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Can I download it to one of my non-upgradable Apple Watches?
My thoughts exactly. Ultra 1 getting no more software updates. I took a look at my old Citizen chronograph the other day. Still synchs with WWVB for atomic clock accuracy. Charges via solar panels in the face. Fifteen years old and still tells time great. I think I'm done buying Apple watches.
Just get a Samsung a16. I got mine at target for like $50. You could probably pick up one for less on eBay. The a16 comes with years of updates, unlike other manufacturers.

Again, longer customer support than for Apple's flagship wearable.
 
My time capsule has been replaced, but I'm also still running an Airport Express to Airplay music to one of my HiFi amps. 😢
 
The biggest problem with them was the speed. If anyone ever tried restoring from one with ethernet, you were waiting a long time. So much is cloud stored these days that I could restore any of my Macs using my Apple ID and a few cloud services. The benefits of only taking photos with an iPhone ever.
AFP itself has no effect on Time Machine speed. The slower speed on AirPort Externe is mostly caused by the already slow USB2 connection, the internal controller and the fact that in those days we still used harddisks. When using SSD today, it is faster, but still limited by the internal controller.

When I transfer a large file over AFP from/to my NAS, it does max out the gigabit ethernet connection. The NAS has SSD cache and the target Mac also has SSD. Time Machine restoring a 300GB backup takes around 45-55 minutes.
 
Do you know of any good guides to set up an old PC (or Mac) as a router?
Depending on your knowledge of networking you can take a look at pfSense. You need two ethernet ports to run it comfortably. With one ethernet port only you need a switch that supports VLAN.
I’m using this a couple of years now on a used Mac mini 2014 inside a ProxMox virtual machine. It connects via 3 ethernet ports: the standard port and two thunderbolt ethernet adapters. For this mac mini I did some tweaking though, due soke quirks with the ports and VDSL. It does run smoothly and fast. There are also small size PC boxes with multiple ethernet ports available on amazon, some with pfSense pre-installed.
 
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Depending on your knowledge of networking you can take a look at pfSense. You need two ethernet ports to run it comfortably. With one ethernet port only you need a switch that supports VLAN.
I’m using this a couple of years now on a used Mac mini 2014 inside a ProxMox virtual machine. It connects via 3 ethernet ports: the standard port and two thunderbolt ethernet adapters. For this mac mini I did some tweaking though, due soke quirks with the ports and VDSL. It does run smoothly and fast. There are also small size PC boxes with multiple ethernet ports available on amazon, some with pfSense pre-installed.
I'll look into the preinstalled boxes then. Sounds like this stuff is over my head!
 
I'll look into the preinstalled boxes then. Sounds like this stuff is over my head!
You can use the ones from Netgate as well, but it’s worth looking around at various others for good deals.

And also look at Ubiquiti UniFi Cloud gateway boxes, those might fit better if you want easy setup. Maybe cheaper. O, “cloud” doesn’t mean you need the cloud for configuration; it’s optional.
Fun fact: UniFi is founded by a former Apple AirPort engineer.

I’ve installed a Gateway Ultra at a air-b&b . The owners had serious wifi issues with ISP provided router and useless repeaters. Continuous disconnects and low speed. Removed all that crap and installed UniFi. One AP for their own house and smaller AP’s in the guest houses. All wired and securely separated, to keep out nosy whizkid guests 😉
 
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The last firmware update was 7 years ago and you thin you will be fine for the next several years?
Oh wow. I thought I bought one of the nodes from Apple a couple of years ago.

Do routers need updated security updates? I feel like all the routers I've had over the years rarely get any updates. I don't think I'd mind changing brands but these have been pretty solid and I've seen some nodes on eBay at a really good price.
 
Two Airport Extremes here. Rock solid. The second AE extends the network to another part of the house.

Is Unifi the only viable alternative?

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Two Airport Extremes here. Rock solid. The second AE extends the network to another part of the house.

Is Unifi the only viable alternative?

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I have a netgear WAX620 AP and a firewalla purple. I'm happy, though I will be migrating the AP to openWRT soon.
 
Two Airport Extremes here. Rock solid. The second AE extends the network to another part of the house.

Is Unifi the only viable alternative?

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They offer a good price/value/support for the money.

I have a netgear WAX620 AP and a firewalla purple. I'm happy, though I will be migrating the AP to openWRT soon.
I bought their Nighthawk router years ago for a friend’s network. It didn’t perform as advertised and firmware updates were sparse. Basically stopped as soon as a newer model came on the market. Upgrading to openwrt is the only good upgrade you can do.
 
All my WiFi is based on an Airport Extreme I've had since at least 2013. I've never had any need for any of the newer versions of 802.11, nor do I particularly need a grotesquely ugly, cheap plastic enclosure with a veritable forest of (plastic-clad) antennas: no pr0n streamers, no first-person video games, no influencers uploading Tbytes of "creations" per day. My desktop uses Ethernet (10 Gbps), and the devices here that use WiFi tend not to use much bandwith.

And yet I've realized for eight years that this day was bound to come. Why should Apple spend money maintaining a software product for which they haven't produced a corresponding hardware product for eight years?

So I'm (ugh) sort of resigned to going through with one, last perusing of the Intertubes for best price/performance for a single (no mesh), WiFi "router" that (1) will probably require a smartphone to configure, even if only long enough to enable a web interface, (2) doesn't violate the federal government's ban on all new foreign-made routers (at least not without a certificate from some agency or other), (3) will not require some version of Windows to configure or update firmware (probably meaning back to the phone again), and (4) isn't a grey box (or one well-known name — I'm looking at you, TP-Link — box) with absolutely no built-in security, and a default admin username and password enabled before shipping. And I wonder if any of the current batch of routers offer ACLs — on which, no matter what all the security experts say, is an effective security barrier if the likely service stealers are technically incompetent, or at least don't want to be bothered looking at packets if they can just steal signal from someone else down the block.

Notice how much easier it was to purchase and install an Airport (if you had a Mac around)? You think that wasn't worth paying a small premium for? I sure do.
 
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All my WiFi is based on an Airport Extreme I've had since at least 2013. I've never had any need for any of the newer versions of 802.11, nor do I particularly need a grotesquely ugly, cheap plastic enclosure with a veritable forest of (plastic-clad) antennas: no pr0n streamers, no first-person video games, no influencers uploading Tbytes of "creations" per day. My desktop uses Ethernet (10 Gbps), and the devices here that use WiFi tend not to use much bandwith.

And yet I've realized for eight years that this day was bound to come. Why should Apple spend money maintaining a software product for which they haven't produced a corresponding hardware product for eight years?

So I'm (ugh) sort of resigned to going through with one, last perusing of the Intertubes for best price/performance for a single (no mesh), WiFi "router" that (1) will probably require a smartphone to configure, even if only long enough to enable a web interface, (2) doesn't violate the federal government's ban on all new foreign-made routers (at least not without a certificate from some agency or other), (3) will not require some version of Windows to configure or update firmware (probably meaning back to the phone again), and (4) isn't a grey box (or one well-known name — I'm looking at you, TP-Link — box) with absolutely no built-in security, and a default admin username and password enabled before shipping. And I wonder if any of the current batch of routers offer ACLs — on which, no matter what all the security experts say, is an effective security barrier if the likely service stealers are technically incompetent, or at least don't want to be bothered looking at packets if they can just steal signal from someone else down the block.

Notice how much easier it was to purchase and install an Airport (if you had a Mac around)? You think that wasn't worth paying a small premium for? I sure do.

Yeah... you probably own the 802.11ac model, and that one sure is able to support more than enough speedy bandwidth for a couple of today's Mac's. Allthough I must say that these days, 802.11ax and higher does offer a more decent bandwidth like +300Mbps at higher distances even with lots of RF interference from direct neighbours. Quite useful with current iPhones that do tend to move more around the house.

If you ever do want to upgrade, then Ubiquity UniFi from a former Apple engineer is the one that ticks all your requirements, including ACL's. Some advise buying AVM and indeed it is easy plug & play. But it lacks ACL's and more granular firewall configuration. And you're right... never ever buy that cheap Asian OEM crap used by Netgear, TP-Link, Ugreen and Huawei.
 
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They offer a good price/value/support for the money.


I bought their Nighthawk router years ago for a friend’s network. It didn’t perform as advertised and firmware updates were sparse. Basically stopped as soon as a newer model came on the market. Upgrading to openwrt is the only good upgrade you can do.
Nighthawk has a terrible reputation for a reason.
 
My Airport Extreme is still going strong! I imagine I will still use it for a couple more years.
Even if you can't configure it any more? (I know, you can keep a machine running an old OS version so you still have a no longer supported version of Airport Utility for when you need to change the config on your Extreme.)
 
Here is what Apple Support says about this ( I understand that they might not have all the info available as it is a rather fresh news)

"Also, I've just crossed checked with the internal team and I want to let you know if you're using the airport uitlity on Mac OS then you still be able to use it after Mac OS 27 release and same goes for iOS 27 as well."
This is incorrect. Updating to macOS 27 removes AirPort Utility and if reinstalled, it no longer works. Apple need to update their guidance.
 
I have just installed macOS 27 beta 5.
Airport Utility is still sitting there in Applications/Utilities folder and it works.
AFP is no longer existent but SMB1 is still there. I could connect to my SSD plugged to the USB2 port in my AirPort Extreme (A1521) and it shows properly in the Finder.
You may lose Time Machine capability but the NAS is still there.
For Time Machine I've been using an SSD connected to one of the usb-c ports of my Mac.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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I still think if Steve was around they would not have killed AE and it would have been updated but he is not and those units have not been updated in a very long time and its a shame because it was so easy to set up and they lasted a long time. My solution for me was a Ugreen NAS and 2 SSD plugged into the MBP periodically one once a week the other once a month.
 
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