Apple confusing users?

Tech198

macrumors G5
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Mar 21, 2011
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Since OS X is now available on the Mac App Store since Lion, all seems good by the fact you "can user this downloaded copy on all your Macs" and the same works with any app bought,

This holds true as long as you don't have a pre-intslled version of OS X.

In this instance you are unable to download from the Mac App Store, which is probably why instructions are only you can take it from the Restore Image (haven't tried this), sometimes Apple obviously wouldn't let you do from their standpoint.

Since the pre-instlalled copy is tied to the hardware, prevents you from downloading from the Mac App Store (for backup purposes, later reinstallation on new hard drive).

Of course, the other way round this would be if you already had a mac with Lion or Mountain Lion (not pre-installed) but downloaded from the App Store, and create a USB flash drive, take it take to the original Mac to install if needed.

Does anyone seems its strange that anything downloaded from the STore is Free to use on any Mac.... that is, all BUT the pre-install software ?

Furthermore to this, since iPhone, iMovie apps are pre installed, and the user DOES get a downloaded copy, or by restore image, you can basically re-download iPhoto/iMovie/garageband for FREE afterwards if the user needs them. :apple:
 

itickings

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Apr 14, 2007
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well, at least one user is obviously confused ;)

Let's see...

If you bought a version of OS X (say Mountain Lion) from the Mac App Store, you know that all your compatible Macs can run that version (Mountain Lion) one way or another.

If you didn't buy it from the Mac App Store, only the Macs that were delivered with that version will be running it.

Is that really so confusing? Or have I been dealing with licensing far too long? It is not like you could buy a new Mac with the latest OS and expect to upgrade your other Macs even back when optical media was used...

Regarding new hard drives - Internet Recovery should handle new hard drives perfectly fine.
 

50548

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Apr 17, 2005
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i dont think your buying the licence when its pre-installed that might be the difference
We have already explained this elsewhere: as per the Apple's EULA, PRE-INSTALLED OS X licenses do NOT give a user the right to install the system in other computers. You WILL have to buy it again for any other installation purpose. And if you want to re-install it in the computer where ML was pre-installed, just do a Cmd-R and use the recovery disk.

Is that clear enough?
 

heisenberg123

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Oct 31, 2010
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We have already explained this elsewhere: as per the Apple's EULA, PRE-INSTALLED OS X licenses do NOT give a user the right to install the system in other computers. You WILL have to buy it again for any other installation purpose. And if you want to re-install it in the computer where ML was pre-installed, just do a Cmd-R and use the recovery disk.

Is that clear enough?
why you quoting my i just said the same thing with less words
 

MisterMe

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Jul 17, 2002
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We have already explained this elsewhere: as per the Apple's EULA, PRE-INSTALLED OS X licenses do NOT give a user the right to install the system in other computers. You WILL have to buy it again for any other installation purpose. And if you want to re-install it in the computer where ML was pre-installed, just do a Cmd-R and use the recovery disk.

Is that clear enough?
This is not really a EULA issue. The OS that ships with a new Mac is tied that that specific model Mac. The grey System Restore DVD included in the shipping box was designed to restore that specific model Mac to its as shipped state. You cannot use a grey System Restore DVD to install the OS willy-nilly. You can use it to reinstall the OS only on computers of the same specific model that shipped with the DVD.

So the iisforiphone is kvetching that he cannot do something now that he was never able to do. MacOS X 10.7 and MacOS X 10.8 cost $25 at the Mac App Store. If you don't run Linux, these are the best buys in OS software. I have zero sympathy for iisforiphone.
 

sidewinder

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So the iisforiphone is kvetching that he cannot do something now that he was never able to do. MacOS X 10.7 and MacOS X 10.8 cost $25 at the Mac App Store. If you don't run Linux, these are the best buys in OS software. I have zero sympathy for iisforiphone.
iisforiphone is not complaining about anything. Instead of throwing Yiddish words around, you might want to read what people write...

S-
 

50548

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Apr 17, 2005
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This is not really a EULA issue. The OS that ships with a new Mac is tied that that specific model Mac. The grey System Restore DVD included in the shipping box was designed to restore that specific model Mac to its as shipped state. You cannot use a grey System Restore DVD to install the OS willy-nilly. You can use it to reinstall the OS only on computers of the same specific model that shipped with the DVD.

So the iisforiphone is kvetching that he cannot do something now that he was never able to do. MacOS X 10.7 and MacOS X 10.8 cost $25 at the Mac App Store. If you don't run Linux, these are the best buys in OS software. I have zero sympathy for iisforiphone.
It IS a EULA issue because it says so - the fact that it is linked to a model is just a technicality just like System Enablers in OS 7 and earlier.

And what the hell is "kvetching"? I thought we were supposed to speak English in this forum, not some invented dialect.
 

heisenberg123

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Oct 31, 2010
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Hamilton, Ontario
This is not really a EULA issue. The OS that ships with a new Mac is tied that that specific model Mac. The grey System Restore DVD included in the shipping box was designed to restore that specific model Mac to its as shipped state. You cannot use a grey System Restore DVD to install the OS willy-nilly. You can use it to reinstall the OS only on computers of the same specific model that shipped with the DVD.

So the iisforiphone is kvetching that he cannot do something now that he was never able to do. MacOS X 10.7 and MacOS X 10.8 cost $25 at the Mac App Store. If you don't run Linux, these are the best buys in OS software. I have zero sympathy for iisforiphone.
lol what did i say?
 

talmy

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Oct 26, 2009
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Furthermore to this, since iPhone, iMovie apps are pre installed, and the user DOES get a downloaded copy, or by restore image, you can basically re-download iPhoto/iMovie/garageband for FREE afterwards if the user needs them. :apple:
I'm going to toss some mud at this. You can only download the latest release of these programs. I purchased iMovie from the App Store back before Lion, the current version is Lion & Mountain Lion only and won't download or install on my Snow Leopard systems. Apple says I'm out of luck. Always make a backup copy of anything you buy in the App Store because you may not be able to download it again in the future!