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Apple Confirms iOS 17.4 Disables Home Screen Web Apps in the European Union
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I'm sorry you are 100% wrong here. You clearly didn't read it, at all. Apple had little reason to support web apps as much as they did before because it is a very low volume sport, and to continue to offer them in a way that was compliant with the nonsense DMA would have required a massive overall of web app support, which isn't justified on their end.
As a citizen of the EU I was against the EU for all this bull**** regulations. The Type-C, DMA, etc. This made me change my mind. Apple is acting like a toddler that couldn't get its way and now its revenging on everyone.
If PWA's were more widely used, they would have. It's that simple.
Maybe you should try reading and understanding it then, because this is not what you think it is.
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The entire thing its just bad for them.
1st, they can't make a simple feature that's available in Android with every browser engine? 2nd they just decided to remove in every browser on iOS, including Safari?
This is clearly a revenge on the consumer by Apple.
Bought my iPhone, Mac and anything else a while before these shenanigans.
That do ya?
No I can't understand what they did. Even if they state it would make it less secure it's clearly a lie. Android is considered more secure by security experts and has both sideloading and allows all browser engines.
Them saying WebKit is safer than Chromium it's just insane, worse that people believe them.
Europe is Apple's 2nd biggest market (yes, currently even bigger than China). So you're quite wrong here.
This is major misunderstanding of the DMA. It really was not created on Epic, Spotify or others call. I get where this view comes from, but that's really not how EU or DMA specifically works.
Actually I'm already seeing how much is the trade in of my iPhone 15 Pro 256gb for a S24 Ultra. I will think about hard before doing the switch.
That the key part that I call BS on. Minority of sales (less than 50%) While less than 50% they still are well over 30% over all and if you move it just upper middle class and up it gets even closer to 50. The other big part is they are part of the duopoly. Top it off Apple is using its massive mark power in the mobile OS to leverage its power in other markets.
Limiting everyone to say Webkit is not a market advantage for anything but webkit. The bigger part is Apple using its massive power in one market to squeeze others out in different markets.
If Apple had like sub 10% and was not part of the duopoly it would be a different story.
All in all I think the bigger problem is it took way to long for the regulations to kick in and start being put in place. Google, Apple and other big companies need to be pulled back a long time ago.
It always fascinates me on this and other topics to see so many of you who think that Apple owes you something you want just because what? Apple is a business. You make a choice. You want what they are offering or you don’t. It really is that simple. The idea that the EU is going to dictate exactly how Apple should operate is a silly notion. Apple should absolutely protect their business and their IP.
This “Apple is being childish” says more about the critics than it does about Apple. Apple is operating as a business. And I choose to support them because I like the business choices they make.
This “Apple is being childish” says more about the critics than it does about Apple. Apple is operating as a business. And I choose to support them because I like the business choices they make.
People: Why did you do this Apple?
Apple: Because of "security".
Apple: Because of "security".
Can you point me to security experts saying Android is more secure than iOS?
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It‘s the consequence of iOS 17.4, which is the action of Apple.
One can implement things and solutions in many ways, Apple chose this way.
Maybe but the post from the OP kind of reads like, OK you must drop everything Apple right now.
Apple could have implemented this differently, also on macOS Chrome and Safari can create PWA side by side.
I think Apple is just one of those companies that has certain subsets of customers... Not many other companies in the world have a set of customers that fill message boards like these with very strong opinions and emotions... for some people Apple is more than a business.
I think for many people... they forget that Apple are just a business... it exists to make money for shareholders.... thats its sole purpose... it doesnt do this out of charity or vocation (Some of its workers might). And a company doesnt really care about you as an individual... it only cares about you as a customer. And it will make decisions that have this at its core... its priority is as a business.
"would require building an entirely new integration architecture that does not currently exist in iOS and was not practical to undertake given the other demands of the DMA and the very low user adoption of Home Screen web apps. "
It's Apple being rational.
Very few customers will stop or start buying iPhones because of the removal of this. The user's can still use web apps.Building a new integration architecture is just going to bring Apple cost and implementation risks.
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I'm sorry but you just don't understand what this is talking about at all, and I don't have the energy to explain it to you.
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It's literally what they're saying. They disabling PWAs because they believe other browser engines are unsafe and that allowing them to create PWAs would decrease security in iPhones.