I actually agree with a lot of what you said. We aren't completely on a different page. And I've been an Apple fan about as long as you. One thing that perhaps I should clarify---I am perfectly fine with being patient. I agree with you that Apple will give us what we need. The part that I DISAGREE with ... it's that with all of the cash Apple has on hand --- they seem extremely disconnected to the fact that the entire industry is trying to eat them alive and they are fighting with one hand (cash) behind their back. I'm watching all these developers and acquisitions going on at other companies at a time when Apple is in the right place to crush everyone by securing the IP and the developers. Instead, Apple is simply reacting with lawsuits on older IP. This is totally bizarre to me. It wouldn't even take 10% of Apple's cash reserves to totally change the industry climate. I want Apple to have the "thermonuclear" attitude of Jobs. Not so much with lawsuits ... but at least with regard to developing new things. It should NOT take 3 years + for an iTV. And Apple wonders why its stock price is falling. Their stock price would not be falling if they had bought up all the patents they could get their hands on and hired all of the best developers in Silicon Valley.
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I actually agree with a lot of what you said. We aren't completely on a different page. And I've been an Apple fan about as long as you. One thing that perhaps I should clarify---I am perfectly fine with being patient. I agree with you that Apple will give us what we need. The part that I DISAGREE with ... it's that with all of the cash Apple has on hand --- they seem extremely disconnected to the fact that the entire industry is trying to eat them alive and they are fighting with one hand (cash) behind their back. I'm watching all these developers and acquisitions going on at other companies at a time when Apple is in the right place to crush everyone by securing the IP and the developers. Instead, Apple is simply reacting with lawsuits on older IP. This is totally bizarre to me. It wouldn't even take 10% of Apple's cash reserves to totally change the industry climate. I want Apple to have the "thermonuclear" attitude of Jobs. Not so much with lawsuits ... but at least with regard to developing new things. It should NOT take 3 years + for an iTV. And Apple wonders why its stock price is falling. Their stock price would not be falling if they had bought up all the patents they could get their hands on and hired all of the best developers in Silicon Valley.
I'll be honest I tried iWork and I wasn't to fond of it. So I bought M$ Office 2011 I don't use it much it was a good price $100 for THREE licensees.
Because iWork has become an iToy program & a forgotten Mac program as the last update came out in Nov of 2008 or earlier. But WWDC has become more of an Apple iToy meeting than a Mac meeting. So maybe they'll mention a week & outdated program at an event that is about the future.
D000000med!
P.S. The iPad mini, the iPhone 5, the Retina MacBook Pro and the new iMac were all great releases for Steve Ghost. Can't wait to see what Steve Ghost has in store for iOS 7, the new Mac Pro (which has been promised, btw), iWork 2014, the iWatch and iTV.
Shame about those iPhone web apps, Steve. Steve Ghost would never have let that happen.
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We don't have to wait. If the updates are good and people like them they were part of the roadmap Steve left behind. If they don't then Steve would never have blah blah blah and Apple is doomed to failure without Steve and Tim Cook needs to be fired.
Microsoft Office Has 92% Market share
Office is dead? It has 92% Market share as of their last earnings report in April.
You must not work in any business oriented company that has to deal with other companies/customers.
Despite the complete down slide of the PC Market Microsoft had a profit Year over Year as of their last earnings.
Apple as of their last earnings report posted a Year over Year loss in profit.
Google and Microsoft own 97% of the total "Office Productivity" market share.
Please do a little research before making such an ignorant, blatantly incorrect post.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2013/04/19/microsoft-shakes-off-pc-slump-as-office-and-servers-sales-swell/
Office is dead? It has 92% Market share as of their last earnings report in April.
You must not work in any business oriented company that has to deal with other companies/customers.
Despite the complete down slide of the PC Market Microsoft had a profit Year over Year as of their last earnings.
Apple as of their last earnings report posted a Year over Year loss in profit.
Google and Microsoft own 97% of the total "Office Productivity" market share.
Please do a little research before making such an ignorant, blatantly incorrect post.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2013/04/19/microsoft-shakes-off-pc-slump-as-office-and-servers-sales-swell/
I really like iWork. Mostly I've just used Pages and a little bit of Numbers. The productivity suite "for the rest of us" is what they promised when they revealed iWork, and I think they are very close to that sentiment.
Will any new versions be free upgrades like other apps in the Mac App Store and iOS App Store or will these be completely new versions of iWork?
iWork 2014 will come out in 2024 or so. Apple has shown that they treat iWork like many of their older programs that they dropped after they got some people to use it. But rather than updating the program or selling it to someone that would they just let it drop.
Keynote has had 5 or more versions plus it was made for Steve to give his demos with. Thus it is a fairly good program even with no real changes in 55 or more months.
Pages came early on & has had at least 4 updates. But like Keynote it has been at least 55 months since any meaningful updates.
Numbers being the newest of the 3 programs have only had 2 versions & they came a year apart. At first it held some promise to be useful. But with so many items being lacking it needed to have at least 4 or more meaningful updates like both Keynote & Pages have had. It may be good on the small iToy screen but fails very quickly on a bigger screen. It seems too do best with very small amounts of data that looks is what is wanted & not a lot of detail.
I have a very simple Form 1099 Misc program to calculate & print Form 1099 Misc for companies that have 50, 100 or more in their number of self-employed people that work for them. In the 50 customer model Numbers dropped over 1400 formulas saying that it used the last value in the field. That means that the only way that I could use it would be to do all of the work in Excel then print it using Excel as so many parts are still missing to allow correct printing. This is just a very simple 1 worksheet program.
My income tax program is limited to the type of work that I do. But it still has well over 100 income tax forms that are all linked together. Numbers just kept up its no level of support for anything like this. Excel has handled this for much more than a decade. We won't even mention the lack of macros in Numbers. This is just another example that iWork & most notably is being keep to make it look like Apple has a group of programs that work on both their iToys & Macs. Numbers is just a joke. I've gone to several Numbers classes at the Apple Store. Numbers looks like a useful program there. But when I try to use it with even the simplest of my programs it dies. The worst part of this is that I got many of my ideas for many of the functions that I use from an old Palm micro handheld. Numbers has not developed to that point yet.
If Apple does do a meaningful update to the 3 programs then I will purchase it first. If the program lives up to even part of the hype & shows that Apple will be supporting the Mac version into the future then & only then will I purchase any of the iToy versions.
Will Apple get some revenue from me or will they continue down the road of only being an iToy designer & seller. They don't make any of their hardware anymore so we can't say manufacture for years now.
Yes of course it is dead. Why do you think it had to be changed to an online service? Google Docs ruined Office. Thats why its now Office 365. those subscription numbers are very low. microsoft is losing a lot of money and their main source of revenue will soon be Windows and Xbox. Why should we care about iWork anymore? It won't matter until its an actual part of iCloud the way that Google runs Docs.
Office365 is just another way to get Office. They're still selling boxed copies as per the usual, and have said they'll likely be doing so for another 10 years at least.
Great ideas. Agree about iWeb code, check out the CSS's it throws out. Hot mess. I normally use Dreamweaver or sometimes Hype, but iWeb was good for basic design. I just liked having the ability to host a site. All I needed was the domain, uploaded my site from Dreamweaver to my .Mac account, masked the address, bam. Saved me some dough back in the day, and it kept up with the traffic. Now everyone seems to have a server, hosting at home makes it a lot easier.
And the several hundred staff and students in my school district who use Keynote alone. Not as many use Pages, but it is heavily used as well. I don't see too many people using Numbers, though.
By ruined you mean that you switched to Google Docs so now automatically the rest of the world did too? Considering someone above you gave actual facts, you don't really have any proof to back up your claim.
That is your second post on MacRumors.
Computerworld - Office 365 has accounted for about 25% of all Office retail unit sales in the U.S. since its introduction two months ago, but the new "rent-not-own" strategy has not boosted overall sales, an analyst said today.
Although I don't post many pro Apple posts I don't ever lie and always have something to back up my posts.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238077/Office_365_subscriptions_account_for_25_of_suite_s_U.S._retail_sales
You are either a MacRumors monitor here to get more hits for the lack of any substantial Apple news or a troll. Either way you are lying and know it and should be banned.
Actually, if you want to know what's on a company's mind, you look at their ads. And Microsoft is scared ******** of Docs.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-Docs-Office-Commercials-Productivity-Gamble,22542.html
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Google seems quite confident.
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-grabs-office-users-from-microsoft-2012-12
And how are the boxed copies of Office irrelevant just because they've got a sub service running on the side?
I mean if most people are still buying the boxed copies...