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This is scumbag behaviour. Actively pushing ads and tracking the behaviour of kids is gross, and they souldn't be given any extra time to resolve it.
 
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That’s apple. If apple wants to delay it so be it. You guys chose to support a company that made this decision.
 
Thread is filled with hand wringing rhetoric without an ounce of critical thought. No curiosity about what "tracking" means. Just triggered overreactions from people who have no clue regarding what they're reacting over. Those not overreacting with "but what about the kids" are busy laying blame at the feet of the devs while ignoring the fact that only one company controls the scenario. But what about the kids from the perspective of Apple's delay?:rolleyes:
 
Good thing internet, cable and sat tv don't track which ads your children watch. Wait...

Internet ads? An ad blocker (e.g. uBlock Origin) fixes that. There are also a lot of other tools you can use to control your privacy and protect yourself while online: Hosts files, Privacy Badger, VPN, Canvas Defender, NoScript, Ghostery,....

Cable and sat tv? People still pay for a service that serves you ads? Get with the times and cut the cord.
 
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Whenever you talk about tracking, you can aways use the valid reason "Because it gives us "feedback" about how people use apps".

Isn't that itself a kind of tracking.. ? May not be tracking for adverting, but it what does it matter what's it used for.... It's still tracking universally. Even Apple does it with the only option "to limit it" on Mac OS system preferences.

Good thing internet, cable and sat tv don't track which ads your children watch. Wait...

How abut recommendations based on what you've watched ? That's also tracking in itself.... We reall y gotta start treating this as universal, rather than "it's ok depends on what's it used for" as how can you trust companies when all they do is grab info like Facebook ?

If we start cherry picking fruit, then we're no better off than they are
 
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Thread is filled with hand wringing rhetoric without an ounce of critical thought. No curiosity about what "tracking" means. Just triggered overreactions from people who have no clue regarding what they're reacting over. Those not overreacting with "but what about the kids" are busy laying blame at the feet of the devs while ignoring the fact that only one company controls the scenario. But what about the kids from the perspective of Apple's delay?:rolleyes:

I disagree. I think if the average person listens to the NPR Fresh Air podcast from
July 31 ("How tech companies track your every move sell your data") they'd learn something new and possibly think twice about their feelings on the subject. Last year's New York Times piece on phone tracking is equally as good.

I don't want to demonize developers. They are in a no-win scenario. There was a race to the bottom with app pricing. They're just trying to survive. There's also the apathetic, and arguably selfish public, that expect everything for free (and first class BTW), along with a comfortable living wage, while denying their neighbor the same by where/what they spend/put their value in.
 
I disagree. I think if the average person listens to the NPR Fresh Air podcast from
July 31 ("How tech companies track your every move sell your data") they'd learn something new and possibly think twice about their feelings on the subject. Last year's New York Times piece on phone tracking is equally as good.

I don't want to demonize developers. They are in a no-win scenario. There was a race to the bottom with app pricing. They're just trying to survive. There's also the apathetic, and arguably selfish public, that expect everything for free (and first class BTW), along with a comfortable living wage, while denying their neighbor the same by where/what they spend/put their value in.
I'm not really sure what you disagree with if I'm honest. The thread is filled with uninformed rhetoric and overreactions. Kinda hard to disagree with that imo. The overarching theme seems to be greedy devs are out to harm the kids. Are you saying you see something different in this thread?
 
I'm not really sure what you disagree with if I'm honest. The thread is filled with uninformed rhetoric and overreactions. Kinda hard to disagree with that imo. The overarching theme seems to be greedy devs are out to harm the kids. Are you saying you see something different in this thread?

The method of scaring people or shall I say planting fearful ideas in their mind makes them believe what you want them to believe to. Time and time again this method is used, like how it is used by Bush in the Iraq war. I think the same is happening when it comes to privacy and how Apple is capitalizing it to boost their sales. Apple is throwing a few developers under the bus just to provide this false sense of security to its users.
 
I believe the issue is not tracking in kids apps (yes crappy creepy devs do this), but that apple in closing it off entirely is creating problems for third party developers who also protect kids. Some of the apps I’m led to believe have some good parental contriol features that parents want. So killing them off and not working with them to find a great solution is not in parents or kids best interests

Thank you for the insightful, calm over point of view ... I honestly appreciate this cause dialog is key to realizing ones thought may not be the best point of view. Thank you!
 
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