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These are what I'm interested in. Vision Pro is the tech demo for a subset of people. These have the potential for wipe adoption.
While true regarding wide adoption, these wouldn’t even be the same thing.

XR-equivalent to the Vision Pro would be more expensive and also not for most people.

You think Meta’a $10,000 equivalent in XR glasses form factor was arbitrarily priced?

Finally Prosumer hardware is fundamentally isn’t for most people—and that’s a good thing for its target audience not to cut corners on a good and superior experience to consume, experience, and create content with less compromises to appeal to the average person.
 
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The Vision Pro is a prosumer product; mainstream sales isn’t the goal of such a product.

There has yet to be a prosumer standalone headset to succeed it or claim to be better at a cheaper price.

The target audience of such hardware doesn’t care or need it to: That’s the same exact case for the Macbook Pro, iPad Pro, Mac Pro, Mac Studio, iPhone Pro, the rumored iPhone foldable, and Apple’s other flagship prosumer products.

That’s the case of prosumer hardware in general: 5090, Canon/Sony/Panasonic DSLRs, and even EVs (Porsche Teycan)

You think someone who buys any of these things are concerned about the mainstream suales and reverence of such things?

No.
I agree, solid analysis. The “Pro” moniker is just a marketing ploy, and naive buyers are falling for it. It’s a tactic to slap a premium price on products like the Vision Pro, iPhone Pro, MacBook Pro, or high-end DSLRs, making people think they’re getting elite performance when it’s often just marginal gains for a niche that doesn’t need the hype.
 
Waiting for glasses that do Live closed captions. It's been the dream of mine since I was 10 years old in 1993 and got my first set of hearing aids. I know they already have some things but I want Apple's take--their live captions on the iPhone work great for me.
 
I only wear glasses for reading and screen work, so they wouldn’t capture much of anything interesting during times when I’m not already staring at a device.

Sunglasses might be more useful. AR navigation directions while I’m walking/cycling, etc, would be great. But then I wouldn’t want to wear them indoors…
 
But the 80’s nerd look is cool now days!
I'm guessing Apple will have Jeff Goldbum show off some chunky black frames, because he clearly can get away with them.

I'd wear a pair if they were affordable enough, and if connected maps functionality (presumably through my phone) improves to where I could stand on an unfamiliar street as a tourist and opt into little discreet tags telling me what all the buildings are. Even better, give me a breadcrumb trail to the outside of a chosen destination.

I'd prefer mirrorshades, though. I think it's time for me to go re-read William Gibson's "Virtual Light."
 
I bet these chips could be built in the US foundry too, avoiding the orange tax.
 
Hey Siri, what am I looking at?

Dong dong dong - Sorry didn't quite catch that.
Dong dong dong - One minute.
Dong dong dong - I can't do that.
"You'll need to unlock your iPhone to do that." (I still don't understand why I need to unlock it when it can verify it's me talking to it)
 
If the lenses themselves don't provide any function, then I'd much rather AirPods with cameras for Visual Intelligence and capturing video. They already provide audio and have Siri built in. Drive the Apple Intelligence chip from a connect iPhone or Apple Watch. Bring out glasses when they have an Augment Reality solution ready.
 
I really think trying to rush out glasses is a bad idea. It’s too early for the category. This will result in a flop and look bad for Apple. Let Meta fall down flat one their face. Only 2 million Meta Ray Bans have been sold since 2023 and who knows how often they are actually worn and used the way they are intended. This is a mistake. 2029 or 2030 should be the goal to release. Get the AI right first and keep working on miniaturization.
But Vision Pro shouldn’t be what it is. This is the solution people actually want. Not a strap on head mount to do spatial computing. Apple needs to innovate not copy. And if the other article posted about iPhone being obsolete in ten years due to AI is accurate, Apple needs an innovator at the top. Sure, everyone is cared for by an innovator not just the shareholders and stocks; this way all stakeholders can enjoy Apple rather than the top 1% and the executive team. Tim Crook needs let go for a real leader. Not someone to manage Steve’s innovation until there’s none left.
 
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Just placed my order for Ray Ban Meta from FramesDirect.com. I have been considering them for a few months and finally went into LensCrafters to try them on. The Wayfarers look pretty good to me and are a very similar style/shape to my current glasses/sunglasses. What was holding me back was the $525 quote from LensCrafters for the smartglasses and prescription.

FramesDirect had a sale on frames and prescription, and coupled with my Amex Offer, the final cost came out to $355 with prescription, Xtractive transitions, and Extended Protection Plan. I could've brought the final price down to $300 without the extra warranty but I wanted the peace of mind. I am already looking forward to the next-generation Metas with built-in display.

I am not on social media but still think it'll be cool to take POV videos sometimes on trails or bike rides with family. And the built-in speakers and microphones will come in handy during calls, workouts, and work meetings. I don't really like in-ear style AirPods or ear buds. While I currently love my Shokz OpenFit 2, the Metas will mean one less thing to carry/wear.
 
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I agree, solid analysis. The “Pro” moniker is just a marketing ploy, and naive buyers are falling for it. It’s a tactic to slap a premium price on products like the Vision Pro, iPhone Pro, MacBook Pro, or high-end DSLRs, making people think they’re getting elite performance when it’s often just marginal gains for a niche that doesn’t need the hype.
…But you ARE getting elite performance from Apple’s flagship prosumer devices a significant and meaningful prosumer segments appreciate and prefer that’s not naive—they’re often only the other option because Apple has the supply chain to pull it off—or far sooner than others.

That’s absolutely the case with the Vision Pro, iPad Pro, Pro Display XDR, Mac Studio, and Macbook Pro.

Prosumer devices such as the 5090 again consistently have that advantage that appeals to critical prosumer segments/areas Apple strategically also accommodates such as Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and major tech cities in which such audiences have the disposable income during their peak adult years to not derive themselves from the best products in categories they value/need.

A Vision Pro has no serious competition in the prosumer segment: Unfortunately majority of prosumer and non-prosumer headsets don’t even have HDR to even watch non-spatial premium content at professional quality, let alone Dolby Vision Pro + the laptop-level APU it has.

A Macbook Pro is significantly superior than most prosumer ultrabooks—especially its battery life paired with 64GB-128GB RAM configs with its single-core and GPU horsepower + its screen that’s a high PPI screen with 1600 peak nits + 1000 sustained nits performance.

An iPad Pro with its tandem OLED, nano-texture Dolby Vision 1600 peak nits, 1000 sustained nits is a cut above the competition.

A Mac Studio has no serious competitor for a prosumer all-in-one at its scale (Nvidia is finally addressing that and to an extent Strix Halo).


Apple understanding that spatial computing has to be fundamentally much more expensive than traditional computing has elected to prioritize prosumers first with their initial efforts in the computing category.

That’s the audience least impacted by the current economic downturns that also is computing at a level to pursue and seriously extending their computing hardware portfolio
with such kind of products.

Many others are conservative with their money and standoffish about the utility to their casual use and investment in computing hardware.

Many casual users merely want an entry with mediocre picture quality passable enough to render already pixelated graphics fast yet somehow cheaper than traditional computing hardware (a pipe dream without being a loss leader losing money supported by something else not actual selling the hardware at a profit).
 
I don't know if glasses like this (Apple, Meta, etc.) would have the capability, or if they would need to have more augmented reality features, but a device that allows for AI-powered live translation of written matter, signs, maps, names of streets and subway stations, etc. would be a boon to travelers if it meant they wouldn't have to stop what they're doing and point a phone at something.
This is what I use my current version of Meta's Ray Bans for and they're pretty good, if a bit slow...I have to imagine Apple (or Meta's) future glasses will be even better.
 
Then apple should install a laser like Cyclops alias Scott Summer from X-Men! Then stupid comments about my new glasses will be a thing of the past 😎

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So having something that's the same as the Meta glasses is not a copy? 🤔
Apple made truly innovative products that were mass market leaders under Jobs. Cook knows how to make money but he doesn’t know innovation. Meta took the right approach not Apple as Tim doesn’t know what to say yes or no to. He’s out of his league. A founder CEO is what’s needed.
 
I don't know if glasses like this (Apple, Meta, etc.) would have the capability, or if they would need to have more augmented reality features, but a device that allows for AI-powered live translation of written matter, signs, maps, names of streets and subway stations, etc. would be a boon to travelers if it meant they wouldn't have to stop what they're doing and point a phone at something.
That’s what the Even Reality glasses are; I’ve had them for almost a year and they are pretty awesome. If you already wear glasses or need translations they are amazing. https://www.evenrealities.com/
 
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But will they be compatible with prescription lens? If not, this is useless to folks that cannot use contacts or have perfect vision.
 
But will they be compatible with prescription lens? If not, this is useless to folks that cannot use contacts or have perfect vision.

Given the work on lenses for the Apple Vision Pro (and the fact that you can get the Meta glasses with a prescription), I am positive they'll work with prescription lenses.
 
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That’s what the Even Reality glasses are; I’ve had them for almost a year and they are pretty awesome. If you already wear glasses or need translations they are amazing. https://www.evenrealities.com/
Thanks, but I checked out their site and I only saw mentions of audio translation (which I believe Meta's glasses already do).

What I said I wanted to see was translation of written material - menus, signs, etc. Do the Even Reality glasses do that? The only example of the glasses translating that I saw on their site was of a conversation, in audio.
 
Apple made truly innovative products that were mass market leaders under Jobs. Cook knows how to make money but he doesn’t know innovation. Meta took the right approach not Apple as Tim doesn’t know what to say yes or no to. He’s out of his league. A founder CEO is what’s needed.

Okay, try to reply without mentioning Tim Cook's name please, because what I was asking is about what you said. Not about Tim Cook.

You said:
But Vision Pro shouldn’t be what it is. This is the solution people actually want. Not a strap on head mount to do spatial computing. Apple needs to innovate not copy.

You just said "Apple needs to innovate not copy," while praising a rumored product that appears to be a copy of Meta's glasses. My question for you is how is copying Meta glasses innovation that you approve of?
 
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