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no more bootcamp?

Windows runs on ARM now too, you may still get a bootcamp. I think Apple has to wait for a 64bit ARM though. However with Microsoft onboard now, this will make it easier for ARM to improve there technology and Apple to transition to ARM. Intel needs to have a serious evolution in computing power and power consumption otherwise they will get left behind.
 
Steve was the one that said We've got 1000 engineers making chips

Steve was likely the biggest proponent of moving off of Intel. Steve only used someone until they were no longer beneficial. Intel's usefulness will be at its nadir in about 4 years.

And what proof do you have of that? Good feelings?

Apple producing it's own components would be like some little old lady who makes wicker baskets buying a lumber company to get her raw materials cheaper, and buys a trucking company to get things delivered to her quicker.

I mean sure, she probably saves $30 per order on materials, but that's offset by the fact that she now has to run a ****ing lumber and trucking company just to make wicker baskets.

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Intel needs to have a serious evolution in computing power and power consumption otherwise they will get left behind.

If the rumors are true...
 
So am I to understand that you'd rather be using PPC?

I can still remember the angst that the rumours of a switch to intel generated.

It's crazy that there are so many Luddites on a mac technology and rumours forum.

I'd rather see Apple open that old PowerPC code so other people who are interested to take a crack at making emulation environments to support legacy programs/formats/etc. Ditto would go with a Intel to ARM move. Computers are getting fast enough each cycle that 'faking' hardware thats 10 or 15 years old is quite doable.
 
And what proof do you have of that? Good feelings?

Apple producing it's own components would be like some little old lady who makes wicker baskets buying a lumber company to get her raw materials cheaper, and buys a trucking company to get things delivered to her quicker.

I mean sure, she probably saves $30 per order on materials, but that's offset by the fact that she now has to run a ****ing lumber and trucking company just to make wicker baskets.

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If the rumors are true...

Well said and mean while she can't run either the lumber or trucking company well.
 
Windows runs on ARM now too, you may still get a bootcamp. I think Apple has to wait for a 64bit ARM though. However with Microsoft onboard now, this will make it easier for ARM to improve there technology and Apple to transition to ARM. Intel needs to have a serious evolution in computing power and power consumption otherwise they will get left behind.

meh, I don't care about power consumption in my desktop... I want computing power.

Intel gives computing power... not ARM
 
No way. A full x86 compatibility is a must. Besides power. Intel power. No toy-like ARM power.
 
Except I don't run Linux to run Linux, I run it to support and develop for x86-64 Linux servers. I don't run Windows to run Windows, I use it to support and develop for x86-64 Windows machines. So running on a different architecture wouldn't be helpful.

this.
 
advice....

Correct me if im wrong,

but wouldnt 3 A6X prosessors running alongside each other like the mac pro's have dual processors, give more speed graphics and better battery life than the current i5 in my 13inch 2012?

apple aren't stupid, im sure they will pull something out of the bag that is amazing,
maybe the slimness of the retina mbp is in preparation for a much cooler and less battery hungry system?

personally i would love a fold out keyboard and a projected screen as portable as a phone, and as useful as my laptop. i know its some years off but.... every step...

apple can go for it if they want, if you dont like dont buy.
 
Not again. Remember When you decided to drop Google Maps and make your own? How did that turn out?

I cannot believe that you are not able to look any further than the immediate present. Wait a few years and then ask Google how it turned out shafting Apple?
 
*Yawn!* Same procedure as last time Apple transitioned... Everyone here claims to know better than Apple engineers and management with direct access to facts and figures. Yes - Apple MAY fail, but they may as well be on the forefront of upcoming technology trends. Again.
 
Break out the champagne glasses and lets celebrate the revival of their computer line and full OSX. The day this happens I will be at the local Apple store waiting first in line dancing and singing "ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked X86 witch is dead." Please Apple don't fick it up you want to be the king, the drop the baggage known as X86, stop being a pc maker and being Apple again when it comes to computers, that isn't your iOS line.
 
Windows 8 runs on ARM as WinRT, so in theory you would still be able to virtualize Windows on a Mac that comes equipped with an ARM-based chip.

All that said, I think Apple would potentially lose a lot more than they would gain from this transition. I supposed we'll see what improvements ARM makes going forward.
 
Break out the champagne glasses and lets celebrate the revival of their computer line and full OSX. The day this happens I will be at the local Apple store waiting first in line dancing and singing "ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked X86 witch is dead." Please Apple don't fick it up you want to be the king, the drop the baggage known as X86, stop being a pc maker and being Apple again when it comes to computers, that isn't your iOS line.
What?

ARM doesn't come remotely close to the performance of x86 for actual computers.
 
Break out the champagne glasses and lets celebrate the revival of their computer line and full OSX. The day this happens I will be at the local Apple store waiting first in line dancing and singing "ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked X86 witch is dead." Please Apple don't fick it up you want to be the king, the drop the baggage known as X86, stop being a pc maker and being Apple again when it comes to computers, that isn't your iOS line.

You know, Coldmack. A processor isn't the "spirit" of a computer, it's the engine. If a better engine is more capable than your old, far preferred engine, why hate it at all? Why replace it with one that's worse simply because it's "different"?
 
I can't stress this enough...IT WOULD BE MONUMENTALLY STUPID.

Moving to Intel was the smartest move Apple could have made for the Mac line. The advantages far out weighted the conversion.

I don't think the public truly understands how important the CPU is when it comes to your applications. Sure Windows runs on ARM but it will fail because your favorite app has to be recompiled to run on ARM.

Windows RT flaunts Office but the apps people really use will have to be recompiled and I'm sure purchased again.

Rosetta worked (sorta) because the Intel CPU was pretty fast to emulate the PPC (though slowly). ARM could not handle Rosetta because it is ARM. It sacrifices number crunching for battery life.

You want to kill the Macs growth? Kill the Intel CPUs and go ARM.

I would never buy another MBP if this happened.


-P
 
So, this may also mean i'll never upgrade again .......

(who would have thunk it)

But but ........ how many rumors here have been for real... This may be one of them :eek:
 
You know, Coldmack. A processor isn't the "spirit" of a computer, it's the engine. If a better engine is more capable than your old, far preferred engine, why hate it at all? Why replace it with one that's worse simply because it's "different"?
You may think it's better, but I will never own a PC, and what are these current x86 Macs, but just glorified Wintel machines with the legal ability to run OSX. If x86 was really better intel would not be holding back and using all the great cpu tech that came out almost 10 years ago. If X86 really was great the retina display would be running more smoothly on the 13in MBP, but it's not. It's the mickey fickey x86 architecture holding that laptop back.
 
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