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is it possible Apple is now working on the beginings of the new era of OS - OS 11/ iOS 11/ iOS X/ aka the unibody OS that runs on macs and mobile devices?

perhaps they are at the point where they were when going with OS X -

whats the ' Just in Case' scenario here?

apple might be trying to figure out a consistent Code that unifies the os x and ios together, thats designed as one, needs a processor(s) that will support that idea.
 
the reason why apple are anti Disc drives is obvious to me:

discs are the source of buying media outside of itunes:

Music
Movies
Apps
TV Shows


if Apple wanted you to use CD's they wouldn't have digital stores.

they want you to buy from their stores.

why didn't apple go blu-ray? because thats sony's, and apple don't want to spend money. and as far as apple is concerned, whats the point of having its consumers watch and buy blu-rays, if they are trying to keep happy deals with their content providers (studios) and their own monetary interests by selling you Digital HD content?

that in my opinion, is the anti DISC media moves by apple. nobody wants thinner iMacs, they are just designed to perform worse when it comes to temperature and being ventilated for performance.

you notice apple finding any good way to market an iMac as 'new light and thin'? besides showing a side angle image of its thinness? not really because it makes no sense. oh i want the new iMAC! because now i can carry it portably around easier, its so much lighter, its so much easier to hold because its thin. jony ive can't say "when using the New iMac, the user wont experience the difference but will certainly benef- oh, no. no..



no.

I have two DVD+RW drives in my Mac Pro, and I very rarely use them. Also, remember the other source of media: the rest of the Internet. As much as I prefer CDs for their superior quality and lower price, I have to say that very few people use them, and optical media is dying out.

By the way, I am not in support of the new iMac design. The bulging on the back just looks stupid, and thinness isn't even really a good thing for a desktop computer. I still love the iMac G5 design.
 
YAY! (maybe?)

...I ♥ PPC :D...

Seriously, this could be really cool. It would be awesome to have a choice in processors - maybe they could offer Intel (or compatible) along with other designs; maybe PPC on the big iron.

I know that this is unlikely.
 
You do realise that ARM isn't Apple's own chips, they are a British company who Apple have worked closely with for a number of years and at one point had a share in them but don't at the moment. And before anyone says it, they Apple won't be able to buy out ARM.

A6 chip is designed by Apple, they are just using the ARM instruction set. They have a rare license to do so. Most other ARM chip manufacturers are using pre-designed cores they buy from ARM.
 
...I ♥ PPC :D...

OK, I've been using Macs since the PPC era, and I don't see why anyone would like PPC better. Sure it's easier to code for PPC if you're using assembly language, but PPCs were relatively slow and power-consuming. Plus, WINE, VirtualBox, and Bootcamp wouldn't work.

The iMac G5 was one of the big PPC disasters. I have that machine sitting in my treehouse. What a piece of turd worthless unreliable clunky lemon... with the best exterior/interior iMac design ever made.
 
I have two DVD+RW drives in my Mac Pro, and I very rarely use them. Also, remember the other source of media: the rest of the Internet. As much as I prefer CDs for their superior quality and lower price, I have to say that very few people use them, and optical media is dying out.

By the way, I am not in support of the new iMac design. The bulging on the back just looks stupid, and thinness isn't even really a good thing for a desktop computer. I still love the iMac G5 design.

i agree, i don't have a problem with taking out Disc media from machines, aslong as they support external ones always, because i will continue to have physical media for sometime.

but the point is, Phil schiller said some bs that people don't want Blu-Ray, which is BS. its APPLE that doesnt want blu-ray. always been that way. Apple, wants - You! you. you to buy iTunes.

phil schiller said blu-ray is a poor technology as an excuse, which is utter BS again. so what if apple can come up with a better technology than blu-ray for content? here is the two facts - 1. they arent interested in disc media, they are selling itunes not physical media. 2. they've had cd's and dvd's in macs for years until now, their itunes media has always been there too, they've been able to produce technology better than dvd but still ship it.

apple should just keep their mouth shut about decisions, not make up bs excuses like that about blu-ray.

i share the same feelings as you about the new imac design, the back is ugly, looks like the imac has gone hunchback style. where as the imac design for the last 5 years - sleek flat back design, looked stunning. the imac never needed to be much thinner, and definitely not lighter in volume. they shouldve just made it thinner and considered the heat in the space.
 
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The switch to Intel CPUs gave Apple the biggest boost in PC sales in decades.

That booster has burnt out.

PC sales are dying and Mac sales are now essentially on a flat trajectory. That's not where the growth market is.

For every PC sale lost to the fewer and fewer people tied to x86 applications, Apple might pick up more than one selling some sort of air-ipad hybrid. Apple may well be able to sell far more product and make more money by blowing off everybody here who says a non-x86 laptop is useless to them.

Developers drive applications. The action for developers is now more in cloud, Linux, web, mobile, Android and iOS development. Not x86/desktop anymore. Even the MS RT is headed in that direction.
 
A6 chip is designed by Apple, they are just using the ARM instruction set. They have a rare license to do so. Most other ARM chip manufacturers are using pre-designed cores they buy from ARM.

It's not a rare thing, and I don't believe any of the ARM using manufacturers go the base design. From what little I know about it, the most commonly used schematic is Tegra 3, which was built by Nvidia.

Maybe Snapdragon too, but I don't know much about it at all.
 
the reason why apple are anti Disc drives is obvious to me:

discs are the source of buying media outside of itunes:

Music
Movies
Apps
TV Shows


if Apple wanted you to use CD's they wouldn't have digital stores.

they want you to buy from their stores.

why didn't apple go blu-ray? because thats sony's, and apple don't want to spend money. and as far as apple is concerned, whats the point of having its consumers watch and buy blu-rays, if they are trying to keep happy deals with their content providers (studios) and their own monetary interests by selling you Digital HD content?

that in my opinion, is the anti DISC media moves by apple. nobody wants thinner iMacs, they are just designed to perform worse when it comes to temperature and being ventilated for performance.

you notice apple finding any good way to market an iMac as 'new light and thin'? besides showing a side angle image of its thinness? not really because it makes no sense. oh i want the new iMAC! because now i can carry it portably around easier, its so much lighter, its so much easier to hold because its thin. jony ive can't say "when using the New iMac, the user wont experience the difference but will certainly benef- oh, no. no..



no.

I don't even own a Mac. I have a PC with Windows 8 Pro and I haven't used my CD drive in nearly two years.

All my content has been purchased online. So no, I don't think Apple is trying to force anyone to use iTunes. They're just ahead of the curve.
 
That booster has burnt out.

PC sales are dying and Mac sales are now essentially on a flat trajectory. That's not where the growth market is.

You know, after hearing about the PC dying, I decided to go out and look at the 2011-2012 PC sales charts to see just how badly it's dying.

This is a rough guesstimation on what I remember, but last year, PC sales numbered 350,000,000. Not bad. This year, they were something like 335,000,000. Lower? Yes. Dying? No. If it continues this trend for the next 5-10 years, you might have a point, but a 15,000,000 loss out of 350,000,000 isn't enough to build a case around.

The biggest problem PC manufacturers have isn't that they're supporting a dying platform, rather that people don't have much reason to upgrade every year.
 
The important word is "considering"

Nothing is carved in stone, and nothing is going to happen overnight. People that are panicking need to calm down.
 
I don't even own a Mac. I have a PC with Windows 8 Pro and I haven't used my CD drive in nearly two years.

All my content has been purchased online. So no, I don't think Apple is trying to force anyone to use iTunes. They're just ahead of the curve.

itunes HD content isn't better than blu-ray.

itunes music content, is not better quality than the CD.

i go to amazon, i buy an album, used, cost about £1.50. itunes = £6-7.50 at least. cheaper, better quality. i only wanted one song, but i got the whole album for probably about double the price of the one song i wanted from itunes.

i put it in my itunes using my DVD drive.

i do the same with my blu-ray movies. i get better quality, and many people still like physical media.

people who buy from itunes, or don't use their computer for media consumption/hub, are the ones that are ahead of the curve?

for me, i got better value for money.

for apple, because of the CD drive, have lost about £6 - 15 per film from me, and £4.99 - 9.99 per album.
 
Seems to be penty enough for all the other shops who produce high powered workstations to move to Intel's latest and greatest.

The only reason the Mac Pro hasn't been updated is because Apple doesn't want to update the Mac Pro.

WRONG!

The only reason Apple hasn't updated the Mac Pro is because there isn't a solid enough platform yet to replace the current Mac Pro line. Wait until the next Intel workstation chipset (and compatible CPU) which fully support 6+ cores with USB 3 and Thunderbolt - then you'll see the new Mac Pro.

As it stands, there's no reason the power of the current MacPro's would really hold anyone up. You can also drop in higher end nVidia cards, with available OSX drivers.

The people commenting on the Mac Pro being doomed either don't own a MacPro or they do own one, and aren't REALLY using it to its full potential.

Again... this is a rumour. However, I don't see why Apple wouldn't toy with the idea of alternate processors and in-house development. I don't see Apple as being stupid... and they certainly know that if they kill their professional machines, the professionals who also develop for the iOS and OSX ecosystem will also perish. Hell, even Microsoft knows it's all about "DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS" ;)

Smarten up boys.
 
I know this is unlikely, but maybe Apple can work one on one with intel and ARM to develop a chip that has the performances of an intel chip, the efficiency of an ARM architecture, and the ability to run the programs of both......if any company in the world could do it, it would be Apple. I believe that if a chip that was the best of both worlds it would be a huge hit, plus it would give ARm an edge in the PC industry, and intel an edge in the mobile industry. I know its optimistic but i would gladly be the one to work to lead the charge should the capabilities be given to me.
 
I think people are underestimating Intel's process advantage, their ability to execute, and the talent of their engineers/architects when it comes to designing a desktop application processor.
 
I'm sure this isn't the case....

I'm certain that Apple isn't considering seriously dropping intel - not unless they buy AMD (which they could get for around $5Bn easily enough). The x86 architecture isn't likely to be licensed to anyone apart from AMD again. Apple owes most of its Mac growth and success to the move to intel architecture. Its incredibly important to many business users to be able to use virtualization technology to run Intel based applications.
 
I know this is unlikely, but maybe Apple can work one on one with intel and ARM to develop a chip that has the performances of an intel chip, the efficiency of an ARM architecture, and the ability to run the programs of both......if any company in the world could do it, it would be Apple. I believe that if a chip that was the best of both worlds it would be a huge hit, plus it would give ARm an edge in the PC industry, and intel an edge in the mobile industry. I know its optimistic but i would gladly be the one to work to lead the charge should the capabilities be given to me.

your idealism reeks of youth.
 
Who exactly does "absolutely need processing power"?
With more and more people accessing the internet on low-powered tablets and phones, fewer and fewer people do.

Oh you know, pretty much everyone who uses a computer for more than very light casual gaming and internet browsing.

IT Professionals
Scientists
Engineers
Developers
Finance
Architecture
Graphic design
Animation
Video editing
Music production
Photographers
Gamers
the list goes on and on and on...

You know, no one important could possibly want CPU power, except maybe all those creative people that Apple has been saying for the last three decades are their core demographic.
 
itunes HD content isn't better than blu-ray.

itunes music content, is not better quality than the CD.

i go to amazon, i buy an album, used, cost about £1.50. itunes = £6-7.50 at least. cheaper, better quality. i only wanted one song, but i got the whole album for probably about double the price of the one song i wanted from itunes.

i put it in my itunes using my DVD drive.

i do the same with my blu-ray movies. i get better quality, and many people still like physical media.

people who buy from itunes, or don't use their computer for media consumption/hub, are the ones that are ahead of the curve?

for me, i got better value for money.

for apple, because of the CD drive, have lost about £6 - 15 per film from me, and £4.99 - 9.99 per album.

Then buy an external or get a PC.
 
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