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".... incorporate knowledge of the user's geolocation,..."

Nokidding thats needed. Google maps: enter dr rodriguez, and it finds a Dr rodriquez in your vicinity.

Do the same in apple maps and you get rodriguez fish restaurant 3000 miles away...

THIS. A thousand ****ing times.
 
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I live in Toronto and when I tell Siri "Main Street" it gives me Main Street Vancouver, which is over 2000 miles away. Why in the world would it not give me Main Street, Toronto?

Yes, this exactly.

Siri should know the closest 'London' for example and route there, and give me directions to London, ON not London, UK even though it's bigger.

I've done the 'take me to 1 main street' just to get direction to the local town I'm in's main street, but Siri chooses some random city 2,000 miles away, so I always have to say the city. It's dumb.

Same with 'Take me to the closest Olive Garden'. Don't ask me 'which one?' in these cases. I said 'closest'.
 
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Yes, this exactly.

Siri should know the closest 'London' for example and route there, and give me directions to London, ON not London, UK even though it's bigger.

I've done the 'take me to 1 main street' just to get direction to the local town I'm in's main street, but Siri chooses some random city 2,000 miles away, so I always have to say the city. It's dumb.

Same with 'Take me to the closest Olive Garden'. Don't ask me 'which one?' in these cases. I said 'closest'.

This is what you get though for a company and the majority of its users being super over paranoid over privacy.
Theirs a HUGE reason Alexa and Google’s assistant are miles better then Siri, and actually work.....
 
I live in Toronto and when I tell Siri "Main Street" it gives me Main Street Vancouver, which is over 2000 miles away. Why in the world would it not give me Main Street, Toronto?

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exactly. No location sense
 
So this is the technique that causes Siri to send me across the ocean when asking directions to local businesses. Nice.

Glad to read there’s some serious computations going on to present crappy responses.
 
FFS Apple, you're a global company, act like that, why do people outside of the States have to pay more for an iPhone and get mostly a lot less, get on with it.
 
that is very nice, but i live in the middle of the kalahari desert
me: "hey siri, where us the nearest structure?"
siri: "the nearest structure is that camelthorn tree (Acacia erioloba) located 76 km from your yhurt."
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I live in Toronto and when I tell Siri "Main Street" it gives me Main Street Vancouver, which is over 2000 miles away. Why in the world would it not give me Main Street, Toronto?

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simply because there is an apple store near there
 
Forget names, can you get it to just schedule a calendar appointment properly for me?
Aww, forget it. Will keep using it to set timers as that's pretty much all it can do reliably.
 
Siri will always suck, Apple refuses to fix it going around this whole ridiculous ‘privacy’ rubbish! Siri is as embarrassing on today’s tech world just as much as ios’s auto correction is! Both utterly utterly useless.

Just how is that ridiculous, just a couple of hours I read an article about identity theft, I want my phone and computers as secure as it can get.
The article says that Identity theft went up substantially last few years, the more we use services online the better the security and privacy must get.
I block most of Google and facebook, and lots of others, I have Little Snitch installed, use a VPN even at home and use a host file blocker with 10's of thousands of entries.
I don't want my privacy nor my security compromised by for instance Android/Google/Facebook amongst others.

This is what you get though for a company and the majority of its users being super over paranoid over privacy.
Theirs a HUGE reason Alexa and Google’s assistant are miles better then Siri, and actually work.....

Reminds me of something which happened a while ago, wasn't that google that recorded a conversation and send it to friends, luckily no harm was done but imagine you said something bad about that friend, or even worse like (example) having an extramarital relation and they find out, plenty of other examples more I can think of.
 
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For my at home AI tasks I bought a cheap enough Amazon echo, despite owning two iPhones, two iPads, a MacBook Pro an IMac and two Apple TVs, why? Because Siri is seriously garbage. Alexa is far far far superior at completing 99% of things I ask it.
 
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For my at home AI tasks I bought a cheap enough Amazon echo, despite owning two iPhones, two iPads, a MacBook Pro an IMac and two Apple TVs, why? Because Siri is seriously garbage. Alexa is far far far superior at completing 99% of things I ask it.

I got an Echo dot for Christmas, love it, so so so useful and unlike a Siri, it actually works!
 
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I live in a metro area, Charlotte, NC so this search should not be difficult... if I wanted the hours for ‘Best Buy Soccer’ I would have added the word ‘Soccer’ to my query.

Siri must not like NC residents. I'm south of Asheville, NC, and asked for the weather in Burnsville [without stating the state of NC]. Instead of giving me the weather just a few miles north of me, it gives me the weather in Burnsville, MN, which is many, many, many miles north of me! Siri has location services privileges - so why isn't it using them?
 
Siri must not like NC residents. I'm south of Asheville, NC, and asked for the weather in Burnsville [without stating the state of NC]. Instead of giving me the weather just a few miles north of me, it gives me the weather in Burnsville, MN, which is many, many, many miles north of me! Siri has location services privileges - so why isn't it using them?

Weather in Burnsville, United States of America
Partly cloudy - August 9, 5:00 PM
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88°
°C | °F

Precipitation: 62%
Wind: 15 mph
Humidity: 39%
hava nice day!
 
I use Siri quite a bit and it works well for me. I've never understood the complaints, but to each his own.

The only real gripe I have with it is that Apple has never fulfilled the promise of keeping your commands with Siri in context and learning your habits.

A small example: if Siri misunderstands the text message you're dictating, you can't say, "Change the message" and dictate a whole new message while retaining the recipient. You pretty much have to just cancel it and start all over.

A larger example: Siri occasionally confuses my wife's name with the name of someone in my address book that I never text or call. When trying to call or text my wife (Deanne) Siri will occasionally say, "What do you want to say to Leann?"

Why Siri thinks I would suddenly want to text someone I have never once texted instead of the person I text multiple times daily is beyond me. But again, that's more of that contextual learning Apple hyped up so much of early on.
 
Google maps: enter dr rodriguez, and it finds a Dr rodriquez in your vicinity.

Do the same in apple maps and you get rodriguez fish restaurant 3000 miles away...
The other day, while sitting in my car, I asked Siri for driving directions to a local (and very good) Gelato place. Siri misheard me slightly, and suggested a Bed & Breakfast. In Italy. For me to drive to. From California. That's not even possible, unless the directions include driving my car to an Air Force base and pulling into the back of a waiting C-130 cargo plane.

This new work they've done sounds nice. But they could have implemented a much simpler sanity check a long time ago: if you're asking for directions, and the result Siri finds is more than a 2-hour drive (or pick some reasonable number - could be hours or miles, say 100 miles) then, first, Siri should try much harder to find a local near-match, and second, if it really wants to go with some location 500 miles away, it should alert you, "Hmm, the nearest match I found is in Las Vegas, that's a five hour drive, is that really what you want?" In the unlikely event you actually are going to spend the next 3-72 hours driving, taking 5 seconds to say, "yes, Siri, that really is what I want", isn't going to hurt anything.

I've had too many times that I've asked for directions to something across town (often that I could drive to just fine, simply looking for the optimal path right now, given traffic), and it gives me directions to another state, and I don't notice until I've driven a block or two and realize that it wants me to get on the freeway.
 
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Siri is alright. It’s not as good as google assistant or Alexa but it works well enough for me. I do welcome any improvements though.
 
Here's the problem with Siri: It's users. Privacy is a major plus but when the user base is so paranoid that they don't even want maps etc. to have their location you can't get mad when Apple's AI assistant recommends places thousands of miles away.
 
This is what you get though for a company and the majority of its users being super over paranoid over privacy.
Theirs a HUGE reason Alexa and Google’s assistant are miles better then Siri, and actually work.....

I don't get what you're trying to say. Give me an example where Apple's privacy stance hinders Siri?
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Here's the problem with Siri: It's users. Privacy is a major plus but when the user base is so paranoid that they don't even want maps etc. to have their location you can't get mad when Apple's AI assistant recommends places thousands of miles away.

That makes no sense. If you're asking Siri to give you directions somewhere is HAS TO KNOW where you are right now. Siri has this information, it's just not contextually smart like it should be.
 
Just how is that ridiculous, just a couple of hours I read an article about identity theft, I want my phone and computers as secure as it can get.
The article says that Identity theft went up substantially last few years, the more we use services online the better the security and privacy must get.
I block most of Google and facebook, and lots of others, I have Little Snitch installed, use a VPN even at home and use a host file blocker with 10's of thousands of entries.
I don't want my privacy nor my security compromised by for instance Android/Google/Facebook amongst others.



Reminds me of something which happened a while ago, wasn't that google that recorded a conversation and send it to friends, luckily no harm was done but imagine you said something bad about that friend, or even worse like (example) having an extramarital relation and they find out, plenty of other examples more I can think of.

Right as my previous post was removed by the usual moderator I’ll refraise it.

For AI you are other have a system that works or you don’t, Siri clearly does not, I have no problem with Alexa and she doesn’t breach privacy. I don’t consider a assistant looking at my geographical location so it can direct to the nearest place I asked it to find to be a privacy or security issue? Yet some do, but you’ll never ever have an assistant that works if you don’t allow that access.

It’s regards to identity theft, it can be stolen by people rummaging through your can get all the info they need if skilled enough to steal your identity, yes it can be a concern online, and not using the services you mentioned is best, but it’s not fair to flat out accuse Android as the cause of identity theft! Because it can be stolen in so many other ways.
It’s like saying murders have increased yet how many people have you personally known to be murdered? How many people use online services every single day, but how many have their identity stolen?

I think the majority it’s of users would much prefer a useful working assistant over no access to your location as an example for its services.

One question to you, what will you do if every car comes with Alexa or Google Assistant in the future and you can’t turn it off? I ask as Alexa is being implemented more and more by car manufactures.
Would it be enough to affect your decision about a car, especially as they are becoming more and more connected now.

Apple’s issues with privacy is what stops Siri from working, yet from the billions who use the services I’d imagine it’s a tiny percentage who are affected by any crime.
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I don't get what you're trying to say. Give me an example where Apple's privacy stance hinders Siri?
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That makes no sense. If you're asking Siri to give you directions somewhere is HAS TO KNOW where you are right now. Siri has this information, it's just not contextually smart like it should be.

Well Alexa is run on Amazon’s servers right, Siri is run on the device itself as I understand, people see Amazons approach, as does Apple, as a major privacy issue, yet Alexa works, Siri does not.
And then you have utter idiots like my brother in law who told me not so long ago how Amazon is recording every single thing you say when you have an echo regardless if your using Alexa or not... I pointed out his flaw with that argument, like storage space and Amazon has better things to spend it’s money on then endless racks of servers...
But when you do use the service they learn from what you’ve asked, so they function better, again people have issue with this including Apple.

Now I can’t remember it exactly, but I think some were suggesting how Apple could get around it’s privacy issues and still make Siri work, but they haven’t don’t yet.
 
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they should just get the rights to google assistant or alexa, since siri is garbage at this point.
They could also invest more in their machine learning team... the company has so much cash yet they refuse to put it to good use. Apple is a company run by the marketing department these days.
 
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They could also invest more in their machine learning team... the company has so much cash yet they refuse to put it to good use. Apple is a company run by the marketing department these days.

but they won't, so at least using an established assistant is the next best thing.
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but they won't, so at least using an established assistant is the next best thing.

A la Qi charging, google maps, 3rd party email clients etc...
 
Apparently my southern accent is beyond Siri's ability to comprehend. (no one else has ever had a problem) I'll ask a question or request directions and the response from Siri is truly amazing wrong, it almost seems deliberate. A severely brain damage five year old child gives better responses. It would be helpful if Siri could repeat my request. As it stands now, it is very frustrating. Rephrasing the question rarely helps. The failure rate with my wife is even higher.
 
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