and USB3, battery logic board and display issues right.
Come on get a hold of your self. This is ridiculous at best and shameless denial at worst.
All major manufacturers have test regimes. You think they tested as deeply or gleaned as much data as Ford did with something even as mundane as an F150?
You've seen engines run to destruction on a test bed right?
Sigh.......some one always gotta bring up Samsung.
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Why?
All those panels and memory bought FROM THEM BY APPLE would have been quite stringently researched and tested for ages to reach the point they're at with technology or d'you think they just got lucky?
There is some really senseless bashing of Samsung going on here.
I would think that for the data to be useful, one would need to study the workouts of hundreds, maybe even thousands, of test subjects, and that would amount to considerably more than 18,000 hours of data.
But only health data between the hours of 9am and 5pm, the rest of the time the phone has to be charged lol
Battery life + apple = biggest tech joke ever![]()
Really looking forward to seeing how accurate the heart rate monitor is on the iWatch. For all the sensors they removed from prototypes, this should be a home run, right?
Anyone know how the heartrate sensor compares to the one that will be on the up3? same technology?
This is all for marketing and PR nonsense.
"Oh look, people running on machines. How amazing our product therefore is."
...or not.
I will admit, to me this really just says:
Our device cannot accurately monitor anything, like the proper medical expensive equipment here can.
So, we are collecting data, so that when our device reads something (all that it can, given it's just a cheap consumer device with a monitoring device that costs a few dollars)
We can then use this poor data, and try and match it up with this accurate data and give you some rough idea on the watch.
Oh, and "please note any health data displayed by the watch is to be used as a guide only"
Please tell me you're joking? PLEASE. TELL ME. YOU'RE JOKING.
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Come on get a hold of your self. This is ridiculous at best and shameless denial at worst.
All major manufacturers have test regimes. You think they tested as deeply or gleaned as much data as Ford did with something even as mundane as an F150?
Did you buy yourself S9110 from Samsung? Did you buy the first galaxy gear? Those are perfect examples of failed products not because of the individual hardware, but the combination of hardware and interface wasn't tested for it's purpose. Have you tried one of there smart TVs? TV is great, the smart features are horrible..... So not shameless, a valid criticism from a consumer. And I think Samsung phones are amazing phone hardware, thank the gods that they use Andriod as there OS. Because you know, there phones were amazing and amazing and market leaders.. like there SGH-i607 BlackJack (windows phone), Instinct (some crap OS), Omnia (windows)
Please.. from your expert opinion, describe your experience with these products....... and how the user experience was considered...
I"m the first one to bash apple when they deserve, but one thing I give them merit for is in general (there are always exceptions), they have taken the time to try and get the product mostly right with a solid interface. Maybe that is why they are the most valued company in the world...
While I have thousands of dollars of samsung products, all I get is a jumble of features with no worry about interface and execution. So after a plethora of Samsung products, I am not joking and speak from experience, I am disappointed that they rush to market and advertise features that haven't been well thought out. In this news/propaganda video, it does highlight that apple took the time to really test out what was useful. They wanted to go into a new field, got a data set, and took the time to release a product that does on the outset seem that is is better thought out then other smartwatches on the market. I'll have to wait to try it, but I don't see it flopping like the S9110 or the first galaxies.
So I expect you to start flaming again with more insults at whatever elementary schoolyard you learned them from.
I'm neither a mathematician nor a statistician, so I'm willing to be shown why my skepticism is way off base by somebody who is an expert in statistics.
But it doesn't seem to me that the numbers are all that significant, especially when the data from those 10,000 workouts was collected over a two-year period. That's only an average of 13 workouts per day.
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True, but until someone takes it apart it's also far superior tech to all previous wrist-worn HRMS, as far as anyone knows.
Heartrate in itself is not a good indication of anything. It's subject to so many variables and is rarely used by professional sports persons.
Cyclists wouldn't go near heart rate and often don't record it in training. They'll use a power meter for watts along with cadence & lactate testing.
Runners won't use it much either. They'll also use lactate testing within number or strides and distance and time.
Why would nornal persons want heart rate is beyond me. It really doesn't mean much at all as an isolated metric.