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I suppose an actual Screen is not needed at all. Just decent Remote Home automation. The problem with most homes is 10 remote controls.



Logitech Harmony is good but there is something lacking there. I still can't put my finger on what it is.


On that note, I was shocked that the little $129 harmony smart remote supports the hue lights. You set it up using your phone and it is pretty amazing at that price point.
 
In the UK, this puts the price down to £59.99 for a refurb Apple TV, which is pretty nice.

Enough to convince me to order one for the wait until a new version is released. Wonder how long they'll last.

£70-80 new (Amazon) and £60 refurb (Argos Clearance) seem to have been the going rates for quite a while anyway so it is about time Apple brought its prices in line. The same goes for the iPod Classic, which is still £20-25 overpriced in the Apple Store.

Is Mac Mini with OS X Server a $ 180 rip off? Why is it $200 more than a regular Mac Mini?

Can't you just buy a Mac Mini and buy OS X server for $20 from the App Store?

What is the value add?
I don't get it! :confused:

Another 1TB of hard drive space plus the necessary SATA connectors inside. If you are handy with tools, you could save a bit by doing the upgrade yourself.
 
Apparently in the UK, iMac sales have plummeted, hence why a price drop makes sense.

Anecdotally, I find the apple stores quite sparsely populated with customers. They desperately need some new products to shift in these dog days of summer. Sadly, the low cost Imac is not really even close to competing with true low cost chromebooks (never would TBH).

I hope that they can refresh their product line soon, this whole annual feast/famine lifecycle is not good.
 
On that note, I was shocked that the little $129 harmony smart remote supports the hue lights. You set it up using your phone and it is pretty amazing at that price point.

Yup I have a harmony and some Phillips Colour lights... but not hue unfortunately.

the harmony Ultimate is a little fiddly. Not enough real buttons for my liking. the Small remote is actually better in my opinion.
 
New Zealand prices have dropped also.
$250 off iMac's
$10 off Apple TV
$100 off Mac minis

We do have a strong dollar at the moment
 
Apple’s getting rid of inventory. Mac Mini = Dead.

Or is the old form factor just dead?

Wouldn't surprise me to see an Apple TV / Mac mini merge, maybe on basis of a low-voltage i5, Intel HD grfx, and small SSD (64 GB - 128 GB).

If they use the same CPU / GPU as in the new lowest-end iMac (or MBA), they could cram all that simply in a very tiny box, maybe even smaller than the current Apple TV.
 
Wouldn't surprise me to see an Apple TV / Mac mini merge, maybe on basis of a low-voltage i5, Intel HD grfx, and small SSD (64 GB - 128 GB).

If they use the same CPU / GPU as in the new lowest-end iMac (or MBA), they could cram all that simply in a very tiny box, maybe even smaller than the current Apple TV.

This has been my thoughts. Seems like the ideal opportunity to merge the form factors as many people use the mac mini as a media unit anyway
 
Or is the old form factor just dead?

Wouldn't surprise me to see an Apple TV / Mac mini merge, maybe on basis of a low-voltage i5, Intel HD grfx, and small SSD (64 GB - 128 GB).

If they use the same CPU / GPU as in the new lowest-end iMac (or MBA), they could cram all that simply in a very tiny box, maybe even smaller than the current Apple TV.

Nah, Apple TV is much cheaper than Mac Mini. If they merge them, the price will go up, so less people would buy a 500$ Apple TV.
 
£70-80 new (Amazon) and £60 refurb (Argos Clearance) seem to have been the going rates for quite a while anyway so it is about time Apple brought its prices in line.

That's true, and I had considered getting one from Amazon. I didn't know about the refurbs sold by Argos, but I rarely buy refurbished products, and when I do, I prefer them to come from the manufacturer.

Sadly, the low cost Imac is not really even close to competing with true low cost chromebooks (never would TBH).

I'm fairly sure Apple aren't trying to compete with Chromebooks. Cloud-reliant machines are not their style.
 
Reminds me I need to sell my ATV3, been in the box the last 12 months :(
 
Anecdotally, I find the apple stores quite sparsely populated with customers. They desperately need some new products to shift in these dog days of summer. Sadly, the low cost Imac is not really even close to competing with true low cost chromebooks (never would TBH).

I hope that they can refresh their product line soon, this whole annual feast/famine lifecycle is not good.

So it's not just me that had noticed this? Even when I went abroad recently, the Apple Stores there were almost empty. I was a bit shocked.

That doesn't mean people aren't buying anything, it just means in-store interest is down. Hence why Apple have shaken things up at the top level, I guess.
 
New Zealand prices have dropped also.
$250 off iMac's
$10 off Apple TV
$100 off Mac minis

We do have a strong dollar at the moment

i thought i was looking at the price wrong for all of the iMacs..:eek:..guess i was not..:D...yeah price drop for the imac i have been waiting for that and an update for the imac....a price drop is good enough for me to buy also i have student discount as well so i will have a discount around 350 off my imac...:)
 
iPads are pretty much cloud-reliant and were designed to be from the outset.

I think we have drastically different definitions for reliance on the cloud, or you don't know much about Chromebooks.

On a Chromebook, most of the apps and their data live in the cloud. Very little actually resides on the device. To be used to its potential, a Chromebook needs to be connected to the internet almost the entire time it's in use.

The iPad is perhaps reliant on having an internet connection (though certainly not all the time). Apps, music, films, books, podcasts, all reside on the device.

The iPad was never designed to be "cloud-reliant". That is a concept which has been pioneered by Google and others. If iPads were cloud-reliant, they would not be used in professional settings - by pilots, for example. They would also not ship in 128GB storage models.
 
Where's the Mac nano already? On the PC side they have "Next Unit of Computing" (NUC) which is almost a quarter the size of the current Mac mini.

Hopefully Apple is waiting on Intel to deliver Broadwell CPUs to get very low power requirements for the next iteration of the low-cost headless Mac. I'm hoping for a smaller size, lower power requirements and a much lower cost too.

Imagine a quad-core i5, 8 or 16GB RAM with a PCI-E SSD in the form factor of the Apple TV.
 
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