Apple Details App Store Changes to Comply With Texas Age Verification Law

[Hajj.david]

Statistically, you're more likely to be a victim of violent crime in Birmingham or Memphis than in Chicago. So why hasn't the National Guard been deployed in those cities?

Why is everyone always so obsessed with Chicago? Memphis has a higher crime rate.

I agree the national guard should be sent there too, and it looks like that is in the works:

MSN

Mass shootings are a completely normal occurrence in Chicago because Chicago is in the United States, where mass shootings are a completely normal occurrence. The US needs universal healthcare and gun control, not military occupation. If you want to live in a police state then feel free to move to China or Russia or North Korea.

And the locals DO NOT call it Chiraq.

Yes they do, when I lived there everyone called it chiraq. There is about 50 songs about chiraq and they even made a musical called "Chi-Raq". I moved to Houston where guns are rampant and there is nowhere near the number of mass shootings and killings that occurred in Chicago. It's one thing to want a police state and another thing to want to live safely and securely in your home without roaming band of criminals stealing, killing, and destroying your property.

Not a hard request. Anyways we are getting way off topic no need to engage further, the thread is about age verification not what hive of criminality you pretend is peaches and rainbows.

 

[picpicmac]

It's one thing to want a police state and another thing to want to live safely and securely in your home without roaming band of criminals stealing, killing, and destroying your property.

We should thank you for spelling out the populist argument that demagogues use to become dictators.

If anyone needs help: The orange is the sales-job, the bold red is the real goal.

There is no good reason for Trump to be deploying NG to these cities. He simply hates both 1) cities who didn't vote for him, 2) people with too much melanin in their skin.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I agree the national guard should be sent there too, and it looks like that is in the works:

MSN

Yes they do, when I lived there everyone called it chiraq. There is about 50 songs about chiraq and they even made a musical called "Chi-Raq". I moved to Houston where guns are rampant and there is nowhere near the number of mass shootings and killings that occurred in Chicago. It's one thing to want a police state and another thing to want to live safely and securely in your home without roaming band of criminals stealing, killing, and destroying your property.

Not a hard request. Anyways we are getting way off topic no need to engage further, the thread is about age verification not what hive of criminality you pretend is peaches and rainbows.

Let's agree to disagree, on lots of things, for now.

I do think you should consider the implications, even for yourself, of living in a militarized police state.
I promise you it has some really really REALLY large downsides you likely have not fully considered.

(people are usually fleeing that to come to the United States, for instance)

You're right, we are off topic and we'll circle back now.

👍 ✌️

 

[turbineseaplane]

The same reason they’re obsessed with their genitalia. They can’t stop thinking about it.

Guess which political paRty?


A former North Dakota state legislator for 45 years was sentenced today to 10 years in prison for traveling to Prague in the Czech Republic, where he paid to sexually exploit children.

According to court documents, Raymon (Ray) Everett Holmberg, 81, of Grand Forks, traveled to Prague approximately 14 times between 2011 and 2021. During these trips, while staying at a brothel that catered to men looking to engage in commercial sex with adolescent boys, Holmberg paid for sex acts with boys.



From the ICE website archive

 

[Jeeve Stubbs]

A good and welcome law. I hope other states follow suit.

 

[jarman92]

I agree the national guard should be sent there too, and it looks like that is in the works:

MSN

Yes they do, when I lived there everyone called it chiraq. There is about 50 songs about chiraq and they even made a musical called "Chi-Raq". I moved to Houston where guns are rampant and there is nowhere near the number of mass shootings and killings that occurred in Chicago. It's one thing to want a police state and another thing to want to live safely and securely in your home without roaming band of criminals stealing, killing, and destroying your property.

Not a hard request. Anyways we are getting way off topic no need to engage further, the thread is about age verification not what hive of criminality you pretend is peaches and rainbows.

Lol last year Houston had a violent crime rate of 1148 (per 100k) versus just 540 for Chicago (source). So thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about and are spreading Republican propaganda.

 

[Act3]

A good and welcome law. I hope other states follow suit.

Because parents are lazy?

 

[Act3]

Lol last year Houston had a violent crime rate of 1148 (per 100k) versus just 540 for Chicago (source). So thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about and are spreading Republican propaganda.

That is why their party likes the lazy, naive, and uneducated.

 

[xbjllb]

Jawhohl.

 

[Jeeve Stubbs]

Because parents are lazy?

Yes, among other things. My generation (X) of parents, who are basically teenagers in an adult's body, are awful at educating kids, giving bad examples and letting them do anything they please. And Y and Z are even worse. I see it everyday. If parents surrender their authority, duty, and responsibility, then sorry but the state has to intervene somehow.

 

[Act3]

Yes, among other things. My generation (X) of parents, who are basically teenagers in an adult's body, are awful at educating kids, giving bad examples and letting them do anything they please. And Y and Z are even worse. I see it everyday. If parents surrender their authority, duty, and responsibility, then sorry but the state has to intervene somehow.

I'm a generation X parent. I enlisted in the military after high school. I have zero college credits to my name. Both of my adult children have bachelor's degrees, (one of them has 3 degrees) and support themselves. Zero college loan debt.

The government shouldn't have to control everyone because of lazy parenting. Every generation has had them. Want to blame a generation, blame the boomers for our national debt.

 

[Naraxus]

Literally everything Republicans say is a lie and always has been.

Right. Because the Democratic party are the standardbearers of the truth

 

[Act3]

Right. Because the Democratic party sre the standardbearers of the truth

If you think any politician bears the truth regardless of political party, you might be naive.

 

[Naraxus]

I mean, the Chicago thing ..
This is just not something any American should want.

State & Local leaders are defiantly objecting to these actions and the President should be listening to them.

Calling for arrests of elected officials?

Do people not understand how dangerous and inappropriate this rhetoric is?

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How about calling for the murder of a former State House Speaker? That's ok right just so long as he has a D at the end of his name right? https://nypost.com/2025/10/08/us-ne...-jones-cancels-fundraiser-after-text-scandal/

 

[turbineseaplane]

How about calling for the murder of a former State House Speaker? That's ok right just so long as he has a D at the end of his name right? https://nypost.com/2025/10/08/us-ne...-jones-cancels-fundraiser-after-text-scandal/

No, that's not ok at all!

What have I said that would make you think I would think that's ok?

I don't want people getting murdered, or prosecuted when they shouldn't be, nor do I want cities invaded by our own troops...I don't want to be waging illegal wars or engaging in unlawful strikes ... I don't want any of what's been going on!

Goodness man -- we are all Americans here, are we not!?

(Please excuse me to those of you outside the scope of this obviously)

What I do want is the party that used to REVERE the Constitution to actually follow what it says as well as abide by the legal precedents and norms that have been established for decades (and longer). I'd also like the Congress to actually do its job. So much of the awfulness occurring right now could be stopped immediately if Republicans in control of Congress would act.

 

[Jeeve Stubbs]

I'm a generation X parent. I enlisted in the military after high school. I have zero college credits to my name. Both of my adult children have bachelor's degrees, (one of them has 3 degrees) and support themselves. Zero college loan debt.

The government shouldn't have to control everyone because of lazy parenting. Every generation has had them. Want to blame a generation, blame the boomers for our national debt.

I wasn't referring to college education or national debt, but to parenting. Yes, lazy parenting has always existed, but only got worse in recent decades. There may still be good parents with a sense of authority and pride, but by and large, as far as I can tell, today's kids are more self-centered, screen-centered, bad-mannered, and respectless of others than those of previous generations. And their parents couldn't care less.

 

[Act3]

I wasn't referring to college education or national debt, but to parenting. Yes, lazy parenting has always existed, but only got worse in recent decades. There may still be good parents with a sense of authority and pride, but by and large, as far as I can tell, today's kids are more self-centered, screen-centered, bad-mannered, and respectless of others than in the past. And their parents couldn't care less.

There has always been poor parenting. We do not need a police state to tell us how to parent. It only seems worse because news travels instantly now.

 

[Starfia]

Never mind allocating government resources to help educate and empower children with respect to how the Internet works, how the online advertising business works, how social media algorithms work, how well-known psychological phenomena work, et cetera. Let's mostly just restrict stuff and associate network activity with ID cards. 🇺🇸

 

[212rikanmofo]

Literally everything Republicans say is a lie and always has been.

don't trust either side, they're all of the same. but democrats lie, much much more

 

[jarman92]

don't trust either side, they're all of the same. but democrats lie, much much more

Cite one Democratic lie that's even in the same galaxy as "the 2020 election was stolen"

 

[M5RahuL]

No, it’s not. That’s mealy-mouthed, useless bothsidesism.

It absolutely is! A simple fact that clearly eludes simple minds like….yup!

 

[turbineseaplane]

Always relevant to these discussions, in various threads

 

[MacD]

LOL. Lots of finger pointing. Everyone is corrupt on both sides of the fence. No one is perfect, not even you or me. If you study history, you will see the patterns that cycle through ~100 years or so. Different times, difference places, different situations, but it's all the same.

Prohibition was from 1920 to 1933. At some point you got put the breaks on things, but then everyone takes it too far and then down the road, it all reverses. Even the ominious COPPA. Every web app software had support for it, are you over the age of 13? Honesty policy, doesn't really do much though.

I think there needs to be some responsibility somewhere, but most everything is empty threats. All those stupid cookies agreements we have to agree to all the time? The pron sites that actually follow the rules of governments are the big dogs, but then that will just open up the flood gates to mores sites and less consolidation. Too many to go after.

What bothers me the most is all these states doing their own laws. I realize each state has the right to do that, and our country is so polarized now (this thread is an example of that) that you have Texas doing big state government just like California doing it's own and impacting everyone else. The thought that I have to consider every possible state law for anything my business does, is over the top for small businesses. But typically small businesses are not targeted, so that big states can "tax" companies through the courts. It would be nice if we could, as a country, make laws that we all abide by, so Apple doesn't have to build a system just for Texas, and another system, just for California, and yet another system for EU... ok, don't get me started on the EU.

haha. Well, anyhow, I'm sure I made enemies of both sides here... but with so many laws, there are not enough courts and people to enforce them all. The only people hurting from these laws are the big dogs. Yes, they impact the consumer, clicking Im over 13, clicking, yes I accept cookies, tossing down your ID so you can have an Apple account. I'd rather give my ID to Apple, than to Joe Slick running a site.

Next we will have digital ID's and that is where all this will go, and there will be good that comes out of it and there will be bad that comes out of it. We all hate change, myself included.

PS - AT&T leaked all my info included social security number, it's all on the Internet for everyone to enjoy. So quite honestly, why not my picture too? They can probably find it somewhere online, LinkedIn, FB, or somewhere else.

 

[turbineseaplane]

LOL. Lots of finger pointing. Everyone is corrupt on both sides of the fence. No one is perfect, not even you or me. If you study history, you will see the patterns that cycle through ~100 years or so. Different times, difference places, different situations, but it's all the same.

No, this is whataboutism and both siding which obscures and deflects from bad actors and actions.

This does a disservice to reality.

 

[lilkwarrior]

Texas does not define what a commercially reasonable method of verification entails, and Apple hasn't specified how age verification will work.

This is why no individual state should have this much power, and these concerns should be handled at the federal level.

It's basically state-by-state extortion that undermines significantly the technical hurdles associated with complying arbitrarily led by tech illiterate government officials.

Imagine being a developer and getting screwed over out of left field suddenly by some random state who passed these sort of laws who don't offer the systems to comply with their law involving personal-identifiable information