Apple Could Release OLED iPad With Samsung Display Panel in 2024

[JPack]

I'm confused though. Isn't mini LED superior to OLED except for the blooming issue? Better HDR experience on mini-LED vs OLED.

Mini LED is indeed superior. If Apple thought OLED was best, they would have put it in MacBook Pro. There are countless OLED notebooks from Asus, Lenovo, Dell, and HP. Apple didn't go that direction because OLED is not a long term solution.

The blooming issue will be reduced as mini LED matures with increased zones. But even future versions of OLED are unlikely to match LED in terms of brightness or longevity (at high levels of brightness).

 

[staveb]

Doesn't that seem like a bit of a long wait, given that the iPhone has had an OLED display for years? Why is it taking so long?

 

[Freeangel1]

WOW! thats 2 years away!!

I just forgo the wait and get a Samsung tablet with OLED.

 

[code-m]

Mini LED is indeed superior. If Apple thought OLED was best, they would have put it in MacBook Pro. There are countless OLED notebooks from Asus, Lenovo, Dell, and HP. Apple didn't go that direction because OLED is not a long term solution.

The blooming issue will be reduced as mini LED matures with increased zones. But even future versions of OLED are unlikely to match LED in terms of brightness or longevity (at high levels of brightness).

I would not consider miniLED superior, instead it has some advantages and disadvantages as does OLED.

I personally cannot stand bright screens, on an iPhone 12 Pro outside with a lot of sunlight the display is usually at half brightness. Indoor for both OLED and LED on my M1 MBA it’s at the lowest setting or reduced white point. Others are different and personally I see no advantage for me with brighter displays, but I do prefer infinite contrast.

 

[DJTaurus]

The oled nonsense continues. So I ll continue not buying Apple products unitl micro led or at least mini led takes over.

 

[The Game 161]

I do enjoy my mini led iPad Pro but i would welcome an OLED ipad. my experience OLED is a better overall experience but mini led will be good enough until then. LCD has had it’s day and the difference is clear from the old panels.

 

[Artemis70]

I’m honestly not trying to provoke. Blooming is a non-issue for me, and really only if I crank the brightness ridiculously high with 95% of the display pure black and I’m trying to look for it.

The mini-LED on my MBP 16 is gorgeous. If it was unreadable, which I would believe to be a deal-breaker on any laptop, I’d return it.

Same here on my MBP 14. I love the mini-LED display. The display is a huge improvement over my previous MacBook Pro 13".

 

[xxray]

Apple should’ve gone with OLED in the Pros in the first place. I suspect they invested in mini-LED because it gave them less reliance on Samsung.

People tout mini-LEDs as being brighter than OLED, yet the iPad Pro and MacBook Pro mini-LED displays still sit at 600 nits and 500 nits max brightness for non-HDR content, while the OLED iPhone 13 Pros can go up to 1000 nits max non-HDR brightness.

OLED has no blooming issues that make mini-LED seem like a half-baked technology. And burn-in has never been an issue with any Apple OLED displays since they first started being used in the Apple Watch in 2015. OLEDs also have a faster screen response time, reducing ghosting and increasing responsiveness. Ask any display expert and they will say that the OLED displays on the iPhones are Apple’s best displays out of all of their products.

I don’t know how people don’t notice blooming, at least on the iPad Pro. Try to read anything in dark mode in a dimly lit or dark room. Try to watch a movie. HDR with blooming will literally make aspects of a movie look cloudy because one part of the display is getting so bright that it’s washing out the areas around it due to the blooming. I scroll through Apollo in dark mode and everything has a pillow/cloud around it. Mini-LED is better than pure LCD, but it’s still way inferior to OLED.

 

[alpi123]

Mini LED is indeed superior. If Apple thought OLED was best, they would have put it in MacBook Pro. There are countless OLED notebooks from Asus, Lenovo, Dell, and HP. Apple didn't go that direction because OLED is not a long term solution.

The blooming issue will be reduced as mini LED matures with increased zones. But even future versions of OLED are unlikely to match LED in terms of brightness or longevity (at high levels of brightness).

miniLED is definitely not superiour. It's still LCD no matter how you look at it. Maybe in a few aspects, but not in general.

Samsung's newest QD-OLED panels are WAY better than regular WOLED/AMOLED panels (used right now), the improved colors and brightness are much visible, and theyré so confident that it won't develop burn-in so that they offer 3 years replacement warranty. Of course, burn-in is not eliminated completely, but the way this QWD-OLED panel works, burn-in should be a minor issue now, if any.

 

[SirAnthonyHopkins]

I just don’t see Apple investing millions and millions into mini LED just to abandon it for OLED a few years later.

Unlikely they'd abandon it, the technology will trickle down to other devices and remain in use throughout the range. OLED will be for the top-end stuff for the immediate and likely foreseeable future.

 

[one more]

An OLED iPad Air back on the table then. ? IMO, OLED is an excellent choice for any consumption device, where the colour accuracy is not so important.

 

[krspkbl]

that's when i'll upgrade to a new ipad. i ain't using that Mini LED rubbish.

 

[k1121j]

Did we just open the rumor recycle bin due to lack of news!?

 

[TheRealAlex]

But they have to be QD-OLED, as Samsung has released at CES 2022.

 

[Halikaarn]

If it's a Mini, I'll buy it!

 

[GuruZac]

I was definitely surprised how bad the blooming was when I first got my 12.9 iPad Pro. But I have subsequently gotten used to it and it’s a non-issue now, especially during the day. But any content at night, especially if you are any bit viewing off axis, and it just looks hazy and the blacks become gray. With that said, it is still a dramatic improvement over the previous LCD iPad Pro displays. My wife still have a 2018 12.9 and i have compared identical content several times, and it’s pretty stark how much better content looks on my 2021 iPad Pro. I would still welcome an OLED iPad Pro though just to be completely rid of the blooming. But I would imagine by 2024, microLED may be close to becoming a reality, no?

 

[SpringKid]

They might also not. Or they might do something else. Who knows.

 

[AppleTO]

Isn’t this like the fourth year in a row we’ve had this rumour? Lol

 

[calstanford]

That would be a decade after Samsung released a Tab with OLED. Well done.

 

[Steve121178]

Does it really matter? Wake me up when Apple finally takes the restrictive reins off iPadOS and allows it to finally start taking advantage of the hardware.

 

[MICHAELSD]

I was skeptical with OLED technology at first (burn in, PMW), but after using an iPhone 13 mini, all other screens I have in my home (iPhone 8, 9.7” iPad, 11” iPad Pro) all pale in comparison, and I even perceive some ghosting on the LCD IPS devices. Colors are vibrant and blacks are true black in OLED. Now I want an OLED iPad, even if it’s a non-pro iPad.

I agree with you: OLED looks dramatically better and makes content and even just general use much more enjoyable. I’d like it on every device I own, and I would replace my Pioneer KURO with a LG OLED if it wasn’t still going strong with zero burn-in or display degradation 13 years later.

Unfortunately, I still get headaches from the PWM on iPhone 13 Mini despite my best efforts to make it usable. It’s an improvement over the iPhone 12 series, but not quite enough yet for the most sensitive users such as myself.

 

[Wags]

Is this truly high cost of manufacturing or just won’t break profit margins. There had to be balance but not about delivering best technology available anymore.

 

[827538]

You're confusing Micro and Mini LED.

Display quality wise: Micro-LED (Doesn't exist in commercial products yet) > OLED (TVs, iPhones, Watch) > Mini-LED (MacBook/iPad Pros) > Full Array LED (More Expensive LCD TVs) > Edge Lit LED (Cheaper LCD TVs)

With Micro-LED and OLED each individual pixel can be lit and unlit so there is no need for a backlight; thus giving an infinite contrast ratio with perfect blacks. While OLED do have burn-in issues, that has gotten much better within the past few years. Both Mini-LED and Full Array LED suffer from blooming. They essentially are the same thing, with Mini-LED just shoving a ton more individual dimming zones in its backlighting. Edge Lit LED have the worst contrast ratios since there is no way to dim only certain parts of the screen.

As far as HDR is concerned it's a subjective experience. OLED can provide a wider contrast ratio but all other LED based displays can get much brighter. Personally I prefer my retinas not to be seared out when watching a movie on a TV in a dark room. However in a laptop/tablet used outdoors Mini-LED makes more sense as a stop gap until Micro-LED matures.

This is not true. I’m an electronic and electrical engineer and there are areas where OLED is superior to Micro-LED.

OLED is superior in latency to Micro-LED LCD, it cannot match the switching times and is no better than standard LCD.

It suffers from ghosting like LCD.

LCD panels don’t suffer from color shift burn in like OLED but it can still suffer from brightness burn in.

The panels suffer from worse off axis color shifting like LCD.

Overall I still vastly prefer OLED to Micro-LED LCD. I don’t believe the costs and negatives justify ‘superiority’ over OLED. Brightness and less burn in risk are non issues for me on OLED.

 

[davidako]

You're confusing Micro and Mini LED.

Display quality wise: Micro-LED (Doesn't exist in commercial products yet) > OLED (TVs, iPhones, Watch) > Mini-LED (MacBook/iPad Pros) > Full Array LED (More Expensive LCD TVs) > Edge Lit LED (Cheaper LCD TVs)

With Micro-LED and OLED each individual pixel can be lit and unlit so there is no need for a backlight; thus giving an infinite contrast ratio with perfect blacks. While OLED do have burn-in issues, that has gotten much better within the past few years. Both Mini-LED and Full Array LED suffer from blooming. They essentially are the same thing, with Mini-LED just shoving a ton more individual dimming zones in its backlighting. Edge Lit LED have the worst contrast ratios since there is no way to dim only certain parts of the screen.

As far as HDR is concerned it's a subjective experience. OLED can provide a wider contrast ratio but all other LED based displays can get much brighter. Personally I prefer my retinas not to be seared out when watching a movie on a TV in a dark room. However in a laptop/tablet used outdoors Mini-LED makes more sense as a stop gap until Micro-LED matures.

I like the peak brightness on mini LED. It’s very immersive for me since that’s how light works in real life.

Apple just needs to improve the terrible response time of the MBP screen and it’s practically perfect for its use case.

 

[Cape Dave]

I just heard that Apple may have an OLED Mini Micro LED 27 inch iPad in 2029? Could this be correct? Shall I wait for it? I could really use this for my workflow? Or did I hear a 29 inch iPad in 2027? Sheesh, hard to keep all this straight. Or... should I hold out for an 32 inch iPad in 2030? I heard that one will have a 12K resolution mini micro maxi LED DEL screen?