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Just like the iDevices which have proven to be wildly successful.



Yes. The next 4 years are sure to let us know just how this sector pans out. Is power saving worth more than brute force?

Really successful, and something tells me that they want more success!!! And they will not release something that doesn't satisfy them first and only us later!!!
 
Apple could easy start with a hybrid solution (I think those ideas got discussed here in the past) where for simple task (browser, email, Facebook, twitter, ...) an octa-ARM could drive a machine like a 21.5" iMac. That's give the little "i" a new meaning.
For when you need more power you boot the i5/i7 variant of "classic" iMac to render your movies or rip them.

And after a short cycle of tranistion the dual hardware will remain in the BTO (iMac Pro) variants and the iMac is a member of iDevice-familiy.
Easy to add a 14"iPad to cover the laptop needs.

Yes, 25% of user need more power; most not. And the software infrastructure is flexible enough today to cross compile against a standard API for different platforms. It's nothing new.

It's called evolution.
 
I don't understand all the vitriol. I think this is great news. What's wrong with going back to the way things were with the Mac?

Because when they switched to Intel they did so because it had the performance and the power efficiency. The consumer benefited. ARM is nowhere near as powerful...not even close.. and if they do this, it will be for Apple and Apple alone.
 
Have you seen Windows 8?

Yes, it is excellent. Of course it is "Windows". With a Mac a noob can take the thing out of the box, turn it on and begin learning the system. Maybe later check out the helpful hints on Mac websites or view Apple's excellent video tutorials.

Not so fast with Windows, especially when Windows 8's desktop is hidden behind Metro and the start button has been removed. It took a few trips to pcworld.com et al in order to get a grip on the thing. Windows is not for everybody but if a user wants a very powerful, reasonably priced, customizable desktop there are lots of Windows alternatives to a Mac Pro.
 
Obviously iDevices are not Macs. And most people do not like them either - Apple has just 15% share in smart phones quickly approaching that of the Macs (6% worldwide)

And that's a Lot of money for a single company.

This could be the end of Apple (and if they do it, good riddance at that). Time to move back to Windows, I think. I'd like to NOT repeat the BS software abandonment I got with my PowerPC Mac (and which seems to be standard fare with iOS devices).

It seems Apple is less interested in computers and maintaining a useful and complex software base and more interested in toys with short, limited lifespans that are more or less disposable so they can keep selling you newer versions every year. Odd how they claim to be a more "green" company when they keep making their iOS devices ever more disposable with shorter and shorter useful lifespans by not supporting software updates on devices much older than 2 years, something unheard of with traditional computers in the past and completely unnecessary since most traditional apps simply don't need anywhere near the updated CPU power levels we're talking about and thus it's just a landfill WASTE. But then they proved that with batteries that cannot be changed by the user for no reason other than they want to "encourage" you to buy a newer device instead of a newer battery.

Right now, I can run Windows and OSX on the same machine and buy games on Steam and get both OS versions even, but change that ability and suddenly the Macintosh doesn't look so appealing anymore. It's obvious that Apple hopes to eventually merge the iOS and OSX lines (as I predicted several years ago) and most of their worthless OSX "upgrades" the past two years have been pushing in that direction despite what so many rabid fans claim to the contrary (and despite pointless thin 'upgrades' to the iMac that all point to them brainwashing you to accept them as one and the same device at some point).

Thus, one day you will find your iMac is just an iPad and that POWER USERS will be using another line of computers entirely. Imagine a world where criminals have computers that are 10-100x or more faster than what "typical consumers" use in the form of glorified iPads and the chaos that will inevitably ensue as the balance of power changes entirely. Oh poo on those horrible desktops. They're SOOOO unwieldy! My pocket iWallet is SO much better! What! My iWallet is empty! What happened!?!? (camera pan to snickering bad guy in the apartment next door who remotely hacked it).

"I'll move back to Windows". A common refrain from those in the Tech community that are burnt out and want to return to the familiar confines of Microsoft's disjointed OS. Many people proclaim they're power users but in truth they are imprisoned. Fear of change has many of you sounding like relics. I watch 7 year olds play on and iPad and I smile because someday they will see the world for what it is. Full of opportunity and new challenges and they will replace all of us ...clinging and clutching to nostalgic computer remnants.
 
Yes, it is excellent. Of course it is "Windows". With a Mac a noob can take the thing out of the box, turn it on and begin learning the system. Maybe later check out the helpful hints on Mac websites or view Apple's excellent video tutorials.

Not so fast with Windows, especially when Windows 8's desktop is hidden behind Metro and the start button has been removed.

Yup. Win8 isn't at all terrible. Once you get used to it, it's actually better than 7 in a lot of ways. Getting used to it is the key phrase here, because until you do, it's obtuse as hell.

THE MINIMALISM IS FANTASTIC!

...where's my stuff?
 
This rumor bubbles up every fours months or so then it dies. There is absolutely no chance that Apple CPUs could reach the performance of the best Intel CPUs in the next 10 years. What may happen is that Apple could support both ARM and Intel CPUs with ARM CPUs used in the cheap low performance models. This can not happen overnight either. Give them 3 to 5 years.

On the other hand, in 5 years low power Intel CPUs will probably consume less power than ARM CPUs with the same performance. The only benefit for Apple to use their own CPUs then would be to save costs. On the other hands, PC laptops with Intel CPUs would then have better battery life at the same performance level.
 
Because when they switched to Intel they did so because it had the performance and the power efficiency. The consumer benefited. ARM is nowhere near as powerful...not even close.. and if they do this, it will be for Apple and Apple alone.

Nay

It'll be for the next architecture to last a decade. Is anyone here really satisfied with Intel's rationing of clock speed and sad GPU updates? Each successive architecture gets a bit nicer but it's anything but mind blowing.

The next big thing isn't coming from Intel.
 
Did they have a " worst idea contest" at Apple??? If so this will surely be the winner.

+1

At the least they want to irate every customer segment/demography. Every week they are doing something to loose portion of loyal fans.

Next announcement will be "Apple's next generation MacBook to run on iOS". Adios OS X.
 
This rumor bubbles up every fours months or so then it dies. There is absolutely no chance that Apple CPUs could reach the performance of the best Intel CPUs in the next 10 years. What may happen is that Apple could support both ARM and Intel CPUs with ARM CPUs used in the cheap low performance models. This can not happen overnight either. Give them 3 to 5 years.

I'm gobsmacked that you even have the audacity to think you know what's coming in 5 years let alone 10. Where does this delusion of grandeur come from?
 
Yep. Servers in closets and clouds will still exist, of course, but most people will have stopped buying "PC" for home and business use.

We've already crossed the point where most computing is now NOT done on laptops/desktops. It's done on phones and tablets. So I don't even consider my statement a prediction, I consider it a simple acknowledgement of what is already clearly happening.

Got tired of waiting, so I call your second statement bulls**t.

The Iphone 4S can do about 5,000 MIPS, a Intel Core i7 2600K can do about 128,300 MIPS, thus 25 times a many. A Pentium 4 Extreme Edition from 2003 does about 10,000 MIPS, twice as many as the iPhone 4S.

Anyway, considering your prediction, I'm not sure why I bother...
 
By the time usable chips are available desktop pcs will be long dead.... and laptops on the way out too.

Apple products all using iOS??? That would suck. I love my Mac OS. I actually don't like the iOS type interfaces creeping into the Mac OS. Keep them separate. They can co-exist as a team but don't join them into one OS.
 
The Iphone 4S can do about 5,000 MIPS, a Intel Core i7 2600K can do about 128,300 MIPS, thus 25 times a many. A Pentium 4 Extreme Edition from 2003 does about 10,000 MIPS, twice as many as the iPhone 4S.

You're beating on a straw man.

Have fun with that.
 
In related news: "Apple Considering Moving Away from Classic "Personal Computer" Design, focussing on more single-purpose hardware-software-optimised devices (like iPad, iPhone, PS 3, Xbox 360, etc.)

And why not?

None of the items you listed are single-purpose.
 
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