I never said Clemson and OSU weren't good. I said their conferences don't touch the top to bottom SEC.
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There have been 5 different teams win national titles in the SEC since 2008. Hardly one team carrying the load for the whole conference. The same thing you're trying to argue could be said for most conferences.
ACC - Clemson
Big 10 - Ohio St
Big 12 - Oklahoma
Pac12 - Oregon recently, USC in the past
The difference is fans of ACC teams don't claim Clemson's success to be their own.
That's the difference. An ACC was only on top a few times, while SEC teams have ruled college football for almost 20 years now.
National championships since 2000:
LSU - 3
Florida - 2
Alabama - 6
Auburn - 1
Georgia - 1
That's 13 in the last 21 years. But yeah, laugh away and ignore facts.
LSU - 3
Florida - 2
Alabama - 6
Auburn - 1
Georgia - 1
That's 13 in the last 21 years. But yeah, laugh away and ignore facts.
I laughed cuz you ignored the point and continued to feed into the meme.
Plus, your point has been arguing top to bottom superiority. But you only spend time defending the top.
Have a nice life. You're on my ignore list now.
Damn, some of those wins are almost old enough to drink now. Who’s your team btw?
Funny how when the other SEC schools hear chants of “we want ‘bama,” they apparently hear “we want SEC!”
I'd hope that after Washington made that mistake they'd all stop chanting that.
Wait, are schools from other conferences now also jumping on the “SEC! SEC!” bandwagon? Jesus, the coattail riding is getting even more nonsensical. Should we expect this to eventually reach down into the FCS?
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The team I'm a fan of has nothing to do with the fact the SEC is easily the best conference. I can hate every SEC team and it's still a factual statement that the SEC is the best. I don't let who my team is distract from facts.
As far as the “top to bottom” SEC goes, they ranked third among the P5 conferences for bowl game win percentage last year. They didn’t even crack .500.
Bowl games don't really count for anything. Just early practice for next season. Look at out of conference, regular season games.
Sounds like cherry-picking your data, leading to the biased outcome you desired. If “the SEC is clearly the best conference in college football,” surely they should be able to muster at least a .500 bowl game record. Surely they should be able to do better than 3rd place out of P5 bowl records. We can look at a more wholistic set of data too.
Total out of conference 2021 records
SEC: 55-17
76.4% win percentage
Big 12: 30-9
76.9% win percentage.
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Look at your own numbers....
SEC teams account for more bowl appearances simply because even their mid-level teams are better than the best teams in most other conferences. This leaves the SEC 4th or 5th place team playing against the number 1 or 2 team from another conference in a bowl. Or some Big 12 or 10 team playing some unknown team in a lower level bowl game....or even a big bowl game year after year and losing (I'm looking at you, U of M)
Those numbers aren’t just for bowl games, they’re for all 2021 non-conference games. And apparently you don’t realize that the SEC has more teams than the Big 12 and thus would be expected to play more total games. Additionally, the SEC typically played 8 in-conference games and 5 non-conference games while the Big 12 typically played 9 in-conference games and 4 non-conference games, also accounting for the difference in total non-conference games.
The SEC’s 4th best team last year was Kentucky. In their bowl game they played the Big 10’s 4th best team, Iowa.
The SEC’s 5th best team last year was Arkansas. In their bowl game they played the Big 10’s 8th best team, Penn State.
The idea that the SEC’s middling teams have to play other conference’s first and second best teams in bowl games is laughably and verifiably false.
This is all aside from the fact that your own argument contradicts itself.
“Even their mid-level teams are better than the best teams in most other conferences.”
“This leaves the SEC 4th or 5th place team playing against the number 1 or 2 team from another conference in a bowl.”
The second quote appears to purport that the reason for the sub-.500 bowl record is because the SEC middling teams have to play (and then lose to) the best or second best teams from other conferences in those bowl games. However not only did I show this is not actually true, but even if it were, it also directly contradicts your first quote where you claim the SEC’s 4th and 5th best teams are better than most other conferences’ best teams.
In short, 🤣🤣🤣
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And what's the strength of schedule? Example: Alabama typically opens with a top team like #3 FSU, etc.
I’m not going to do your work for you. If you want to make a point regarding strength of schedule, look up the data for 2021. I’m not going to do it for you. I looked up all of my own data. Regarding Alabama opening with a top team. 😂 Last year they opened with Miami, who ended the 2021 season unranked and this year they’re opening with a G5 school. Meanwhile OSU is opening with Notre Dame, an actual top team.
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