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That only affected a small number of users with specific apps under very specific circumstances. And it was fixed long ago.

Ahhh no. It still exists for quite a large number of people and thus far, Microsoft is doing very little to correct it. No public acknowledgement is being made (aside from the placebo patches which fixed a small number of end users) and so far, the only feedback that has been given has been to upgrade the system to W2K3.

End result = not fixed.
 
So... they can't even get Back to My Mac working properly and you guys expect this thing will actually work?

Technically, Back to My Mac does work. The problems are most commonly with cheap routers (read crappy) and a lack of knowledge on how to configure and forward ports. That is out of the control of Apple.
 
Sounds like this would be in high demand based on the comments in this thread. You could add me to that list. I would love something like this!

I am just sad that I bought my 1TB Time Capsule only a few months ago :( I still haven't even ripped half my DVDs.

P.S. Anyone in here have a lot of experience with Hand Brake? I would say 1 out of 5 movies I rip gets all screwed up with either the audio out of sync or chapters being skipped and screwed up video etc. Is this pretty common with HB??? It is starting to really piss me off :mad:

Bring on the Time Capsule Pro Apple :D

Dump HandBrake, buy (yes, it's worth the cash for something that just works) Roxio Popcorn.
 
It would be very interesting for apple to make a unit that really brings the whole entertainment (music, movies, pictures, etc) to a centralized server for the home. Here is the main sticking point:

IF IT WILL NOT PLAY XVID, AVI,MKV AND OTHER FILE AND CONTAINER FORMATS THAN THEY MIGHT AS WELL NOT MAKE THIS!!!

As we all know with many apple products, they stick to their monopoly, i.e. MP4 and apple friendly formats. This is the reason I have stuck with just their computers (just bought a MBP, upgrade from powerbook G4) and not products like apple tv, iphone, ipod....

Love the company, hate what they have become.

Hope life is smiling on you all.

You know... Perian will allow you to play those formats...and it's a free Pref Pane.
 
Please! Apple still can't get front row right. Shared cover art in front row still doesn't show up and leopard is over a year old now. Yes I hope someone from apple reads this, as they are not reading their own support discussion forum. Someone in Apple QA needs to go! When you have user after user complaining about this functionality not working for over a year on your own support forum, and do nothing, something else is wrong. I don't see Apple getting a media server right if they can't get front row correct (in leopard).

Two threads on this over 1 year old issue:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1197140&tstart=0

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?referrerid=59552&t=461932


:mad:

I have zero issues with cover art, if you are talking about movies. Music-wise my album has been fine, but on that front I haven't done anything extensive. Use MetaX to write the metadata in your .mov files and FrontRow (and iTunes for that matter) will happily show all cover art.
 
Ahhh no. It still exists for quite a large number of people and thus far, Microsoft is doing very little to correct it. No public acknowledgement is being made (aside from the placebo patches which fixed a small number of end users) and so far, the only feedback that has been given has been to upgrade the system to W2K3.

End result = not fixed.

Please back up this claim - or we can dismiss it.

The feedback from Microsoft that I've seen is:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946676/

July 21, 2008

A bug has been discovered in the way that the initial release of Windows Home Server manages file transfer and balancing across multiple hard drives. In certain cases, depending on application use patterns, timing, and the workload that is placed on the Windows Home Server-based computer, certain files could become corrupted. ...

RESOLUTION
...To resolve this problem, install the Windows Home Server Power Pack 1 update.

For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 944289 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944289/ ) Description of the Windows Home Server Power Pack 1 update​

Please, if you have evidence that it wasn't fixed almost half a year ago - post the links.
 
Originally Posted by Eidorian
Why?

Remote into it.

With what? That's a naive response. Imagine the home user purchases this device only with no other computers in the home.

I'm sorry, but did you miss the main idea that we're talking about a home file server here?

I can't for the life of me figure out why someone who didn't have any computers in the home would go out and buy a home file server! :eek:
 
What's the point of it without another computer then?

This fabled device has not been defined. What Apple products have strictly followed other similar marketplace devices? One cannot make a comparison with what HP is doing (which is crap on the home scene) or other vendors.

If it has no video out then it is an Apple Airport Extreme with hard drive attached. The Time Capsule also has this functionality in the form of remote storage.

The Apple TV has local storage, video out and input in (albeit remote only) and does not require another computer to operate.

So where do you think this fabled device would sit? In between these two appliances? Above the Mac mini? As a full server for the home? - Which just brings us back to a power munching full computer as some have put forth as the negative. Apple have already provided a lower power file sharing appliance in two forms.

The original post talks about a notion of a media server-esque device, or to further clarify my points, this thread is steering towards the idea of a Mac mini replacement for home theatre setups. Tell me if I have misread the trail of posts.
 
This fabled device has not been defined. What Apple products have strictly followed other similar marketplace devices? One cannot make a comparison with what HP is doing (which is crap on the home scene) or other vendors.

My BS alarms just went off the scale here.

The MediaSmart server from HP is spot on for the home. You might not want to give one to your grandmother (give her a Drobo as long as she's not colour-blind).


If it has no video out then it is an Apple Airport Extreme with hard drive attached.

The HP MediaSmart has no VGA/DVI or other video out, nor keyboard/mouse ports.

And it's much more than a wireless router.


As a full server for the home? - Which just brings us back to a power munching full computer as some have put forth as the negative. Apple have already provided a lower power file sharing appliance in two forms.

The Mini is brain-damaged for a home server. One laptop drive - are you kidding?

Please look again at the MediaSmart with an open mind - it's like a Mini, but with 4 hot-swap drive slots with flexible post-RAID configurations, intelligent power management, and a very user friendly web UI.
 
What do you think the chances are that this home server functionality could be added to existing Time Capules through a software update?
 
My BS alarms just went off the scale here.

The MediaSmart server from HP is spot on for the home. You might not want to give one to your grandmother (give her a Drobo as long as she's not colour-blind).




The HP MediaSmart has no VGA/DVI or other video out, nor keyboard/mouse ports.

And it's much more than a wireless router.




The Mini is brain-damaged for a home server. One laptop drive - are you kidding?

Please look again at the MediaSmart with an open mind - it's like a Mini, but with 4 hot-swap drive slots with flexible post-RAID configurations, intelligent power management, and a very user friendly web UI.

For some reason I don't think he/she gets it.
 
MacWorld

Do you guys think this home server will be released at macworld 2009? Or it this rumored product just in the development stages? What do you think?:cool:
 
Do you guys think this home server will be released at macworld 2009? Or it this rumored product just in the development stages? What do you think?:cool:

I think it's a fantasy and is not a real product from Apple. But that's just me.

That said, I am hoping for some more sharing options in the next desktop version of iTunes.
 
Yes, but some people will quickly grow tired of paying more than everyone else and Apple is going to take the heat for the crashes. Apple needs to be careful that their arrogance in the market doesnt slowly turn on them. Right now they are ok being marketed only to the wealthy, but that wont last forever.

There's a saying in Finland: "Poor people can't afford cheap things". Meaning: Cheap stuff is usually crap that ends up costing more in the long run because they break down and/or don't function properly. If you don't have much money, it's usually better to buy something that costs a bit more, but which is also better built/functions better.

Yes yes, year after year we get the stupid comparisons that show how you can get better "specs" for same money if you bought a PC. But there are more to computer than mere specs. Do you decide which car to buy based on hp alone? No you do not. Do you buy your house based on the amount of square meters alone? No you do not. And if you buy your computer based solely on how many Mhz and GB it has, you would be dumb.

Are Macs marketed to the "wealthy"? I don't think so. Are Macs suitable for only the wealthy? No, not even if they cost more (which they don't). They might cost more than bottom-of-the-barrel PC's, but those PC's are cheap because they are crap. If you compared comparable machines, the prices would also be similar. And no, "comparable" does not mean specs alone.

Just because Apple does not really sell low-end machines, does not mean that they are "expensive". It just means that they do not have cheap 'n crappy models available.

Is Toyota expensive because you could get a Lada for a lot less money? No. Lada might cost less, but it's crap. You get what you pay for. "value" is not defined by how much the item costs, it's defined by how much use you can get from the item when compared to the price of the item. Is it good value to buy a computer that is very cheap, but it's so badly made that it's practically useless? No. What IS good value is to invest a bit more, and buy a computer that is well built and that will be useful for years to come. And no, it doesn't have to be a Mac, it could be a PC as well.
 
What do you think the chances are that this home server functionality could be added to existing Time Capules through a software update?

I don't think the hardware in the Time Capsule is up to the job of doing much more than it currently does. Even the current model HP MediaSmart servers have been struggling to cope as more functionality has been added through Add-ins and these have a lot more power than the Time Capsule.

In fact, HP had to change their warranty to allow owners to upgrade the memory from the base 512MB. The new models announced this week have improved processors and 2GB of RAM.
 
With what? That's a naive response. Imagine the home user purchases this device only with no other computers in the home.

Haha. You're response is naive and ignorant, not his!

Maybe you over looked the "server" bit and just saw Home Media. Whole point in these things is to share huge amounts of data across home network (and possibly WAN) - which will be ideal for the Apple TV if it integrates an iTunes server.

Really, if you have no idea what this is, then you shouldn't be a smart arse.
 
Dump HandBrake, buy (yes, it's worth the cash for something that just works) Roxio Popcorn.

I did extensive research online in forums etc to be able to find the setting I use in HandBrake that is compatible with Apple TV, iPhone, & iPods, and looks good even on the Apple TV yet maintains a pretty decent file size while also including standard and 5.1 audio.

Does Popcorn have something comparable or would I have to tweak and do more research???

Thanks!
 
Supporting 6 drives would be a little much for a home user. 4 would probably be more likely. Also i can pretty much guarantee that the whs you're using is a serious power hog. Housing and running 12 drives would require some serious cooling and power. 6 would be quite bad as well really. I agree with supporting various sizes and parities though.

I use a WHS machine I built myself and can house 12 drives and it works great.
So if i'm to get one from apple it needs to support at least 6 drives and allow for drives of any size and support parity as opposed to mirroring for redundancy. Then I would consider it.
 
Supporting 6 drives would be a little much for a home user. 4 would probably be more likely. Also i can pretty much guarantee that the whs you're using is a serious power hog. Housing and running 12 drives would require some serious cooling and power. 6 would be quite bad as well really. I agree with supporting various sizes and parities though.

I don't. I think 4 is small. But that is me. I am looking at something that houses 15 drives of all sizes (http://lime-technology.com/). However I am thinking of holding off until after MWSF to see if something does come up.

Originally Posted by Trip.Tucker
Dump HandBrake, buy (yes, it's worth the cash for something that just works) Roxio Popcorn.

I have yet to have a single problem with handbrake. It even plays well with MetaX. No complaints what so ever.
 
Supporting 6 drives would be a little much for a home user. 4 would probably be more likely. Also i can pretty much guarantee that the whs you're using is a serious power hog. Housing and running 12 drives would require some serious cooling and power. 6 would be quite bad as well really. I agree with supporting various sizes and parities though.

It doesn't really take as much cooling and power as you would think.

I have a Home Server with 8 Hard Disks, the case is cooled by only 2x120MM fans and each drive according to its own SMART monitoring system is around 24c to 41c (As not all drives are directly infront or behind 120MM fans so the temps vary) The drives I use are certified for operating up to 60c (Samsung 1TB's) Those temps were taken under extremely high load on all drives so I would never expect them to get any higher.

Power wise each drive will consume 6 watts Idle and 12.5 Watts at maximum I/O load. Equating to just 100Watts under full Load. With the CPU (45Watt Model that spends most of its time around the 20Watt range) Raid Card (10 Watts) and Motherboard (35Watts) with 2 Dimm Slots and no Graphics Card the entire system comes at just 165Watts @ Highest Disk Load. With a Maximum power draw of 200 to 210 Watts if the entire system (CPU and all) were under maximum stresses. A Home Storage server spends most of its time Idle though or with only mild disk access, Which would average out the power consumption to around 113Watts. I have in my Server an ultra-quiet 520Watt Tagan PSU and overall the Server is very quiet and low power but I get some excellent performance 60-70MB/ps Read and Write over the network with over 200MB/ps read/write on the local system with benchmarks like HD-Tune.

Now obviously I don't think the average home needs a 6 or 8 drive NAS. Two and Four drive Network Attached Storage devices is all that the majority of Consumers need but there are Prosumers out there who do need lots of storage, be that to backup large quantities of Digital or Physical media to saving personal projects, photos or video. Hell if you have a Windows Media Centre and you regularly record High Def through it your eat through gigabytes of storage per day.

I'm quite happy with my NAS as its expandable to 16 drives and thats what I wanted when I built it, expandability and high performance. But I think Apple could definitely shake up the market with a 6 to 8 drive unit because there really is a market for it. If you look at the NAS's available right now in the 4 drive region they mostly run on ARM processors (like the iPhone) and use Software RAID for data integrity. These processors are really slow for doing RAID5 calculations and the performance is not very good. Alternatively you have products like the Drobo which has a more beefy Intel x86 processor but its crippled by a 100Mb ethernet connection (Which is only capable of 12.5MB/ps transfer speeds)

I do think Apple could shake the market up but I don't think they will. Their recent products have been quite ... unremarkable. They seem to be aiming for Size and Weight more then Performance. I remember a time when Apple loved to spout how the PowerBook G4 was the fastest Notebook in the world and then they brought out the iBook and compared it to $1000 Competitor notebooks that were just not as fast. I think having let go of the performance crown and aiming for a size and weight margin has hurt Apple in the Prosumer and Buisness area where Form isn't a factor in a purchase decision. You don't buy a Porche to plow a field because its sleeker then a Tractor and with Apple only releasing 2 or 3 products in a range it limits the markets that would want to buy those products.

To elaborate what I mean exactly, if you look at their Desktop systems you have 3 systems. The Mac Mini which only supports 1 Laptop sized Hard Disk and cannot be upgraded Graphics or CPU wise. You have the iMac which comes with a screen weather you want it or not and also cannot be upgraded, and you have the Mac Pro which is like a leapfrog from the iMac. Dual Processors very large enclosure and very pricey for the ability to upgrade its components. What is missing is a Middle class Buisness/Prosumer tower one with a Single Quad Core processor in a form factor like Prystar are currently offering. Something cheap but fast with full upgradability. And I see this happening to the Notebooks as-well (Removing choice of Matted Displays, DVI, Charging $99 for a connector adapter that no one wanted to buy).

For all these reasons and more I see an Apple NAS as a nice addition to a family that already had / wanted a Time Capsule but nothing that will make us geeks hearts flutter and that is a real shame from the little Apple company I love.
 
What is missing is a Middle class Buisness/Prosumer tower one with a Single Quad Core processor in a form factor like Prystar are currently offering. Something cheap but fast with full upgradability.

please god
 
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