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I'm looking forward to a day when Apple can coordinate its resources in such a way that no successful Apple product gets left behind. There are real people who come to depend on these programs and machines as part of their workflow, and it requires a great deal of effort to adjust to a different platform. Apple has the money. It's just a matter of organizing its talent.
 
I fear that since Steve Jobs passed away, Apple has gone back to what it did when Steve Jobs left the first time (1985-1997). Essentially, the company is mired in a deep sleep. And I say this as a HUGE Apple fan (I ONLY buy Apple). There is no reason that iWork should have to endure this long of an update. With all the BILLIONS of dollars that Apple has on hand, they should be purchasing FAR more patents and startups than they have in recent years. Instead, I'm watching as Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and Samsung all make these major acquisitions --- and with far less cash than Apple. The MacPro hasn't been updated in YEARS ... the iphone hasn't had a major software update basically ever ... the company killed the 17" MBP for high end users... and they can't even get their campus built. I just don't know what this company is waiting for. It seems that with all the money they have on hand ... perhaps their priorities are lacking.

Dare I say it ... Time for a new CEO? IMO, the CEO of Apple should be operating as if this is Apple's last week on earth (even though they might be at or near the top, they shouldn't think like that). There is no sense of urgency with this company anymore. When Jobs was running the show ... it was like watching someone with ADHD throwing out one idea after another. Now we just get better cameras and faster processors.

Almost everything in this post is wrong.
 
It's about time; I love the iWork apps but poor performance with larger files, and a lack of updates has been very off-putting, as I think only the iOS versions have seen any attention lately?

Numbers in particular could do with more features to help it compete with Excel; maybe not directly, but the automatic behaviour for creating graphs is in sore need of attention as it's not nearly as easy to use as it's supposed to be, indeed graphs in general are just far too limited and far too hard to get them to do what you want.

It's a suite with a lot of great ideas, but that needs some big performance improvements to smooth it out on both OS X and iOS, and there needs to be more innovative ways to access useful features without delving into the weighty inspector, which should really be for advanced features only. I'd love to see contextual pop-overs based on items you select for example, to give graph editing features right beside a selected graph, or image options next to a selected image and so-on. I also think that layout and master pages could really do with their own view of your document, so that they can be simplified separated from regular editing, even though they're similar; I know it's not a hugely used operation, but I've found Pages to be a surprisingly capable alternative to apps like Quark and InDesign (though with its limitations of course).

But yeah, it's a great suite, but sorely in need of updating as it really should be every OS X and iOS user's ideal office suite, but that's not quite the case.
 
iWork needs to support collaboration - bare-bones document sharing between people, at a minimum. Sharing with myself across devices is great; but right now sharing with a friend or co-worker means "mail it to them". I was using that method of collaboration in the early 1990s.

Admit it, you wrote this whole comment just so you could casually mention that you have been on the net since 1994? with friends too? Well I can play that game. My friend helped me set up a web page with a picture on it of me and my wife in 1994. (The picture was taken with a QuickTake Camera!)
 
They've been busy developing the iOS side of iWork (and any OS X updates are for iOS features), just as the iOS versions of iLife '11 (aside from iTunes of course). Apple has been hard at work with iOS development, even in OS X. As for the Mac [cue taps]. :eek:

I really miss iWeb and iDVD updates. For the life of me I don't know why Apple removed web hosting as part of MobileMe before the iCloud transition. I would have paid had Apple kept up keychain and improved iDisk and web hosting. Free accounts are a good way to market their hardware, that is when they're functioning.

Agreed, especially regarding the removal of web hosting, it was a pretty nice way to share things.

What I would especially like to see is better content sharing between iPhoto for Mac and iOS. They've got the cloud and yet they only use it for sharing photos on photo stream! Why not make a portion of the iPhoto library sharable and editable via both iOS and Mac?

I love having one photo library I can share between Aperture and iPhoto, just wish I could also perform some light editing through the iPad...

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Almost everything in this post is wrong.

I wouldn't say everything, but I think one of Apple's skills is the ability to focus on a few product categories and make them easy and fun to use, while making them look damn good.

Although acquisitions are necessary and can bring in some really cool techs, it probably isn't easy to snatch all these different companies, technologies and people and mash them all together into the Apple way of working and integrate their technologies in Apple products in a seamless way.

But some techs and opportunities do seem to have slipped out of their hands... bought by Google for instance...
 
gave up waiting for an update, Payed $8 for the Mac Office suite from Microsoft (thanks to the work hup program)
 
It's been over four years since the last major update. Why has apple not updated iWork in such a long time?

Maybe its the same team / reason..behind Logic X delay?
Ios Pages hasn't yet a simply highliter and "highlight summary" as many apps already have such as Pdf Expert...,even Ibooks have an highlighter...this is ridicolous..as the fact i cannot export books right out from Pages inside Ibooks..,
and no..pdf export its not enough.
 
I fear that since Steve Jobs passed away, Apple has gone back to what it did when Steve Jobs left the first time (1985-1997). Essentially, the company is mired in a deep sleep. And I say this as a HUGE Apple fan (I ONLY buy Apple). There is no reason that iWork should have to endure this long of an update. With all the BILLIONS of dollars that Apple has on hand, they should be purchasing FAR more patents and startups than they have in recent years. Instead, I'm watching as Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and Samsung all make these major acquisitions --- and with far less cash than Apple. The MacPro hasn't been updated in YEARS ... the iphone hasn't had a major software update basically ever ... the company killed the 17" MBP for high end users... and they can't even get their campus built. I just don't know what this company is waiting for. It seems that with all the money they have on hand ... perhaps their priorities are lacking.

Dare I say it ... Time for a new CEO? IMO, the CEO of Apple should be operating as if this is Apple's last week on earth (even though they might be at or near the top, they shouldn't think like that). There is no sense of urgency with this company anymore. When Jobs was running the show ... it was like watching someone with ADHD throwing out one idea after another. Now we just get better cameras and faster processors.

While Steve dies a little more than a year and a half ago, that's still more than 2 years after the last iWork update. So it's not fair to totally blame it on Tim.

More on topic: I'd really like to see online multi-person editing of the same document a la Google Docs. That might not be useful for a high school student's essay, but it can really help with organizations & businesses.
 
Yes of course it is dead. Why do you think it had to be changed to an online service? Google Docs ruined Office.

We just evaluated Google Docs against Office 365. We would have loved nothing more than to move off Microsoft.

Bottom line was: GD is not ready for prime time (yet). Some very basic functionality is missing (no decimal headings in documents, no multi-column layouts, no merged table cells, to name but a few).

Yes, most people only use 10% of the functionality in Office. The problem is that 3% of these differ from person to person and when you add them all up, you get very close to the 100% of Office functionality.
 
They've been busy developing the iOS side of iWork (and any OS X updates are for iOS features), just as the iOS versions of iLife '11 (aside from iTunes of course). Apple has been hard at work with iOS development, even in OS X. As for the Mac [cue taps]. :eek:

I really miss iWeb and iDVD updates. For the life of me I don't know why Apple removed web hosting as part of MobileMe before the iCloud transition. I would have paid had Apple kept up keychain and improved iDisk and web hosting. Free accounts are a good way to market their hardware, that is when they're functioning.

Microsoft doesn't update Office very often either. They spend about 3 years between updates.
 
Apple as of their last earnings report posted a Year over Year loss in profit.

Google and Microsoft own 97% of the total "Office Productivity" market share.

Please do a little research before making such an ignorant, blatantly incorrect post.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2013/04/19/microsoft-shakes-off-pc-slump-as-office-and-servers-sales-swell/

You know what a loss in profit is? Its a *reduction* in profit. Not sure how that relates to anything you are saying about iwork vs office. And certainly not why you would mention google in this unless you seriously think cloud based productivity suites have some appreciable market share.
 
It's about time that they start updating iWork. Numbers is horrible compared to Excel so hopefully they will do a complete overhaul and of course make everything cloud base like Office 365 for some good ol' competition.
 
Apologize all you care to for Tim Cook but many CEO's have been fired for much better numbers than he has posted in the last year.

Pretty interesting seeing as not many companies in the world has ever had numbers like Apple had last year.
 
or you could give up your sense of entitlement.

me, I like a solid piece of reliable software better than the never ending stream of releases from Microsoft.


I think Apple is WAY beyond the realm of 'never ending stream of releases' when it comes to iWork.
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About time for an improvement as Office gets worse

If they are serious about Macs for office machines, iWork desperately needed improvement - Pages and Numbers were pretty amateurish. However as Mac for Office seems to get worse with each iteration, at some point they will meet in the middle and eventually iWork might overtake Office. At that point I will happily wave goodbye (and good riddance) to expensive, flaky, unstable and buggy Office 2011, especially Outlook, which crashed on both our Macs currently using it yesterday and one needed an elaborate identity rebuild, with deletion of caches etc. I would have gone back to Office 2008 but that no longer gets security updates and as it is one of the more vulnerable Mac programs, that is too big a risk.
 
Even if they delude themselves with a lie, it doesn't really matter. They've reached a level. Are content with what they have. Can't cope with anything more.

More likely, they can't cope with anything LESS. Like Apple's word processing software.
 
I fear that since Steve Jobs passed away, Apple has gone back to what it did when Steve Jobs left the first time (1985-1997). Essentially, the company is mired in a deep sleep. And I say this as a HUGE Apple fan (I ONLY buy Apple). There is no reason that iWork should have to endure this long of an update. With all the BILLIONS of dollars that Apple has on hand, they should be purchasing FAR more patents and startups than they have in recent years. Instead, I'm watching as Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and Samsung all make these major acquisitions --- and with far less cash than Apple. The MacPro hasn't been updated in YEARS ... the iphone hasn't had a major software update basically ever ... the company killed the 17" MBP for high end users... and they can't even get their campus built. I just don't know what this company is waiting for. It seems that with all the money they have on hand ... perhaps their priorities are lacking.

Dare I say it ... Time for a new CEO? IMO, the CEO of Apple should be operating as if this is Apple's last week on earth (even though they might be at or near the top, they shouldn't think like that). There is no sense of urgency with this company anymore. When Jobs was running the show ... it was like watching someone with ADHD throwing out one idea after another. Now we just get better cameras and faster processors.

Logged in just to up vote this comment. I couldn't agree more.
 
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