Exactly…if it sells well, all my bloviating is moot. Such is the world of supply and demand and savvy marketing.
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Apple Denies Speculation Surrounding iPhone 16e's Lack of MagSafe
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For all the complaints about what the 16e doesn’t have or should have, Apple gave us some good decent stuff.
Guys the SE lineup has always been about keeping the price down Super Duper Low, Dollar Tree low. Now keep in mind inflation has a role too in how hard it is to keep prices low and for Apple 🍎 to make a profit too. Also within the past 4 years Apple has been shaking up and separating/differentiating there iPhone lineup.
The 16e has everything the SE crowd needs and then some with Apple Intelligence, snappy A18 chip and 8gb ram. MagSafe can be implemented with a 3rd party case. This phone is gonna be free with most cellular plans/trade ins and gonna sell like Hot Cakes 🥞 during back to school and holiday season. Cha ching Apple. CEO Tim Cook has created the perfect iPhone lineup. Steve Jobs would be proud. Can’t wait to see the iPhone 17 Air 🤤
Guys the SE lineup has always been about keeping the price down Super Duper Low, Dollar Tree low. Now keep in mind inflation has a role too in how hard it is to keep prices low and for Apple 🍎 to make a profit too. Also within the past 4 years Apple has been shaking up and separating/differentiating there iPhone lineup.
The 16e has everything the SE crowd needs and then some with Apple Intelligence, snappy A18 chip and 8gb ram. MagSafe can be implemented with a 3rd party case. This phone is gonna be free with most cellular plans/trade ins and gonna sell like Hot Cakes 🥞 during back to school and holiday season. Cha ching Apple. CEO Tim Cook has created the perfect iPhone lineup. Steve Jobs would be proud. Can’t wait to see the iPhone 17 Air 🤤
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The missing features are marginal at best. Is this SE the slam-dunk that the original was? Probably not, because the price difference isn't great enough.
But at least Apple's "budget" phone has finally abolished the asinine rounded edges that have degraded the later-gen SEs.
But at least Apple's "budget" phone has finally abolished the asinine rounded edges that have degraded the later-gen SEs.
We do care about the speed. If I was terribly worried about battery life through the first two years of having a 2022 iPhone SE, I probably wouldn't have had it. It isn't awful, but it's not really better than the iPhone 8 and it certainly depends on how efficient their (not there) programming is.
Yeah, you'd think that if Apple was going to
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Why would anyone think Apple would "at least upgrade the..." whatever in their lowest end phone?
Not to worry. If people really need MagSafe, there are plenty of options within Apple and other phone manufacturers.
Apple has gamed out the market for a budget iPhone long ago. The BOM (driving features), along with manufacturing costs and required percentage margin of both, needs to be in line for those looking for a budget iPhone at the right price.
Despite many here feeling otherwise, Apple's massive success manufacturing and selling 600,000 iPhones per day (on the average), and being one of the most successful tech companies in the world, gives them insight as to what's needed in an iPhone for people on a budget.
Personally... I don't need it, even though it's there on my 16PM iPhone.
It was probably cost-cutting move to take out MagSafe Qi2 and Ultra Wideband, but I bet they will be in the next “e” model 3-4 years from now.
If Apple wanted to differentiate they could’ve just said no Apple Intelligence and no 8gb Ram on the 16e. So if you want AI gotta get the the 16 standard at minimum. Pony up that extra $200 for that trillion dollar company 🍎
Because the SE models do not have MagSafe. This was expected. This is not a feature that was dropped. The SE3 did not have MagSafe.
Apple seemingly values apple intelligence over MagSafe. And if the $200 is a sticking point people will shop elsewhere.
my unsubstantiated rumour is that the 16E is simply a frankenstein of many old phones so that they could reuse old parts and tooling that have already paid off it's R&D.
The front came from the 14, and the back came from a iPhone XR. the XR didn't have magsafe either
The front came from the 14, and the back came from a iPhone XR. the XR didn't have magsafe either
I think, given their push for AI, that they'd prefer not to differentiate phones on that basis, if possible (even though they did it on the iPhone 15 vs. 15 Pro, probably because of the difference in RAM).
So I don't think that's where they'd want to do product differentation. And thus the absence of product differentiation in that category doesn't necessarily mean they weren't trying to do it elsewhere.
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Yep as there heavily investing in and pushing hard in Apple Intelligence they were forced to put it in the 16e. They know from the SE 3 that MagSafe can be easily implemented by a 3rd party case, so that’s a easy fix solution and cost cutting that can be easily done.
Here are my ideas on why no MagSafe and more thoughts:
1. Folks looking to upgrade from anything iPhone 12 and up might already have MagSafe accessories, in that case they will want to stay with the 16/16 Pro to protect their investment/experienxe.
2. iPhone 16e price may have tariff costs built into the price. When everything else will have to go up in price the 16e will be the most affordable option that doesn’t have to scale up.
3. Features the C1 modem/chip and that gets a bunch of the phone out in the market for real world testing. Also gets more folks on Apple Intelligence.
4. Another thing I’ll call out is that most people use their phones simply and if you want the most features of a toolset (smartphone) you buy the the flagships. But most Android buyers according to Android Authority bought a $150 Samsung A15 4G in 2024. Same statistics posted show iPhone 15 Pro Max $1199 sold the most units in 2024. Even with that most folks don’t know how to use their tools. But point is Apple is offering a $599 iPhone not a $150 phone. What would that even look like? Just checked on eBay (2.23.2025) folks will pay ~$189 for a used original iPhone 😮.
1. Folks looking to upgrade from anything iPhone 12 and up might already have MagSafe accessories, in that case they will want to stay with the 16/16 Pro to protect their investment/experienxe.
2. iPhone 16e price may have tariff costs built into the price. When everything else will have to go up in price the 16e will be the most affordable option that doesn’t have to scale up.
3. Features the C1 modem/chip and that gets a bunch of the phone out in the market for real world testing. Also gets more folks on Apple Intelligence.
4. Another thing I’ll call out is that most people use their phones simply and if you want the most features of a toolset (smartphone) you buy the the flagships. But most Android buyers according to Android Authority bought a $150 Samsung A15 4G in 2024. Same statistics posted show iPhone 15 Pro Max $1199 sold the most units in 2024. Even with that most folks don’t know how to use their tools. But point is Apple is offering a $599 iPhone not a $150 phone. What would that even look like? Just checked on eBay (2.23.2025) folks will pay ~$189 for a used original iPhone 😮.
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Yup. I think many of us have been looking at Apple adding "16" to the model number for this iPhone, and that's led us to think that it should've had all the same basic features as the basic 16, when really it's an iPhone SE with only some (substantial) upgrades. SE series buyers knew (at least most of them) that they weren't getting Magsafe, Ultrawideband, etc., and so Apple expects new customers for what was the SE series to know this too when they look at the 16e.
Thanks, nice to see some actual info on this, even if it's just a regulatory filing. It would also be nice if Apple's spec sheet was specific about confirming this. 29 watts for USB-C charging is a decent upgrade from the SE series' 18 watts using Lightning, if this filing is reflected in the actual manufactured 16e.
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Who gives a rat's ass why it doesn't have MagSafe wireless? What a boring, pointless debate. Wireless charging is a dumb gimmick, and if you haven't realized that by now... you're just serving as a tool. How many times do we have to point out that there's still a wire running to the charging pad, so it might as well be a cradle that you can plop your phone into and charge it directly. That would be faster and doesn't waste space inside the phone for inductors.
Max Tech believes the 16e is a worthy buy and a must upgrade from any older SE model or any iPhone older than the iPhone 15.
So Apple have released a phone in 2025 that doesn't charge wirelessly? It is not something I use myself, but its pretty much a standard on every mobile by now. Magsafe is handy for car phone holders though and I suppose a case can replicate that.
I think it does charge wirelessly, but with Qi instead of whatever Apple's method is.