The display is also larger, which adds more weight than most components. At least, you understood generations.
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No, please, no.
Give me power, battery life, durability, and repairability.
I do not need thinner and thinner devices.
I need them to be good and sustainable.
Give me power, battery life, durability, and repairability.
I do not need thinner and thinner devices.
I need them to be good and sustainable.
Yeah, It’s that mini-LED tech too. I suspect there will be significant weight savings “for free” coming along with the transition from mini-LED to OLED (ie. the battery life and power limitation fears being thrown around in here are likely unfounded).
Exactly. Once they get there, they can focus on size reduction without hurting battery life.
What are you actually doing that you need more power and more battery life? Because it must be insane! And probably the MacBook Pro is the wrong device.
New iPad Pro is awesome but I didn’t buy it because it was thin, I bought it because of the M4. I hope we don’t go back to the 2016-2020 era of computers too thin to run without throttling.
that said I could see them moving the MacBook Air up in the lineup and putting in a 13 inch ‘MacBook’ that has whatever the last gen chip was with a moderate amount of RAM and SSD. Still the air branding presents a marketing problem. For a long time air meant the thinnest thing Apple sells. then it meant cheaper than Pro.
I think it might be wise for them to leave the Pros chonky and make a new elite brand or something for a form over function line.
that said I could see them moving the MacBook Air up in the lineup and putting in a 13 inch ‘MacBook’ that has whatever the last gen chip was with a moderate amount of RAM and SSD. Still the air branding presents a marketing problem. For a long time air meant the thinnest thing Apple sells. then it meant cheaper than Pro.
I think it might be wise for them to leave the Pros chonky and make a new elite brand or something for a form over function line.
It's pretty disingenuous if your first valid reference point is a twelve-year old version of the product you're referencing... You have to go all the way back to mid-2012 to find a generation that was heavier than the current model.
Ive is a design genius, but he doesn't always know what is best for Apple. If Apple can figure out how to give us thinness and good battery life then that would be good for Apple. It's 2024, battery technology and low energy chips might make it possible now or soon?
Thin and light for a device you hold in your hand/s is a practical consideration. For a device that rests on a table top it is an aesthetic one. The iPad Pro M4 11” is so light to hold but battery life and heat dissipation are more features for a MBP.
I think we're at the point with tandem OLED and 3nm Apple Silicon where we can 'have our cake and eat it too' on the MacBooks Pros. They can make a ridiculously powerful computer with an amazing display and speakers and incredibly long battery life while not having it weigh nearly 5lbs. I'd bet they can get at least the MX Pro version of the 16" MacBook Pro down to 4lbs and ~25% thinner without sacrificing much at all. If they need to make the MX Max variant a little bit thicker and heavier to support its chip without throttling then so be it, but many people just want the 'Pro' display / speakers / ports / battery life without needing the compute power to run a small village.
Um excuse me. Do you hail from that parallel universe where the USB consortium is acting in the user's interest and you can basically grab any cable from any store and it will work as advertised?
Because in this one I bought 3 cables until I had an usb-c to DP that "just worked" the last time I needed to plug a new monitor in. And I wasn't even doing 4k. This is survivable for a static set up. Not when all you have is your laptop and are in a hurry.
Depends on the usage and model line. You can see the way Apple seems to think with the iPads. 11 stayed basically the same as making it thinner would've hurt battery life, 13 went thinner & lighter (and was mostly praised for it, it depends on your use case). So they seem to think 10 hours / a working day is the battery life to go for. It's a balancing act, as loosing 2h of battery is not worth a few grams but making a wearable device like the Watch or the iPods smaller and lighter is worth not gaining one hour of battery life.
Shouldn't that be the Air though?
Make an iPad Air / a MacBook Air (and maybe even an iPhone Air if they really think anyone cares) that's super thin, but leave the Pro's alone ffs. A Pro device should have ALL the features and great battery life.
It seems like they get this confused every couple of years. See the only USB-C MacBook Pros vs. the current design. Everyone was so happy when they brought back the ports and no one complained about it beeing heavier and bigger. Yes, the design before the redsign looked better, but it's just not worth the trade off. Like I said, just get an Air if you care about thinness.
Make an iPad Air / a MacBook Air (and maybe even an iPhone Air if they really think anyone cares) that's super thin, but leave the Pro's alone ffs. A Pro device should have ALL the features and great battery life.
It seems like they get this confused every couple of years. See the only USB-C MacBook Pros vs. the current design. Everyone was so happy when they brought back the ports and no one complained about it beeing heavier and bigger. Yes, the design before the redsign looked better, but it's just not worth the trade off. Like I said, just get an Air if you care about thinness.
I am tired of the EU demanding these stupid “green changes”!
You wrote incorrect information and instead of owning your mistake, you double down.
2021 16" - 2.1-2.2kg (pro/max)
2019 16" - 2.0 kg
2019 15" - 1.83 kg
2018 15" - 1.83 kg
2017 15" - 1.83 kg
2016 15" - 1.83 kg
2015 15" - 2.04 kg
2014 15" - 2.02 kg
2013 15" - 2.02 kg
2012 15" - 2.56 kg - here you have a lighter machine.
So the current big-size Macbook Pro is heavier than 9 generations of large MBPs but lighter than a machine from 12 years ago, wow, what an achievement!
Also, that's a nice list for all opponents of weight loss for the current generation. I don't think anyone is expecting a weight of around 1.5 kg, but 1.8-1.9 kg would be perfect.
Apart from being one of the many iPhone users posting here who, rather than having a thinner iPhone would prefer to at least maintain and very preferably increase battery life, isn't the other big problem the laws of physics i.e. the optics for the camera lenses? If those lenses can't be made less thick (make them all periscope lenses?) then a thinner iPhone would simply be a thinner main body with an even more prominent and awkward camera bump sticking out of the back. I think that would end up being less attractive and ergonomic than what we have now and frankly what we have now isn't great because the camera bump on my 15 Pro Max is seriously annoying and ugly.
More battery! It was great move in 2021 (and one that tilted mi towards Mac)... don't go back to "slim at every cost" just to be sleak and whatnot... it's called macbook PRO for a reason...
Thin is fine for the Air. Not for the Pro.
More cores are being added every year and users are pushing those cores harder than ever with machine learning and generative applications. Pro machines need to be able to remove heat efficiently and the current design is just the right thickness.
More cores are being added every year and users are pushing those cores harder than ever with machine learning and generative applications. Pro machines need to be able to remove heat efficiently and the current design is just the right thickness.