Apple Confirms Removing as Many as 25,000 Illegal Gambling-Related Apps From App Store in China

[MacRumors]

Apple today confirmed it has removed "many" illegal gambling apps, and developers distributing them, from its App Store in China.

The Wall Street Journal:

"Gambling apps are illegal and not allowed on the App Store in China," Apple said in a statement Monday. "We have already removed many apps and developers for trying to distribute illegal gambling apps on our App Store, and we are vigilant in our efforts to find these and stop them from being on the App Store."

Chinese state broadcaster CCTV said 25,000 apps have been removed as of Sunday--which would be less than two percent of the estimated 1.8 million apps on the App Store in the country--but Apple hasn't confirmed any numbers.

Apple began cracking down on gambling-related apps earlier this month, providing affected developers with the following explanation:

In order to reduce fraudulent activity on the App Store and comply with government requests to address illegal online gambling activity, we are no longer allowing gambling apps submitted by individual developers. The includes both real money gambling apps as well as apps that simulate a gambling experience.

As a result, this app has been removed from the App Store. While you can no longer distribute gambling apps from this account, you may continue to submit and distribute other types of apps to the App Store.

Apple notes that verified accounts from incorporated business entities may still submit gambling apps for distribution on the App Store.

MacRumors reported on Apple's crackdown on gambling-related apps in the App Store earlier this month, noting that some apps that have been banned as a result appear to have very little to do with gambling at all. Most of the apps have been removed from the App Store not only in China, but around the world.

Apple's move follows the Chinese state media scrutinizing the company earlier this month for allowing illegal content like gambling apps and spam messages to be distributed freely through the App Store and iMessage. As for the latter, Apple is reportedly working with Chinese carriers to reduce iMessage spam.

This isn't the first time Apple has catered to Chinese government demands. Last July, for example, the company removed VPN apps from the App Store in China. Six months prior, Apple pulled the The New York Times app in China.

"We would rather not remove apps, but like we do in other countries, we follow the law where we do business," said Apple CEO Tim Cook last year.

All of this comes amid growing tensions between the United States and China over trade.

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[1applerules1]

Gambling is for thots

 

[bollman]

Apple: We are the silver knight of personal freedom. Buy our stuff and we'll do our best to protect your information from anyone trying to access it!
China: Hey, we'll have none of that or you're out of here!
Apple: Whops, right, sorry, we'll fix that immediately. Here: We give you a little "something" for that sweet company of yours Didi as compensation. Anything else we can do for ya?
Chine: Yes, remove gambling apps, we do not like gambling apps. Also, we do not like iMessages, it's encrypted, we can't read what people are talking about, fix that too.
Apple: Right you are, we'll get cracking immediately.

 

[joelypolly]

I do hope they fix iMessage spam, it is damn annoying

 

[0947347]

Apple: We are the silver knight of personal freedom. Buy our stuff and we'll do our best to protect your information from anyone trying to access it!
China: Hey, we'll have none of that or you're out of here!
Apple: Whops, right, sorry, we'll fix that immediately. Here: We give you a little "something" for that sweet company of yours Didi as compensation. Anything else we can do for ya?
Chine: Yes, remove gambling apps, we do not like gambling apps. Also, we do not like iMessages, it's encrypted, we can't read what people are talking about, fix that too.
Apple: Right you are, we'll get cracking immediately.

Or how about this one

China: you all know we censor and that we read your messages and censoring news.

USA: ,,China abuses human rights, they are evil!” shouting US government, while illegally reading your messages and censoring news.
And if you sue them for doing illegal stuff, and, somehow manage to win, everything gets paid from tax payers money.
So you and all the people who objected against the government actions, still pay for it and nobody gets punished.

Great choices all around

And as for gambling online, whatever.
People who want to gamble will find some other way

 

[Markoth]

Or how about this one

China: you all know we censor and that we read your messages and censoring news.

USA: ,,China abuses human rights, they are evil!” shouting US government, while illegally reading your messages and censoring news.
And if you sue them for doing illegal stuff, and, somehow manage to win, everything gets paid from tax payers money.
So you and all the people who objected against the government actions, still pay for it and nobody gets punished.

Great choices all around

And as for gambling online, whatever.
People who want to gamble will find some other way

Like a lot of things, it's easy to blame the thing, instead of the person. Gambling is such a trivial thing to set up offline, the online version is just slightly more convenient. If a person wants to gamble, he will gamble. If anything, the online version poses less risk to the gambler. Some forms of offline gambling are quite dangerous.

 

[Cordorb]

I guess Everquest then will never be an Apple app

 

[0947347]

Like a lot of things, it's easy to blame the thing, instead of the person. Gambling is such a trivial thing to set up offline, the online version is just slightly more convenient. If a person wants to gamble, he will gamble. If anything, the online version poses less risk to the gambler. Some forms of offline gambling are quite dangerous.

I, sort of, thought, that you can use your money any way you like, as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. I would see hiring a hitman being a crime but putting coins in the slot machines (or similar forms like we have Pachinko here, in Japan) is just a silly choice by people.
If you know that the casino is owned by mafia, make it state owned and use the profits for public health and other helpful things, like they do in Finland (if I am not mistaken)

 

[jpn]

this is not so much anti-gambling, per se, but rather that the chinese government is attempting to be able to tax a higher percent of revenue from apps in general.
the statement from apple says: "we are no longer allowing gambling apps submitted by individual developers."
(bold emphasis added).

 

[gnasher729]

Also, we do not like iMessages, it's encrypted, we can't read what people are talking about, fix that too.
Apple: Right you are, we'll get cracking immediately.

Completely misrepresenting what is happening.

It seems that crooks in China have figured out how to send spam through iMessage. And since it is encrypted, you can't detect it is spam until the user reads it. That's what the Chinese government doesn't like, and I personally don't like it either. So they are trying to figure out what is spam and what is not. Which is a bit difficult, since Apple can't read the messages until _your_ phone decrypts them.

 

[Superhai]

I would see hiring a hitman being a crime but putting coins in the slot machines (or similar forms like we have Pachinko here, in Japan) is just a silly choice by people.

The issue with gambling is the addiction, where people put all their savings and even accrue loans to cover gambling debt. This has caused pain for relations and destroyed families, turning to crime to acquire more funds and in the worst cases suicide.

 

[Krizoitz]

Apple: We are the silver knight of personal freedom. Buy our stuff and we'll do our best to protect your information from anyone trying to access it!

Personal freedom != data privacy.

Apple has a stellar record on the latter, while the former, in regards to the App Store, has never been something they have claimed. Apple has curated the App Store since day 1, and limits content based on laws in every country. Most countries have laws which limit content that can legally be made available. Gambling is one of them in many places, not just China. Prohibiting online gambling is one of the least problematic things China has done. You or I may think it’s dumb (it’s probably actually beneficial given the dangers of gambling) but it’s hardly despotic. Now their policies on say political dissidents, THOSE are worth getting upset about.

 

[Henk Poley]

In the case of gambling I don't mind. It's set up for people to lose money. Good riddance. Please do the same elsewhere as well.

It's sort of a more nefarious 'laserpointer for cats' but for humans.

 

[gnasher729]

The issue with gambling is the addiction, where people put all their savings and even accrue loans to cover gambling debt. This has caused pain for relations and destroyed families, turning to crime to acquire more funds and in the worst cases suicide.

Unfortunately there are people who can’t prioritise between putting food on the table for the children and between gambling.

And with illegal gambling there is no control how the gambler is ripped off.

 

[bollman]

As I understood, it wasn't just apps that made it possible to gamble for real money, even "fictional" gambling is banned?

 

[HardRain]

So no more candy crush?

 

[Mathias Denichi]

They also disabled a bunch of apps, by accident, that had nothing to do with gambling.

 

[0947347]

The issue with gambling is the addiction, where people put all their savings and even accrue loans to cover gambling debt. This has caused pain for relations and destroyed families, turning to crime to acquire more funds and in the worst cases suicide.

You are talking about severe cases.
This way, one could argue that alcohol, cigarettes, fizzy drinks, pharmaceutical drugs are also highly addictive and should be made illegal. How about stock market? Many people failed there and lost all.

When will they ban alcohol? When will cigarettes will be illegal? When will they ban a sale of pharma drugs? When will they knock down Wall Street and jail all their gamblers.

Btw, knife is a deadly weapon.
Do you have a kitchen? Do you cook?
If yes, you are a potential murderer

In simple understanding, you can find daft enough people abusing anything. Or get abused by anything.

 

[69Mustang]

Apple notes that verified accounts from incorporated business entities may still submit gambling apps for distribution on the App Store.

People seem to be overlooking the fact that there's no prohibition against gambling... neither in China nor the App Store. Gambling apps can still be submitted. Sounds like it's a case of large, established gambling entities eliminating smaller unregulated competition through gov't regulation. This has nothing to do with concern over gambling addiction. Besides, you can't collect taxes on unregulated gambling. Taxes and the ability to collect them. I'd bet that's what defines "illegal" gambling.

 

[TheShadowKnows!]

In simple understanding, you can find daft enough people abusing anything. Or get abused by anything.

Like the internet./s

 

[magicschoolbus]

**** China.

Commie bastards.

 

[Plutonius]

What are the odds that they got them all ?

 

[gwaizai]

I bet they snuck a few thousand Winnie the Pooh apps in the removal too.

(Last week Disney's Winnie the Pooh was banned by Peking and classified as illegal content.)

 

[sentiblue]

What I don't get is... how did the gambling apps get approved into the appstore to begin with?
If a few slipped through I think it's OK, but thousands of them? Obviously app review process is not very good.

 

[fmalloy]

Apple: We are the silver knight of personal freedom. Buy our stuff and we'll do our best to protect your information from anyone trying to access it!

So now we've got a walled garden inside the walled garden.

Waiting for the mandatory government-written messaging, video, and email apps.

Apple. What a hypocritical company.