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Apple Doubles the Price of RAM Upgrade on Entry-Level 13-Inch MacBook Pro
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Comparing the MBP to a desktop is like comparing apples with pears. Try taking your desktop with you to the park...
I'm obviously a lot older than you, when I was twelve, ( I think or round about), I got my first Apple computer, it had 28kb ( or maybe 56kb ??), of memory and pretty sure it was ridiculously expensive back then.
For historic prices with some inflation correction too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_II#History
That said. It used to be that I could buy the lowest end MacBook, buy RAM and HDD/SSD (for what I need now that would cost 350 euro) and be happy.
I would be fairly happy with a MacBook similar to the HP ProBook 450 G7 (~1000 euro); or any other business line laptop with proper cooling. Which would count as high-end on the Windows side (since an average laptop costs ~$700). Let me add my 350 euro in parts. You would end up at a 1000 euro less than what a comparable MacBook costs.
That feels insulting. I won't use this system to make money, so it's not an 'investment' or anything. I don't need a 5K computer like your Apple II.
I'll probably pay it, sooner or later, with a sour grin. Since the macOS ecosystem at ~$1000 means a 5 year old MacBook. So, what are you going to do if you want a nice UI and a nice Unix system?
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Oh yeah? I've been using Windows since version 2.0 in the 80s. I suspect you weren't even born then. And yeah: it's total and utter crap.
What a ridiculously naive statement. Not sure what laptops have to do with covid?
Whole countries are working from home. How do you think they do that?
Unbelievable!
Company I contract too purchased 100's in March /April. It was a struggle as some large outsourcers had purchased every single HP and Dell in the country. Do you get it now?
Well we have been using Windows for a very long time then; I suspect I am older than you. So if it is "utter crap", why would you be still using it after the best part of 35 years or is because you "are forced" to use it because the perfect [limited?] MacOS is not able to run all of your programs?
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I think he is saying that he cost of the memory doubling in price is crap.
There's also plenty of other operating systems out there by the way so no reason to mention 2 - windows and Mac. long before windows was Unix and all the others too. Obviously Linux in the 90's but nothing like the landscape Linux dominates now. I remember supporting solaris and before that sgi and iris I think it was.
Good times. Pleased I'm out of that game now. Hated being oncall!
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I have to say Apple is sticking it to their customer base, they seem to value profit margins then anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not only that, but those same fans will defend apple with their dying breath.
Not only that, but those same fans will defend apple with their dying breath.
It's almost almost like people have tried the alternative and don't think it's worth the investment.
All business value margin. If they don't they won't be in business for long
source: I am oneOr perhaps benchmarks and theoretical performance don't make such a huge difference to people's productivity. I mean I have never exported a huge amount of data and gone "I wish it was 2 seconds faster so I can move onto the next billable job".
I do run out of memory but that's for large data sets and the cloud has some quite good options there now.
In saying that, the doubling the cost of memory is absolutely price- gouging. There's no real reason for it except their own internal price structures and perhaps their production is under subscribed for the models they predicted would be popular (like the 10th gen mbp). There's no reason to do the same to the MBA on that basis then. To me it's tone deaf to the current environment and how everyone is having to do more with less, and largely from home. Poor timing and worse decision.
It's bordering on criminal. I wonder if there's a way to communicate dissatisfaction other than by not purchasing? Apple don't have an active twitter do they?
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The membership here seems to hung up on that, just look at the MBP forum, and most upgrade to the max ram, just to "future proof" their machines, even if they don't need 64GB ram. Every time Apple raised the ceiling of maximum ram, people tend to bend over backwards to max out their machines, even if their needs are such that 8 or 16 is sufficient.
Basically, Apple knows that its customers will still buy their machines, and will still upgrade the ram regardless of how much they raise their prices.
Apple today doubled the price for upgrading the RAM on the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro, with customers in the United States now being charged $200 to move from 8GB to 16GB compared to the previous $100 upgrade price. Similar increases are seen in other countries, such as moving from EUR125 to EUR250 in Germany and from £100 to £200 in the United Kingdom.
Current pricing on RAM upgrade for entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro
While Apple does sometimes adjust upgrade pricing as its costs for components change over time, what makes today's change unusual beyond the fact that it is an increase rather than a typical decrease is that the 13-inch MacBook Pro just launched less than a month ago.
The entry-level model is largely similar to its predecessor, using the same 8th-generation Intel processors and many other internal components have similarly been carried over. Still, it is considered an updated model with changes like the new Magic Keyboard and it's extremely rare for Apple to adjust pricing so soon after launch, suggesting an unexpected increase in Apple's costs being passed along to consumers.
It's just GREED!!!
MS' hostile update controls and lack of transparency make Windows a hard pill to swallow for me. You might have a peek at something like Pop_OS. One of the smoothest distros I have used and runs on almost anything nicely.
All those years, and you still don't know how to use Windows correctly? Like you, I've been using Macs and Windows computers since the 80's and it's been the focus of my business in IT for 20 years. Windows 10 is one of the best Windows. If you're comparing it to macOS and calling it "utter crap" (especially in light of the disaster called Catalina) then you're not using it right.
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Blind trust?
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I love how so many users on these forums justify their vitriol towards Apple by spouting “future proof”, when those self same don’t even take advantage of the power in the machine they bought six or eight years ago. “Future proof” is an oxymoron and so is the fallacy of chasing specs for the sake of chasing specs. The Mac is a tool for work, or for fun, but in the end it is simply a tool.
Countless comments on how their 2013-2015 MacBook Pro is plenty fast for their needs, wants and desires, but yet Apple is the devil for charging for this and that or soldering LPDDR3 (which no one sells as an SO-DIMM anyways) is “almost criminal”, yet the real issue is people who simply chase specs to say they have this or that or must have the latest and greatest, never mind that their computer is not even a year old and is a glorified paperweight in most cases. Or their entitlement issues overwhelm rational thought.
But so many believe Apple executives sit around all day thinking of ways to screw them out of their money, when no one is forcing anyone to buy anything.
People should stop assigning their own emotional worth as a person to what computer they own and seek some therapy instead of simply abusing Apple.
People should stop assigning their own emotional worth as a person to what computer they own and seek some therapy instead of simply defending Apple.
Oh, you really cut me to the quick with that one, how ever will I ever survive?!?😂🤣😂
Like the capacitors and resistors and all the myriad pieces and parts soldered to the motherboard?
If soldered parts were less reliable, every motherboard made would use all socketed parts. They don’t, in fact they generally have as FEW socketed parts as possible because each socket introduces one more failure point that doesn’t exist with soldered parts. It’s not the part that’s more or less reliable, it’s the connection. And, metal fused to metal will always be more reliable that metal pushed up REAAAAALY close to another metal.
I’d say not purchasing is the most effective way. BUT, when you vote with your dollars while everyone else votes with theirs (and purchasing the thing) you may find yourself just not purchasing anymore... which is totally fine! Apple’s never made computers for everyone, just for a profitable subset of folks.
I’d guess that most HERE upgrade to the max ram. Your average person walking into the store just gets what’s on the base model because they can walk out of the store with it then and there.
LPDDR3 and DDR3 are very different.
That's like saying DDR4 is obsolete because there's GDDR6. The numbers do not mean anything across memory types.
And you think Apple designed the memory controller built into Intel CPUs? LPDDR3 is used on all Intel ULP platforms until Ice Lake.
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Thanks for precisely proving my point. What was the base memory for the 2002 Powerbook? 256MB. From 2002 to 2011, it increased 16x. From 2011 to 2020, it has increased 2x. A 16GB minimum for a "Pro" machine in 2020 seems completely reasonable, and an 8GB minimum for a "Pro" machine in 2020 seems completely unreasonable.
i feel like apple prices things aesthetically. like they thought they should charge 129 or even 150, but it doesn't look as nice as a number rounded to a 100th. so we got 200