Apple-Commissioned Study Touts App Store Job Growth and Success of Small Developers

[MauiPa]

Yep! Commissioning your own study is like buying a JD Powers award. Neither is worth even a penny.

Not really, but it makes great snark. commissioning an external professional group to perform a study is done all the time. It eliminates the internal bias, and the results can be trusted. Now if you are alleging that the "Analysis Group" would risk their professional reputation on a study that just makes up crap, you should prove it, or perhaps you are alleging that the Analysis Group is not professional - I suppose you should prove that as well.

 

[NightFox]

I am not here to defend Apple. But to many of the people (developers, politicians, consumers) seem to have forgotten what things were like prior to the introduction of our current small selection of mobile stores.

There is always room to improve, but what is being proposed is not good.

How I miss the days of Handango and app prices that started at £30

 

[NightFox]

Not really, but it makes great snark. commissioning an external professional group to perform a study is done all the time. It eliminates the internal bias, and the results can be trusted. Now if you are alleging that the "Analysis Group" would risk their professional reputation on a study that just makes up crap, you should prove it, or perhaps you are alleging that the Analysis Group is not professional - I suppose you should prove that as well.

I don't think anyone's alleging that the analysis group made stuff up, just that its scope, the direction it took and the presentation of its results may not have been 100% objective. A bit like all those 'independent' studies that the tobacco and petrochemical industries like to commission every now and then.

 

[The_Gream]

What were things like? Please remind me. I remember having to jailbreak my device both before and after the App Store to enable functions that Apple flat out refused to support, or to download apps that were not allowed by some random policy in the App Store.

How about Verizon’s store ?or the fact that if you wanted to publish software you generally only did so in your country, had to find businesses who would carry it and take the risk it would sale. The App Store/Play Store helped shape digital distribution into what it is today.
Again, not saying there isn’t room for improvement, but we would not be were are today if Apple/Google kept doing things as they had been 15-20 years ago. BlackBerrys and Razor Flip phones.

 

[6787872]

I look forward to you disproving the results. waiting.....

just like i look forward to you proving them. waiting....

 

[erikkfi]

I'm still searching this statement looking for the message. But if you don't remember, before apple, and Google and Microsoft and Epic and...... sold software in app stores, you ordered boxed software, or went to a store to buy disks. Not sure what distribution costs, production costs, store fees transportation etc, costs were, but it was a lot.

Yes, like you I do not remember downloading any software from the internet before the App Store brought digital software distribution to the masses.

 

[developer13245]

It's wild to think how software didn't even exist before Apple created the App Store in 2008. Are we sure we want to open up competition on these devices? We might go back to the dark days of plentiful computers with no software to run on them.

Even wilder when you consider that Apple is a hardware company and has never made a profit on Software, yet they now seem to think they can dictate an entire industry they make zero money from.

Also, "digital goods and services" is not only software development, so touting "small developers" as a main theme (meaning software) is pure spin.

 

[erikkfi]

Even wilder when you consider that Apple is a hardware company and has never made a profit on Software, yet they now seem to think they can dictate an entire industry they make zero money from.

Also, "digital goods and services" is not only software development, so touting "small developers" as a main theme (meaning software) is pure spin.

It's kind of funny how closely Apple's argument here tracks with the BS Facebook put out when the iOS 14 privacy changes were on the horizon; to wit: 'you're killing small businesses.' Remember:

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[svish]

Good for all the developers. But Apple could consider lowering their commission from 30%.

 

[jlc1978]

Good for all the developers. But Apple could consider lowering their commission from 30%.

Considering the study said 90% of the developers are small developers Apple already has to 15%. The whole 30% / sideloading is a fight between big money; and small developers may become collateral damage.

 

[Smearbrick]

How about Verizon’s store ?or the fact that if you wanted to publish software you generally only did so in your country, had to find businesses who would carry it and take the risk it would sale. The App Store/Play Store helped shape digital distribution into what it is today.
Again, not saying there isn’t room for improvement, but we would not be were are today if Apple/Google kept doing things as they had been 15-20 years ago. BlackBerrys and Razor Flip phones.

If Apple would’ve stayed on their original track for apps, they would be web-based, and native app installations wouldn’t be allowed. The folks at Cydia created the path forward.

 

[developer13245]

If Apple would’ve stayed on their original track for apps, they would be web-based, and native app installations wouldn’t be allowed. The folks at Cydia created the path forward.

Yes, I had my first native app (not web based) running on an iPhone before there was an app store