NO, Apple nor Stevie have confirmed anything...
Until then, stop making new useless uninformative unworthy unethical unrealistic threads.
Thanks!
Wow.
Someone needs to lay off the hash pipe.
NO, Apple nor Stevie have confirmed anything...
Until then, stop making new useless uninformative unworthy unethical unrealistic threads.
Thanks!
Here, let me enlighten you a bit.
unethical: not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; "unethical business practices or unethical forum posting/starting practices"
MacRumors has certain standards one needs to conform to.
Oh, okay ... we're all "enlightened" now.Here, let me enlighten you a bit...
MacRumors has certain standards one needs to conform to.
Yikes I didn't think I was "uninformative unworthy unethical unrealistic". Just was watching the keynote stream off MR and checking some news, seen the link pop up on MSNBC and didn't see or find it anywhere on MR. Just wanted to see if anyone heard anything.....I guess not. I dont know if I got your hopes up (iphone3gs16gb), but I sure am.... looking looking forward to a Verizon iphone, where I am at theres no othere service available and am a huge Apple fan. Will continue to wait and buy when its released.
Here, let me enlighten you a bit.
unethical: not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; "unethical business practices or unethical forum posting/starting practices"
MacRumors has certain standards one needs to conform to.
Your wasting your time buddy.
Apple approached them first, they denied them.
Its their own fault.
Have fun waiting though![]()
I will, while I enjoy every other product they offer!! I just don't understand why I was uninformative unworthy unethical unrealistic for asking it? I am excited to one day own an iphone along with many other Apple people. I have followed the iphone from the start along with many other macrumor users, and just hoping for more inovative products, including a CDMA iphone, and for them to keep pushing their stock prices through the roof. GO APPLE!
Listen, it's NOT Apple...
I don't think you've grasped anything I've mentioned.
APPLE (when I say Apple, I mean the big man Stevie-O and gang) went directly to Verizon, to basically tell them of their next big thing, a phone,ok, you following me here?
Verizon didn't want to carry the iPhone because of Apple's rigorous control over the product and because they never got to see the phone in the first place.
Verizon basically said F you Steve...
Apple then went to Cingular (now AT&T), explained the situation, and they accepted to Apple's terms.
You see?
It never was Apple, it was Verizon.
What on earth in that quoted post were you responding to? I think you must have misread the post.
I will, while I enjoy every other product they offer!! I just don't understand why I was uninformative unworthy unethical unrealistic for asking it? I am excited to one day own an iphone along with many other Apple people. I have followed the iphone from the start along with many other macrumor users, and just hoping for more inovative products, including a CDMA iphone, and for them to keep pushing their stock prices through the roof. GO APPLE!
Did you get that?
I think you misread the post...
Listen, it's NOT Apple...
I don't think you've grasped anything I've mentioned.
APPLE (when I say Apple, I mean the big man Stevie-O and gang) went directly to Verizon, to basically tell them of their next big thing, a phone,ok, you following me here?
Verizon didn't want to carry the iPhone because of Apple's rigorous control over the product and because they never got to see the phone in the first place.
Verizon basically said F you Steve...
Apple then went to Cingular (now AT&T), explained the situation, and they accepted to Apple's terms.
You see?
It never was Apple, it was Verizon.
I'm so glad we have such a high ranking Apple employee on this forum. Your knowledge of the inside operations at Apple makes others envious. Perhaps you are a board member? You are a direct report to Steve himself and he tells you everything going on?
In fact now that I think of it, we apparently have several high ranking Apple employees and/or people with strong personal connections to the CEO of Apple.
I'm pretty sure Steve posts here himself as well. I keep seeing him say "There will be no Verizon iPhone...period."
ericg301 said:looks like they had the page all ready to go...just in case SJ made that little bit of news today.
FIRST!
Apple approached them first, they denied them.
"Cingular and Apple may be fast-moving technology companies, but they took their time putting the iPhone deal together. Officials of the two companies began discussions nearly two years ago, in February 2005. They quickly agreed that they should work together on a phone project, but there were far-reaching conversations and brainstorms about what the product should be.
"They considered an Apple-branded mobile phone service that would piggyback on the Cingular network, but rejected the idea. Then, a year ago, they settled on the final concept, an Apple- made phone for subscribers to Cingular, which is owned by AT&T.
"Details of the negotiations and partnership were provided in interviews with Lurie of Cingular and Eddy Cue, a vice president of Apple who is in charge of its iTunes service and oversaw the relationship on Apple's end. They said they had spoken nearly every workday over the past two years and had, above all, one mandate: to maintain secrecy." - NY Times, Jan 2007
Apple didn't approach Verizon first. That's just a common internet myth. It doesn't even make sense.
Apple didn't approach Verizon until mid 2005... with no detailed plans or prototypes... and reportedly as an additional carrier, not the sole one.
Even as the ROKR went into production, Jobs was realizing he'd have to build his own phone. In February 2005, he got together with Cingular to discuss a Motorola-free partnership. At the top-secret meeting in a midtown Manhattan hotel, Jobs laid out his plans before a handful of Cingular senior execs, including Sigman. (When AT&T acquired Cingular in December 2006, Sigman remained president of wireless.) Jobs delivered a three-part message to Cingular: Apple had the technology to build something truly revolutionary, "light-years ahead of anything else." Apple was prepared to consider an exclusive arrangement to get that deal done. But Apple was also prepared to buy wireless minutes wholesale and become a de facto carrier itself.
I also want to point out that many people have forgotten (or didn't know) that Apple collaborated with Motorola and Cingular back in 2004/05 to make an "iTunes Phone," the Rokr (later followed by the Slvr and Razr v3).
And it failed miserably, partly because Apple had forced Motorola to cripple it with a 100 song limit, in order to protect iPod sales. It was typical bad design by committee, and he knew it.
So much so, that the video of Jobs introducing the so-called "iTunes phone", is often cited as an example of what people's faces look like when holding a dead rat.
As for Verizon not being excited over an Apple phone, who can blame them. Back then, Apple was hit and miss. At the time, their idea of a smartphone must've sounded very undesirable:
- A company with no phone experience.
- All ringtone sales profits to go to Apple.
- No sales through other outlets.
- No customer subsidy allowed.
- No insurance allowed.
- iTunes and computer needed.
- No third party apps.
- Little Bluetooth support.
- No GPS.
- No 3G.