Apple Donating to Trump's $350M White House Ballroom Project

[Madhatter32]

Are we supposed to not remember that a right wing extremist shot 13 rounds into that police station as it burned?

Oh, don't you worry -- there are many images of Leftist political violence to choose from. It's kind of silly to argue that violence by Leftists is not happening -- especially in light of the recent political assassinations of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson. And pointing the finger to some right wing, neo-Nazi, extremist and saying they do it too does not refute the point.

 

[jon9091]

Oh, don't you worry -- there are many images of Leftist political violence to choose from. It's kind of silly to argue that violence by Leftists is not happening -- especially in light of the recent political assassinations of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson. And pointing the finger to some right wing, neo-Nazi, extremist and saying they do it too does not refute the point.


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Weird how you don’t seem at all concerned about Minnesota Democrat State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband…and their dog, who were all assassinated by a far right killer, who was impersonating a police officer, and had a list of Democrats he was going to murder.

Minnesota Assassination Suspect Indicted on First-Degree Murder Charges​

State prosecutors had previously charged the man with second-degree murder in the deaths of State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.

Minnesota Assassination Suspect Indicted on First-Degree Murder Charges

State prosecutors had previously charged the man with second-degree murder in the deaths of State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Madhatter32]

Weird how you don’t seem at all concerned about Minnesota Democrat State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband…and their dog, who were all assassinated by a far right killer, who was impersonating a police officer, and had a list of Democrats he was going to murder.

Minnesota Assassination Suspect Indicted on First-Degree Murder Charges​

State prosecutors had previously charged the man with second-degree murder in the deaths of State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.

Minnesota Assassination Suspect Indicted on First-Degree Murder Charges

State prosecutors had previously charged the man with second-degree murder in the deaths of State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband.

www.nytimes.com

This, of course, is pure projection. My suggestion, not that you asked, is to try not to mindread and divine other people's thoughts, concerns and intentions and worry about your own biases.

 

[jon9091]

This, of course, is pure projection. My suggestion, not that you asked, is to try not to mindread and divine other people's thoughts, concerns and intentions and worry about your own biases.

tHe lEfT iS sO VIoLenT! 🥴

“You’re Dead, Liberal”: Federal Agent Threatens to Shoot Veteran​

A federal agent blatantly violated a court order against using excessive force against journalists and protesters last Thursday by pointing a gun in a veteran’s face, saying “Bang, bang” and “You’re dead, liberal.”

“You’re Dead, Liberal”: Federal Agent Threatens to Shoot Veteran

Federal agents in Chicago, alongside Trump’s Border Patrol chief Greg Bovino, feel empowered to do whatever they want.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BaldiMac]

Oh, don't you worry -- there are many images of Leftist political violence to choose from. It's kind of silly to argue that violence by Leftists is not happening -- especially in light of the recent political assassinations of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson. And pointing the finger to some right wing, neo-Nazi, extremist and saying they do it too does not refute the point.


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Where did I say or imply that there was no left wing violence? That’s just a strawman you decided to bring up. Three left wing rioters started the fire. But there were also right wing extremists stoking violence and shooting 13 rounds at the same time and place that you chose to highlight.

 

[Madhatter32]

Where did I say or imply that there was no left wing violence? That’s just a strawman you decided to bring up. Three left wing rioters started the fire. But there were also right wing extremists stoking violence and shooting 13 rounds at the same time and place that you chose to highlight.

Well, then we agree that the image did reflect, at least in part (I suppose), left wing violence.

Also, the point of my post was to provide an example of left wing violence. Upon your objection, I provided other examples -- like the assassination of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson. So I suppose it's your turn to show how that those events were instigated or prefaced by a right wing extremist.

If you want to talk logical fallacies -- you need to look at how others responded to my claim to see them. In particular, many posters seemingly only responded to my posts with what is called the "Red Herring" logical fallacy -- similar to "whataboutism." Happens all the time here. My claim had to do with growing left wing violence. So all these responses about right wing violence, regardless of whether they have merit, are not responsive to any claim I actually made.

 

[bradl]

Well, then we agree that the image did reflect, at least in part (I suppose), left wing violence.

Also, the point of my post was to provide an example of left wing violence. Upon your objection, I provided other examples -- like the assassination of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson. So I suppose it's your turn to show how that those events were instigated or prefaced by a right wing extremist.

If you want to talk logical fallacies -- you need to look at how others responded to my claim to see them. In particular, many posters seemingly only responded to my posts with what is called the "Red Herring" logical fallacy -- similar to "whataboutism." Happens all the time here. My claim had to do with growing left wing violence. So all these responses about right wing violence, regardless of whether they have merit, are not responsive to any claim I actually made.

Not for nothing, but your examples are base on the assumption that it was the left that carried out those assassinations. Most people on the right also assumed that, to the point of all but declaring that this is (civil) war. Those people have now gone silent, after it was discovered that those that carried out those events were not on the left. There is nothing that needs to be said that they were instigated by a right wing extremist; it was already proven to be, just like the attempted shooting of Trump.

It's also funny about how you harp on others about logical fallacies, red herrings, and whataboutisms, while providing that very same fallacy for your own example. Insert hypocrisy/project claims here.

BL.

 

[Madhatter32]

Not for nothing, but your examples are base on the assumption that it was the left that carried out those assassinations. Most people on the right also assumed that, to the point of all but declaring that this is (civil) war. Those people have now gone silent, after it was discovered that those that carried out those events were not on the left. There is nothing that needs to be said that they were instigated by a right wing extremist; it was already proven to be, just like the attempted shooting of Trump.

It's also funny about how you harp on others about logical fallacies, red herrings, and whataboutisms, while providing that very same fallacy for your own example. Insert hypocrisy/project claims here.

BL.

You declare a lot not actually in evidence and cite to exactly nothing. Not for nothing as you say. And I appreciate your retreat to the tu quoque fallacy to give the appearance of a valid point. Well done -- I haven't seen that one in these parts in a hot minute.

 

[whatnot]

The Commission of Fine Arts was established in 1910, and is tasked with “giving expert advice to the President, the Congress and the federal and District of Columbia governments on matters of design and aesthetics”, according to its website.​

well, the commission has now been sacked, because there's a new tastemaker in town.

if Apple wants some serious brand exposure for its $$$, now is the time to push for windows in this bling barn to be made of Liquid Glass.

 

[OverTheHill]

I do. I've been a bowler since I was 3, and if you knew your history, you would have known the significant importance of bowling, especially in the 1960s to today. It was and still is bigger than most sports on the planet, especially in regards to being a participation sport instead of a spectator sport. But alas, most people in the US are more accustomed to playing sports on the couch or gaming chair with chicken wings, pizza, chili, hot dogs, and pork rinds stuck in their mouths while having their nose canula in for the extra oxygen while a cigarette is on the table next to them either playing or watching gridiron football, screaming at the screen about how they could stiff arm the oncoming tackler and run the field faster than Usain Bolt.

BL.

You just proved my point.

 

[bradl]

You just proved my point.

Actually, you proved your own point. You accused the left of doing something that wasn't proven to be true, and using that as your so-called red herring and whataboutism. I believe that is called... wait, let me remember the term...

Self Own.

You declare a lot not actually in evidence and cite to exactly nothing. Not for nothing as you say. And I appreciate your retreat to the tu quoque fallacy to give the appearance of a valid point. Well done -- I haven't seen that one in these parts in a hot minute.

You do realize that you have done the same with regards to your claim with who did what during what incident. Pot. Kettle. Black.

BL.

 

[OverTheHill]

Actually, you proved your own point. You accused the left of doing something that wasn't proven to be true, and using that as your so-called red herring and whataboutism. I believe that is called... wait, let me remember the term...

Self Own.




You do realize that you have done the same with regards to your claim with who did what during what incident. Pot. Kettle. Black.

BL.

No, you proved my point. That being, people have different views on things. Some will find value in it and others won’t. To each their own.

Happy Bowling!

 

[xbjllb]

He didn’t put millions in gas chambers. People that I knew, so I find the Nazi references very distasteful and unkind.

Uh. He's just getting started. Meanwhile dumping brown ppl in the sea shackled is much cheaper than gas chambers.

I refuse to believe that 90% of the Trümpers in here are Apple users at all.

 

[Tar Sniffer]

Uh. He's just getting started. Meanwhile dumping brown ppl in the sea shackled is much cheaper than gas chambers.

I refuse to believe that 90% of the Trümpers in here are Apple users at all.

That’s what they said during his last term.

So if it doesn’t happen by 2028 (and it won’t) will you admit that you’re wrong about him being a genocidal, fascist, Hitlerian figure and that your mind has been warped by the media?

 

[Madhatter32]

You do realize that you have done the same with regards to your claim with who did what during what incident. Pot. Kettle. Black.

BL.

Very strange remarks. Yes, all the evidence is not all in -- but some of it is -- enough to form a basis. I do not know about you, but to me "Hey, fascist! Catch!" etched into a bullet qualifies as evidence and means something. Plus, the remarks of Governor Cox give credence to the position that it was a politically inspired assassination and not by the so-called right wing. Not pot. Not kettle. Not black.

 

[OverTheHill]

Meanwhile dumping brown ppl in the sea shackled...

Source?

Apple user, by the way. Step out of the bubble. We choose Apple for quality, not politics. Want politics, go with a Windows ecosystem. Oh wait, Bill Gates just trashed environmental extremism.

 

[jon9091]

Source?

Apple user, by the way. Step out of the bubble. We choose Apple for quality, not politics. Want politics, go with a Windows ecosystem. Oh wait, Bill Gates just trashed environmental extremism.

Yeah…that is NOT what the report said.

“If you think climate is not important, you won’t agree with the memo. If you think climate is the only cause and apocalyptic, you won’t agree with the memo,” Gates told reporters. “It’s kind of this pragmatic view of somebody who’s, you know, trying to maximize the money and the innovation that goes to help in these poor countries.”

Bill Gates thinks climate change is a serious problem but it won’t be the end of civilization. He thinks scientific innovation will curb it, and it’s instead time for a “strategic pivot” in the global climate fight: from focusing on limiting rising temperatures to fighting poverty and preventing disease.

 

[ratspg]

So many experts here. You guys are really good at reading news articles. lol.

 

[jon9091]

So many experts here. You guys are really good at reading news articles. lol.

Reading is woke! 🥴

 

[xbjllb]

That’s what they said during his last term.

So if it doesn’t happen by 2028 (and it won’t) will you admit that you’re wrong about him being a genocidal, fascist, Hitlerian figure and that your mind has been warped by the media?

No one said that about him the last term because he had enough minders to insure it didn't happen.

This time? Not so much.

 

[Tar Sniffer]

No one said that about him the last term because he had enough minders to insure it didn't happen.

This time? Not so much.

Really? Because I can recall it being said consistently from the moment he was elected. Either you have a selective memory or you will literally say anything due to your shear hate for him.

Donald Trump Shrugs Off Hitler Comparison

abcnews.go.com

You don’t know anything about my political beliefs or the media I consume, so it’s pathetic that would make those assumptions. I don’t even know what OAN is. I try to evaluate things objectively, read full transcripts, compare sources, and form my own conclusions rather than relying on sound bites or the bias of political commentators. I’m sorry that independent thinking triggers you.

For the record, I never said I support Trump. I simply have enough common sense to recognise that calling him a genocidal maniac is an extreme and baseless claim, and I’m not afraid to point out BS when I see it.

So I’ll you ask again and don’t deflect this time. if your predictions of mass genocide and authoritarian rule don’t happen by 2028, will you acknowledge that you were misled and that you have a hateful and distorted view?

 

[OverTheHill]

Yeah…that is NOT what the report said.

“If you think climate is not important, you won’t agree with the memo. If you think climate is the only cause and apocalyptic, you won’t agree with the memo,” Gates told reporters. “It’s kind of this pragmatic view of somebody who’s, you know, trying to maximize the money and the innovation that goes to help in these poor countries.”

Bill Gates thinks climate change is a serious problem but it won’t be the end of civilization. He thinks scientific innovation will curb it, and it’s instead time for a “strategic pivot” in the global climate fight: from focusing on limiting rising temperatures to fighting poverty and preventing disease.

Except thats not what climate alarmists say.

 

[ratspg]

Reading is woke! 🥴

I’m signing off these forums. I have more important things to do than go back and forth with all of you. Good luck and enjoy.

 

[xbjllb]

Really? Because I can recall it being said consistently from the moment he was elected. Either you have a selective memory or you will literally say anything due to your shear hate for him.

Donald Trump Shrugs Off Hitler Comparison

abcnews.go.com

You don’t know anything about my political beliefs or the media I consume, so it’s pathetic that would make those assumptions. I don’t even know what OAN is. I try to evaluate things objectively, read full transcripts, compare sources, and form my own conclusions rather than relying on sound bites or the bias of political commentators. I’m sorry that independent thinking triggers you.

For the record, I never said I support Trump. I simply have enough common sense to recognise that calling him a genocidal maniac is an extreme and baseless claim, and I’m not afraid to point out BS when I see it.

So I’ll you ask again and don’t deflect this time. if your predictions of mass genocide and authoritarian rule don’t happen by 2028, will you acknowledge that you were misled and that you have a hateful and distorted view?

1. I didn't deflect. You are posing a hypothetical that will never happen.

2. 2/3's of Alligator Alcatraz's 1800 detainees have been purged off ICE's database and are missing persons. YOU do the math as to where they are. This is from MULTIPLE reliable sources.

3. If we don't lose a nuclear war with Russia the second the Epstein files and rape videos are released, it will be a miracle. Let alone getting to 2028 or the end of 2026 for that matter.

 

[OverTheHill]

1. I didn't deflect. You are posing a hypothetical that will never happen.

2. 2/3's of Alligator Alcatraz's 1800 detainees have been purged off ICE's database and are missing persons. YOU do the math as to where they are. This is from MULTIPLE reliable sources.

3. If we don't lose a nuclear war with Russia the second the Epstein files and rape videos are released, it will be a miracle. Let alone getting to 2028 or the end of 2026 for that matter.

1. You’re projecting.
2. False. One story in the Miami Herald, that actually explains why they aren’t on the list. The rest are nonsense.
3. Hyperbole much?