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Apple Confirms Mac Pro Is Dead, No Future Models Planned
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Sure, it will have that M5 Ultra. Eventually. Possibly still without the 512GiB memory configuration that Apple removed from the M3 Ultra offerings. And it will again only be relevant to the users who don't want the latest process/architecture and rather pay extra for an older architecture instead of buying the M6 Max. Or they could buy a M5 Max MBP now if they don't need more memory.
The professional who buys a workstation to do their job is probably better off saving the Ultra money and just replacing their M4 Max Studio a bit earlier, if they even have one at all. If these are workloads where a Mac Pro would have been considered then the Studio might have to compete with offerings that come with hardware like the RTX Pro 6000.
I just don't see what individuals or small businesses exist as customers for Apple who want the Ultra. It's very specific situations like for example where 128GiB RAM isn't enough but 512GiB isn't needed. Or where you can make use of more than a dozen CPU cores, most software right now cannot parallelize its computations beyond 20 threads because it depends on results of the preceding computations. I could get shorter export/transcode times but that makes up a small percentage of my workflow.
One other specific scenario is where you want 60 GPU cores instead of 40 GPU cores that give you a theoretical 50% uplift at least in rasterization performance. But this performance cannot compare to offerings with dedicated graphics cards in the first place and chances are that if 60 cores don't do the trick then 40 cores of an older generation won't either.
The trash can mac should be in a museum of "Stupid things companies made"
Agent_Apple
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Such a bummer. My 7,1 MacPro lives on (8TB, W5700x, 32TB Promise MPX, OWC SSD RAID, 160GB RAM, etc.). I do have renewing Apple Care, wonder what happens in the event it can't be repaired? This thing is built like a tank.
This thing, along with my two XDR Pro displays, is an incredible set up. Was keeping my fingers crossed for something beyond the M2 Ultra Mac Pro (still available as a refurb from Apple).
I guess I will be looking at the M5 Ultra Studio (hopefully announced at WWDC) - but dread having to have it connected to multiple external storage devices (vs. everything internal in my Mac Pro).
Pouring one out later today for the Mac Pros...RIP.
This thing, along with my two XDR Pro displays, is an incredible set up. Was keeping my fingers crossed for something beyond the M2 Ultra Mac Pro (still available as a refurb from Apple).
I guess I will be looking at the M5 Ultra Studio (hopefully announced at WWDC) - but dread having to have it connected to multiple external storage devices (vs. everything internal in my Mac Pro).
Pouring one out later today for the Mac Pros...RIP.
JeffPerrin
macrumors 6502a
That's what I miss most about my 5,1. I spent a LOT of time planning out the expansion and storage options for the Mac Studio last year when I finally retired my Mac Pro. Sadly, I do not expect 3rd-party peripherals and cables to be nearly as reliable as the Mac Pro was.
azentropy
macrumors 601
This isn't like when they discontinued the iPod. The Mac Pro hasn't been that relevant for ~13 years. I doubt many people care. 😉.
GuilleA
macrumors 6502
Exactly, yes. A sort of Mac Studio on a PCIe board sort of deal. I was just daydreaming, it makes little sense economically though. It's a very niche market for them.
Unless the logic board dies, or the power supply, there isn't much that can go wrong. Replacement power supplies and logic boards (and anything else) will be stocked by Apple repair centres until your Mac Pro is considered "vintage" which will happen 5 years after it was pulled from the lineup. That was 2023 so repairs will be guaranteed until mid to end of 2028.
After 2028 as remaining parts availibility dwindles Apple will replace these older devices with a recent model in a comparable configuration which would be the latest Mac Studio with the same memory and storage that your Mac Pro initially shipped with.
Rest assured that all the insurance premiums you paid for Applecare from 2019 until 2028 and beyond (and the deductible on top) will either be roughly equal to the cost of a new Mac Studio or higher. The only reason to keep paying for AC+ is for peace of mind to avoid any chances of an expensive brick. If you don't need that (and as the resale value of your Mac Pro keeps dropping) it might be better to cut your losses and save that money to buy a Mac Studio with.
You could also ask yourself whether you'd really use the M5 Ultra to make it worthwhile considering you can get your work done on a 2019 Xeon Mac Pro. You might find that a Macbook Pro with the M5 Max and the 128GiB/8TB configuration is plenty fast and fits in your backpack. I used to have a Mac Pro as well as various workstations and laptops and now that I replaced it with a maxed out M4 Macbook Pro I have no need or use for any desktop workstation anymore.
Non-Euclidean
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Funnily enough, Amazon was clearing out the wheels on Woot last week. I think $199 for a set of 4.
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Zdigital2015
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Huh…the writing has been on the wall since 2010. The 2012 was the smallest of refreshes. The 2013 was a redesign for who knows and they never once updated the CPU or GPU of the Trash Can in the 6 years it was produced. The 2019 was a beast, but they knew that Apple Silicon was going to surpass the Xeon-W and wouldn’t have ever released it if they had had their way. Apple gave the 2006-2012 Mac Pro crowd indicators for 13 years that the Mac Pro was going away…no one should be surprised.
I upgraded the hell out of my old 2010 Mac Pro. CPU's, Ram, HDDs to SSDs, GPU's even the Bluetooth and Wifi cards. At some point overkill. It was a rock solid work horse and fun project on its own for many years and with Bootcamp a solid game machine too. Sold it several years ago to get replaced by an M-chip Mac. Even though the writing was on the wall, it's the end of an era indeed.
Not if you need GPU power.
In fact, the 2019 Mac Pro still comes out on top as:
- Mac with the most possible RAM (1.5TB)
- Mac with the fastest available GPU (dual AMD 6900). This is still faster than the M3 Ultra.
And then the M2 Max Max pro Was the Mac with the most possible internal storage (since you could install additional SSDs).
With the Mac Pro gone, this clears the deck for the 32" iMac Pro I want to buy.....
OK. Why is Apple richer than all those REAL companies who chase after EVERY customer, though?