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"Despite Apple's plans to offload some tasks to a new ARM chip, Apple is said to have no intention of abandoning Intel chips in its laptop and desktop computers."

Except for the Xeon
 
The fact you included iMac here makes me confused as to whether it's /s or not. Is anybody really here to complain about how thick iMacs are?

I supoose folks who appreciate the thinness and lightness of the iMac also appreciate thin and light television sets. A 40% reduction in volume might be welcomed on cramped desks maybe?
 
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I don't know how far Apple is really willing to go with this concept, but I think there's FAR more potential here in leveraging the ARM processor as one running in tandem with the latest Intel CPU to improve overall system performance. The earlier talk of Apple possibly using a future ARM CPU in place of Intel is a non-starter, by contrast.

I don't really think it makes any sense to depart from using Intel, which is today's clear industry standard in personal computing. It makes it trivial to support Windows in a dual-boot configuration, among other advantages.

But an ARM CPU that OS X could auto-detect and use when present, along-side the Intel chip? NOW we're talking valid reasons to buy Mac hardware (even at a price premium) over the competition again.


A ARM coprocessor would rule, specially to simulate iOS apps in Xcode.
 
Why it pays to wait.

A lot of 2016 MacBook Pro users - why did I buy this again?

I don't think it's a lot. In Q4 2014 Mac was 16% of Apple's business, now it's 9%. Some people really needed a computer, and I'm sure some do like the EmojiBar, but it seems most people just weren't interested.
 
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One one hand I like the idea of switching to ARM esp if it means lower power, cheaper price, more innovation, and the possibility of running iOS apps on the laptop (I have a bunch of iOS apps that are awesome, and wish I could use on my laptop).

However, I depend a lot on bootcamp to get things done. I suspect this could throw a monkey wrench into the situation.
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I actually want a thinner MBP. Seriously.

Have you tried paper and pen? It's super thin and uses very little battery resources. ;D

The point is that thinness can't be at a cost of functionality. I'd rather have it slightly thicker with more battery life, and more technology (how about a second SSD drive?).
 
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this would be the first step for that and when they do is goodbye apple laptops for me.

That is a harsh thing to say, ARM processors are powerful and power efficient. With the focus on Swift, and more native written applications, ARM may very well be a contender. It is a wait and see game, why let fear overcome you now as we are not even there yet.
 
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Except incorporating an ARM chip potentially allows them to incorporate other iOS functionality in the future. If there ever is an 2-in-one Mac (I don't expect it) this is how they would do it.

They should- the 2-in-1 is a compelling and useful form factor.
 
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MBPro 2016 = Transitional Product
MBPro 20xx = Fusion Product with x86 and ARM
MBPro 20xx = ARM Product

This is just the transition occurring. Introduce the ARM chip for auxiliary functions as the TouchBar then offload more functions and feature until its takes over completely. It will assist developers to transition as well. I would not be surprised if there was an iOS mode available and this will be Apples answer to the SurfaceBook.
An iOS mode. Where it takes all your settings and documents and files and music and just transplants it from the desktop equivalents to the mobile equivalents. Yes!!!!!!!!!!! This is what I need.
 
So that means we get a Mac mini and Mac Pro now? :cool:

I predicted this not so long ago on this very forum. You're welcome. :)
Wow, that's great.

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This is the PowerBook G5 issue all over again, the very first steps towards another processor change. The writing is very much on the wall.

I'm upgrading to the next MacBook Pro, hope that this will be incorporated into the next model.
 
An iOS mode. Where it takes all your settings and documents and files and music and just transplants it from the desktop equivalents to the mobile equivalents. Yes!!!!!!!!!!! This is what I need.

It is Apple what do you expect, it could be worse like the iOS version for the iPad segment. The iPad is a computer, yet we do not invest enough into its iOS version. Maybe WWDC17 will bring in some positive news for the iPad.
 
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What would be wrong with an intermediate switch?
Apple controls its ARM ecosystem, also they have proven with the iPhone 7 that they can deliver computing power.
Also given the fact that the dependency with Intel slows down the MacBook evolution I would say a switch is overdue.
So Adobe, Autodesk etc. software and applications like Pro Tools would work on an ARM based Mac?
 
Why? If MS and Apple go in that direction in the future on the OS level and still run x86 software in an emulator, and be independent of intel chips someday, what does it matter to you? Shareholder?
Where you a mac user w ppc? I moved away from windows when they started doing intel and gave Macs a try. Also Vista didn't help w making a decision about windows at that time.

That is a harsh thing to say, ARM processors are powerful and power efficient. With the focus on Swift, and more native written applications, ARM may very well be a contender. It is a wait and see game, why let fear overcome you now as the we are not even there yet.
Maybe harsh but is what I believe ATM. ARM IMO is not good enough but I'm willing to wait and see if it can prove me wrong.
 
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"Despite Apple's plans to offload some tasks to a new ARM chip, Apple is said to have no intention of abandoning Intel chips in its laptop and desktop computers."
Of course that won't stop people from writing stories saying how this is absolute proof Apple is ditching Intel for ARM based Macs.
 
Fake innovation: Focus on low energy efficiency thus requiring smaller batteries thus reducing weight and thickness for greater mobility.

True innovation: Focus on bigger batteries at the cost of weight and thickness.

My MacBook Pro from 2006: 5.6 pounds, an inch thick, 4 hours battery.
MacBook Pro 2016: 3 pounds, 0.59 inches, about 10 hours battery.

Could you imagine what your machine with the new power efficencies would do? You'd have something like 20 hours of battery. Or meet in the middle @ 15 hours. And you'd not notice the difference in weight or size.

It's similar to what HP did with the new Spectre laptops - gave you a great 4k screen and made the thing slightly larger and heavier. You never notice the weight but do notice the gorgeous screen, which at 286ppi beats the Retina Macbook.
 
Could you imagine what your machine with the new power efficencies would do? You'd have something like 20 hours of battery. Or meet in the middle @ 15 hours. And you'd not notice the difference in weight or size.

It's similar to what HP did with the new Spectre laptops - gave you a great 4k screen and made the thing slightly larger and heavier. You never notice the weight but do notice the gorgeous screen, which at 286ppi beats the Retina Macbook.

I am curious to know the answer to when is light too light for a laptop and when is thin too thin for a laptop. Seems the only innovation that Apple has is thinner and lighter, someone would think that the laptop offering of the last 5 years are placing a strain on my shoulder. It is not like I am walking around with my laptop in my hand and typing at the same time.
 
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