Apple Confirms iPadOS Will Get Same EU App Changes as iOS This Fall

[vipergts2207]

It's only confusing because you keep making up my side. I didn't imply that the allowing other browsers engines was bad. I specifically said it was good. However, even good regulations can have some negative impacts. In this case, the possibility of extending Google's control of the browser market.


Again, you made up a ridiculous position that I've never argued in order to make it easier to argue against. It's nothing but a strawman fallacy. Ignore the extremist arguments on both sides.

They’re not extremists if it’s the typical view among the anti-DMA folks that there are no benefits and it only seeks to pick on Apple. If anything, you’d be the outlier since it seems you believe the law has notable positives and it doesn’t exist just to punish Apple.

 

[BaldiMac]

They’re not extremists if it’s the typical view among the anti-DMA folks that there are no benefits and it only seeks to pick on Apple. If anything, you’d be the outlier since it seems you believe the law has notable positives and it doesn’t exist just to punish Apple.

I'm sure you have a whole bunch of made up data or anecdotes to back that up. Either way, I'm not interested in arguing the all or nothing position you keep trying to associate me with.

 

[vipergts2207]

I'm sure you have a whole bunch of made up data or anecdotes to back that up. Either way, I'm not interested in arguing the all or nothing position you keep trying to associate me with.

Just read through the myriad threads on MR related to the DMA. This one even.

The EU can go pound sand. Back in the mob days this is what would be called a shake-down.

Can't wait to see what ******** the Extortionist Union pulls out of its hat the next time it decides to use its Bank of Apple Perpetual Debit Card

Malicious compliance seems the right response to malicious enforcement.

”We have a bunch of quantitative metrics that you don’t violate so we’re holding you in breach of the qualitative one: we don’t like you.”

 

[Unregistered 4U]

It apparently simultaneously destroys Apple’s business, but also locks in Apple’s and Google’s dominance. Amazing!

I never said it destroys Apple’s business. I just agreed with you that it ensures that the only mobile OS’s supported in the EU in the future will be Apple’s and Google’s. With the added benefit that, since Apple’s devices are becoming more like Google’s in the region, Apple should see a marketshare increase.

The goal was to foster competition and level the playing field in tangential markets, like app distribution, browsers, music/video streaming, and gaming.

Right, by locking in Google and Apple as the only providers of mobile OS’s in the EU. I agree with you on that.

Nokia was taken out in a paradigm shift.

I get it, everyone knows that paradigms stopped shifting in 2007! They are now set and will never change again. The fact that companies in commanding market positions in the PAST lost their market positions, those were all flukes.

Great, Apple should be thrilled with the DMA then. Odd that they appear to keep fighting it though…

Fighting how? By “doing what the DMA instructs?” That’s a big fight they’re putting up. And, it’s exactly the level of “fighting” one would expect for a company that sees their future revenues going up due to making changes companies in the region see as preferable.

 

[vipergts2207]

I never said it destroys Apple’s business. I just agreed with you that it ensures that the only mobile OS’s supported in the EU in the future will be Apple’s and Google’s. With the added benefit that, since Apple’s devices are becoming more like Google’s in the region, Apple should see a marketshare increase.

Oh ok, so your worry is that the DMA makes Apple even more powerful than they already were then. I don’t have that same worry, but if you do, I would suggest buying more stock.

Right, by locking in Google and Apple as the only providers of mobile OS’s in the EU. I agree with you on that.

You’ll have to explain how this works actually.

I get it, everyone knows that paradigms stopped shifting in 2007! They are now set and will never change again. The fact that companies in commanding market positions in the PAST lost their market positions, those were all flukes.

The DMA does not stop paradigm shifts. For instance, AR/VR is a burgeoning market still in its infancy. A company could come out with a pair of glasses that functions like a computer for your face tomorrow and own the nascent market.

Fighting how? By “doing what the DMA instructs?” That’s a big fight they’re putting up. And, it’s exactly the level of “fighting” one would expect for a company that sees their future revenues going up due to making changes companies in the region see as preferable.

Why did Apple wait to conform iPadOS to the DMA until they were forced to? If the DMA’s terms are so favorable to them they would have done so along with iOS.