my understanding is
when you convert your MM account to an iCloud account you will lose these features
stick with your MM account until the end and you get to keep them (until June 2012 anyway), at which point they will also disappear
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my understanding is
when you convert your MM account to an iCloud account you will lose these features
stick with your MM account until the end and you get to keep them (until June 2012 anyway), at which point they will also disappear
I agree ... Galleries was always nicer than Picassa or Flickr for just showing off pictures. Shame I'll have to start paying someone else besides Apple to do that service for me (because the free sites all suck).
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They will call it Dropbox.
Any Keynote or Pages document you save on your computer will automatically uploaded to iCloud (and be thus accessible from within Pages etc. on the iPad).
Most likely the Apple PR he spoke to honestly did not know and instead of promising something the PR person was not sure about, he simply said, 'to my knowledge, no', which just means nothing with Apple, unless it is announced on their website (or on a keynote), nothing is really official with Apple.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4702
Linked in the original article which the MacRumors article linked to ...
Seriously I have my own dedicated server, I can easily to setup the online album such as thing on my own, but the reason I still using dot mac or even mobileMe is the simplicity of flow to publish my personal photos and video on my "own" place. I guess thats the same reason of some dotmac member still using it, at least I do...
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GAH!!! I am SICK of signing into iTunes with my old gmail address!! I finally got a descent reply from support a couple of weeks ago saying as a workaround I could use an alias.
Oh yeah, thanks for that now that aliases are disabled.
I still can't believe Apple thought it was smart to auto-assign an iTunes account to every MobileMe account. WTF. I wonder if they plan to do the same with new iCloud account. This is bull.
Here's a question. If I canceled my MobileMe account and signed up for a new iCloud account what are the odds I could use my current @me.com address?
ex. I currently use xyz@me.com. If I delete this account would the address be up for grabs?
GAH!!! I am SICK of signing into iTunes with my old gmail address!! I finally got a descent reply from support a couple of weeks ago saying as a workaround I could use an alias.
Oh yeah, thanks for that now that aliases are disabled.
I still can't believe Apple thought it was smart to auto-assign an iTunes account to every MobileMe account. WTF. I wonder if they plan to do the same with new iCloud account. This is bull.
Here's a question. If I canceled my MobileMe account and signed up for a new iCloud account what are the odds I could use my current @me.com address?
ex. I currently use xyz@me.com. If I delete this account would the address be up for grabs?
As a long time MobileMe user with iWeb it is dissapointing today the least. I have a lot of websites hosted on my mobile me storage space, I was happy paying for the service for over 10 years and now it feels like Apple are rewarding users of their mobile me iDisk and iWeb programmes with a big finger.....
iCloud is wonderful, but it should not be to th detriment of existing loyal users.
You can keep them on iCloud. The "30 days" thing is only for pictures that are in flux...you can actually make albums and keep them synced...though it goes to your 5gigs of storage.
Are these shareable ? , thats one of the main things with gallery, showing your pictures to people
Agreed.
iWeb publish was nice - but is replaceable
iDisk was never good (way too slow)
Galleries - this is the one thing that is not replaceable
All the big photo sharing sites are good for photo sharing, but look plain ugly, contain way to many links to its own service and often require flash when building a 'slide show'. (I had some 'private' galleries embedded in my webpage which looks good and was a good fit to the overall design of the iweb pages - flickr & co don't integrate smoothly )
I hosted two pages on my .mac account. The first one, I am in the process to move to my gmail account which offers free web hosting (very simplistic site where the gmail site builder is good enough). The other page is already 99% moved to squarepace.com (fantastic site builder and good looking photo galleries [not as good as .mac galleries, but good enough and no plugin required])
Guess squarespace might get lots of new customers now. I had the free trial for half a day and signed up for it (the free trial is 14 days)
Best thing they can do
I despise iWeb... and frontpage? Welcome to '03!
Why don't you try using something like wordpress for your sites? If you don't have the markup/coding expertise you can make some really nice sites with wordpress and it's free.
I use 1Password, but just closed down my Dropbox account...with their security issues there. Yes, the 1password data file is encrypted client side, I still don't trust Dropbox anymore. Especially after just making everyone's account open with no password needed for 4 hours this past weekend.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/231000111
yea that was a ridiculous screwup
this sucks so much it hurts.
no keychain syncing anymore? no iDisk, no iWeb? iCloud is either a huge step down from MobileMe in features (we see about quality later).
Also it is not possible anymore to edit Aliases for Mail. I take this as sign that Aliases go away as well. That would suck even more because I have used them to sign up for websites.
It's not that I'm expecting something free here. I just want Apple to not take away features of their services as they please. Time to switch to some other service.
no keychain syncing anymore? no iDisk, no iWeb? iCloud is either a huge step down from MobileMe in features (we see about quality later).
Also it is not possible anymore to edit Aliases for Mail. I take this as sign that Aliases go away as well. That would suck even more because I have used them to sign up for websites.
It's not that I'm expecting something free here. I just want Apple to not take away features of their services as they please. Time to switch to some other service.
Very simple, Apple focusses on making the features it has announced for iCloud work as good as it can. Once that is achieved, it will start adding more features. As so often, a new system is announced which can different things and more exciting things but not yet all the things of the old system. It is for the user to decide whether they want to keep old the old features for the time being or try the new features but lose some of the old.
It is your choice.
Once you can actually sign up for iCloud, I am sure Apple will have documentation on whether you can keep your @me.com addresses. And judging from the fact that your .mac e-mail addresses transfered just fine to MobileMe, I think the chances are pretty good you will be able to transfer them.
What features iCloud will have in one year from now is obviously not yet decided (and will not for quite some time). Apple simply doesn't make any promises yet for the period past June 2012.
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come on apple
First FCP X now this news.... why are taking everything that was good about your service and kicking us in the teeth. Do I really have to go back to Microsoft....
First FCP X now this news.... why are taking everything that was good about your service and kicking us in the teeth. Do I really have to go back to Microsoft....
I'm surprised at some of the comments here, I thought Apple made it pretty clear iCloud was less about 'cloud storage' and more about 'cloud syncing'
The point if iCloud is to ensure all your devices, including iOS, Mac and PC devices are all perfectly in sync. All of the time. Not provide online storage so you can access data from your devices anywhere.
Because of this, you won't need cloud storage because all your content will be available on your devices.
There is no need for the Gallery feature because your photos will already be available on your devices. Why view them over the net when it's quicker and easier to view them directly from your device?
Personally, I think this is the safer, better way of approaching 'cloud' services.
The point if iCloud is to ensure all your devices, including iOS, Mac and PC devices are all perfectly in sync. All of the time. Not provide online storage so you can access data from your devices anywhere.
Because of this, you won't need cloud storage because all your content will be available on your devices.
There is no need for the Gallery feature because your photos will already be available on your devices. Why view them over the net when it's quicker and easier to view them directly from your device?
Personally, I think this is the safer, better way of approaching 'cloud' services.
Not sure if I can truest Apple to add more features
going by track record, come 2013 time they will have other ideas and start removing features from iCloud that people have used
i would like a service that provides a service and sticks with it, not abandons it after 2 years
how do I share the pictures with somebody ?
can i email a link so they can be viewed ?
I dont need to view them only on my devices
That is exactly why it is good to be a mobile me user now. We garbed all the useful email account name before it becoming like... gmail and yahoo mail.
Thus, do not cancel your mobile me account. It will worth it!!
That is also why I registered something similar to steve.jobs with other aliases like s.jobs, s.friends s.family months ago. I saw it coming!!!! You might also want to change your facebook username to something useful before they officially roll out facebook address. It will be [facebook user name]@facebook.com
I agree. I have a MobileMe account, but for iTunes I am using an old Hotmail account. I made changes in iTunes Store to have any messages sent to my .mac address, but I was really hoping to have everything under one account.
So instead of giving all my friends my gallery address so they can look and share my photos, I have to give them my iCloud login details and make sure they have an iPhone or iPad so they can see my photos loaded to the cloud...
Yep that sounds much 'safer' indeed....
You cannot trust anybody. Because nobody operates as a charitable organisation with infinite resources. Any service that is not popular will be shutdown at some point. Remember Google Wave?
It is up to you to figure out whether a service is likely to be around for a while. Any service that does not have a multi-year track record, carries a significant risk of market failure.