Apple Could Use 'Broadcast Quality' iPhone Cameras to Stream WWDC 2020 Sessions

[Edsel]

"Broadcast quality"?

 

[sarge]

sorry but an iPhone 11 is to "broadcast quality" what a bandana is to an N95 mask.

 

[Rocko99991]

Taking an iphone video and broadcasting it does not make the video or camera 'broadcast' quality.

 

[H2SO4]

Just no. "broadcast quality" would mean a 422 codec in HD, far less compression and a lot of other things, from the technical sides alone.

Then there's hardware requirements (4-8 audio Tracks, nice Lenses,...).

Iphones have good cameras for a phone, but they don't hold a candle to TV cameras or even DSLRs. Yet.

There's a reason a decent camera lens cost's more than an iphone. Computational photography and cheaper storage will probably close that gap someday but not that soon.

I can't say it's unexpected. Their processors were desktop class a while back, (but they are yet to appear in a desktop).
Before that it was server class drives in their Time Capsules, (shame the capacitors that kept blowing up were hyperbole class).
Next their phone microphones will be audiophile class.
Lastly, whatever device they release after that will be class action class.
They make very nice products, no denying that, but their best product is their marketing department.

 

[AppleTO]

I’m guessing you’re not a fan of American Idol, however it was indeed broadcast.

There’s another episode coming up, check it out if you want to see iPhones used in TV production.

I used to watch American Idol years ago (I think a lot of people did). But I’m very curious to see how this turns out so I’ll probably check it out at some point. I guessing the lighting needs to be quite good. No dark theatres. Not that we can go in theatres anyways...

 

[44267547]

Seems weird you wouldn't use broadcast quality cameras but I guess it's a great showcase opportunity.

You nailed it. It’s Exactly what it is, ‘showcasing opportunity‘, plus marketing. Anyways, I’m just thinking the sacrifice would be the quality that’s dropped somewhat.

 

[iOSBry]

I’m guessing you’re not a fan of American Idol, however it was indeed broadcast.

There’s another episode coming up, check it out if you want to see iPhones used in TV production.

Yes, it was but the contestants footage didn't look great most of the time in the iPhone based footage I saw on Hulu.

Most were slightly blurred/blotchy. Every now and then they'd get a really clear good looking shot but all others were not a good advertisement for iPhone.

iOSBry

 

[now i see it]

Yeah an iPhone is broadcast quality, and it wasn't too long ago that they were trying to convince the world that the iPhone 6 camera was pro quality too

 

[PortoMavericks]

Yeah an iPhone is broadcast quality, and it wasn't too long ago that they were trying to convince the world that the iPhone 6 camera was pro quality too

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What if I tell you they tried the same thing with their display? lol

 

[mozumder]

The iPhone 11 already has a 4k front facing camera. It's the Macs they don't care about.

Read the list of things I stated to make a good picture. You don't need 4k at all. We need larger pixels on the sensor, not more pixels. You'd much rather have 720p with higher dynamic range than 4k with low dynamic range. Also, 4k tends to reduce frame rate, and higher frame rate is better for interactive video.

So, in the end, 4k on a cell phone just makes things worse.

We really need to make sure people understand that 4k video is a bad thing, not a good thing, for a cell phone.

NOBODY wants to see 4k of blurry video.

 

[Paradoxally]

Also, 4k tends to reduce frame rate, and higher frame rate is better for interactive video.

That's not on Apple though, streaming is always gonna have bottlenecks. Most likely: your internet, their internet, the service you're using, and overall latency. 1080p is the sweet spot, the new iPhones can do this easily at 60 fps.

We have optimized video quality on mobile cameras but we lack the bandwidth to really push that content live without straining our existing infrastructure (esp. now that a lot of people are working from home). Why do you think 1080p is still the standard for most TV channels while we have 8K TVs available for purchase?

 

[mozumder]

That's not on Apple though, streaming is always gonna have bottlenecks. Most likely: your internet, their internet, the service you're using, and overall latency. 1080p is the sweet spot, the new iPhones can do this easily at 60 fps.

We have optimized video quality on mobile cameras but we lack the bandwidth to really push that content live without straining our existing infrastructure (esp. now that a lot of people are working from home). Why do you think 1080p is still the standard for most TV channels while we have 8K TVs available for purchase?

Fair enough. But local video conferencing that people are doing to connect with their schoolmates or neighbors are likely not going to be limited by trunk bandwidths.

 

[MB1]

Read the list of things I stated to make a good picture. You don't need 4k at all. We need larger pixels on the sensor, not more pixels. You'd much rather have 720p with higher dynamic range than 4k with low dynamic range. Also, 4k tends to reduce frame rate, and higher frame rate is better for interactive video.

So, in the end, 4k on a cell phone just makes things worse.

We really need to make sure people understand that 4k video is a bad thing, not a good thing, for a cell phone.

NOBODY wants to see 4k of blurry video.

But the "blurry video" is only a result of inexperience. Used properly an iPhone can produce broadcast quality pictures, I have actually proved it by putting a video through UK Media Industry DPP testing

 

[Tech198]

But where's the audience. ??