Common sense, doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the simple approach to apple is gone, apple is making the products and more complicated steps then ever just to fix an issue they couldn’t fix or identify and the products are buggier then ever
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Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced Data Protection Is Enabled
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In this case there is no USB-C port because these devices have no ports at all.
This is what Apple wants to move toward with the iPhone apparently. And I don’t like it because we can already see the issues. If they could come up with a true wireless solution that works for everyone (not just Apple Store techs) as well as a plain old USB cable does, then I would be interested to see that. But even if they do it will probably be proprietary and locked down.
The simple fact is that for many things, there will never be a better solution than a physical cable connection.
The comment was regarding “doing your research”. That’s not research nor is there any fact-based analysis. It’s just ranting.
You are wrong. Apple never sees your keys.
Whether you have ADP turned on or off your data is always encrypted on Apple's servers. Normally your data on their servers is encrypted using keys that Apple holds on to. Which allows them to decrypt your data when needed.
Turning ADP on, takes the private key out of Apple's hands and puts it in yours, making you fully responsible, and the sole person who has access to it.
Turning ADP off does not grant Apple access to your keys, all it does is re-encrypt your data using Apple's own keys as it normally would.
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Some data. Several items are not decryptable by Apple, such as the keychain and health data.
I had to remove three of my devices (2009 iMac, 2012 Macs mini, 2016 iPhone SE) from my iCloud account (and update my HomePod) before I could activate ADP. So I created an "alt" iCloud account and added it to "Family Sharing" so I could access all my purchases and use services on those devices (and still check for software updates).
There already is. It doesn't just willy nilly turn it on. It checks your iCloud account and makes sure all your registered devices are compatible. If it finds any that aren't, you have to remove them from your account.
My HomePod was registered and it made me either upgrade it or remove it before it would continue.
The issue at hand arises after people buy new devices that aren't running the latest version and need to be updated. If you've activated ADP, that device cannot connect to your iCloud account. Is it a problem? Yes. Apple needs to find a real fix for it by allowing new devices to connect directly to their servers for an initial update.
Your devices do not become obsolete. They may become less useful if you need to access your iCloud account. But then again it is your decision to activate ADP or not.
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See... my previous response
Apple cannot update devices sitting on shelves in stores. They also have no idea when those devices will be purchased and used. Delaying ADP until all devices have been upgraded is not an option.
When you attempt to turn on ADP it will not do so if you have devices that are not compatible, unless you remove them from your account.
When you buy a device that needs to be upgraded... It takes a minute to turn ADP off, update your new device, and turn ADP back on. I agree it is an inconvenience, but it is not the end of the world as so many here seem to think it is.
When you activate ADP, you're told that you're locking down your devices/account quite a bit more and there are tradeoffs - one of them being that you can't do certain things. If you want to do those things, you have to turn off ADP.
Far from...I was posting this everywhere a month ago when I bought a new mini and for the life of myself couldn't figure out how to get it to startup/install...after 3 days it hit me that I had just updated all my devices for ADP...turned it off, installed the mini, turned it back on
It was literally a button push and 5 minute reversal...too bad I had to figure out that problem on my own a month ago
Very similar here. I have 14 Sonos products in my house, so tough to justify a Homepod...That said, for $79 each I have gotten 3 minis and do like aspects of them. Some respected reviews have already putout that the new Homepod is producing the best sound that they have ever heard though...
Same here...but I figured it out on my own after returning one mini to Best Buy and trying again...then I remembered te updates needed when starting ADP...it hit me that is why it couldn't get online....needs update, but can't because of account ADP.
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I don't even use ADP. I doubt anyone wants to see pictures of my dog.
OK, here you go:
OK, here you go:
Why don't they just ship with with the latest OS??
🤷♂️. I know I know.....supply chain timing may prevent that......but it is embarrassing they don't catch this in their testing.if I was someone who worried about being targeted, I’d create a new Apple ID just for my primary iPhone and Mac.
This level of security isn’t designed for Jaime nerdy homemaker who has dozens of apple devices, some new, some old, some in cold storage for development or testing. It’s just too complicated for a regular person who buys tons of apple devices
This level of security isn’t designed for Jaime nerdy homemaker who has dozens of apple devices, some new, some old, some in cold storage for development or testing. It’s just too complicated for a regular person who buys tons of apple devices
Good to know on how to update. Turning it off temporarily may be better.
I’m curious why they didn’t include that long time frame between turning off Advanced Data Protection and turning it back on again. When I tried turning it back on I got a message saying there’s been too many changes to this device and now I have to wait thru some period of time before enabling again.
I’m sure that problem would be handled by some other team, though, so they don’t care.
I’m sure that problem would be handled by some other team, though, so they don’t care.
Well this is not good. Hopefully Apple can fix this bug so people won’t have to do the workaround.
