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I can live with an easy inductive nightstand charger. So if it will run for a day im in....better make that a 2 days if watch is supposed to last 2 warrenty years in Denmark.
1 day of batterylife would be so bad when in 1 year or so the battery looses some life. Putting watch in charger before day is over would be an enormous blow also when battery turns 1 year old.

Again i dont think watches should follow moores law. Then there will only be disposable watches... Only Sultans would buy a watch with 2 year lifespan in gold.
 
It's the year 2014, why haven't we come up with innovative batteries that can outperform current ones.
 
To me, 1+ days of battery is fine. I charge my phone every night, I can charge a watch, too. It's when it goes less than a day that it becomes a problem.

If the wireless charging rumor is true and you just have to set it on some mat -- included! -- on your nightstand for a few hours, then maybe 30 hours of life with average usage will be fine. The original iPhone, iPad, iPod and MacBook Air didn't start off with great battery life. But now they're pretty good, especially the MacBook Air. Once the product gets built and people buy it, the makers of components have a much higher motivation to develop better energy-efficient parts.

It's kind of what Tesla is going through with batteries. Without making the Tesla S for early adopters, the company wouldn't have gotten into that market enough to now justify the gigafactory to make way more batteries per year.

I'm guessing the iWatch isn't going to be an instant mass device because none of the other Apple products were at first. My parents didn't get iPhones until a hand-me-down 3GS. My mom didn't get an iPad until she got an Air. I have other relatives whose first tablet was an iPad mini and plenty others who didn't own iPhones until the 4/4S models.

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It's the year 2014, why haven't we come up with innovative batteries that can outperform current ones.

They get better, but we keep getting them smaller. You could get a ton of battery life by making a bendable iPhone 5S to put on a wrist. But that would be clunky. So Apple has to find the right balance of battery size vs. battery life. You start making something that's going to be as thin and light as this thing and you just can't put much battery mass in it.
 
I work in the OR and believe it or not a lot of intraOR communication is done via SMS or iMessage. So I get a lot of txts. Many as simple as "coming out of 18" where no reply is warranted. It's fantastic to just glance at my wrist instead of pull my phone out especially if I'm trying to start an IV or Aline or something. I know I'm in the extreme minority here, just adding to the conversation.

convenient in one sense, I agree, but will it be easy sorting through a number of text messages? This new form factor will solve some problems and create new ones, not convinced that it would be a phone replacement yet. Maybe Tuesday will change my mind.
 
Thanks for noticing that I wasn't being entirely facetious. Of the iPod, iPhone, and iPad, which of them did any of us (honestly) think we needed before we saw them?

For the iPod and iPhone, I was not a believer. I eventually came around and have owned several of both. For the iPad, when I heard about it, I was one of the few people I know actually thinking it would sell well and be something I'd eventually want, precisely because I'd been so wrong twice before. That said, it still took me a while to actually want one; my first iPad was an iPad Air. It took until last year for Apple to finally make the thing thin enough, with a good enough screen and good enough battery life. But at no time did I doubt the earlier models would sell like crazy and create an entirely new market, even before it was officially announced.

Same deal with the iWatch. I don't yet know if I want one, though I suspect I eventually will (whether or not I can actually wear one without getting a skin rash remains to be seen, hopefully Apple makes smart material choices). I'm absolutely sure it will sell like crazy.

Other than my metal allergy which is my primary concern, I'm also very much a fan of analog watches. Even if I were to get a smart watch, I would require an overwhelming feature set for me to want to wear the thing every day. And when I dress up and go out, I would probably still prefer a nice analog watch as a fashion accessory. Apple has a tough road ahead convincing people like me to wear one. Will Apple utterly destroy the digital watch market, though, and make piles and piles of money? Sure they will. Lots of people who don't wear analog watches today will be very tempted by what Apple is going to offer.
 
Checking the time on a device in your pocket is what is dated. Wrist watches eventually replaced pocket watches, and wrist computers will someday replace pocket computers. That being said, I think we'll need a lot more diversity in designs before it catches on.

Never thought about it like that. Good call.
24-36 hours is what I'd call an acceptable battery life.
 
I'm not.... Look at your post you said "is it that hard to look at your phone.., I do it and I'm in healthcare". And I was just pointing out how others may not have the same luxury as you. Or how it's easier for others to just look at their wrist.

I don't know anyone who works in healthcare and doesn't wear a watch. Must not be a doctor, nurse, or EMT. Recording the times of things is a constant activity in practicing medicine, and a watch is an essential piece of medical equipment any doctor, nurse, or EMT is expected to wear. Maybe he's a hospital bureaucrat filing insurance forms.
 
I still find it strange that NO ONE has leaked the iWatch parts yet. But then again we don't get Mac "rumors" anymore either, thus the misleading website name.

Nobody knows what parts to leak. There's a lot of tech manufacturing companies, and until Apple actually announces the thing, nobody knows what sorts of parts it'll contain. This has been true of all of Apple's new product categories, to an extent.

It's very different with existing products because people know roughly what to look for. An iPhone camera or home button is going to pretty much look the same from one model to the next, even if it's an upgraded part it'll still connect in the same way, be roughly the same size, etc. The specific factory where all the parts are being delivered for final assembly will also be a lot easier to figure out.

Will the iWatch even have buttons? What screen size (or shape) will it have? What connectivity will it use? Where and when is it being assembled? There's too many unanswered questions to even begin to start looking for parts, and those parts are bought through a subsidiary under NDAs probably in some cases from companies that have never worked with Apple before. Unless you're the guy etching the Apple logo on the back of the thing, the parts for an iWatch could be the parts for just about anything else. Depending on the release date for the iWatch, there could be plenty of parts already out there, but what lowly factory worker knows to try to sneak one out and sell it to the press?

Those who do know enough to recognize parts or have access to spec sheets are also under the magnifying glass, and don't want to be sued when they inevitably get caught. Since the information is so tightly held it's not hard to investigate when very few people know the details. No doubt information outside of Apple is also highly compartmentalized. A single company might only supply a single part for the finished whole, and even if they do know it's for Apple and not some random holding company Apple has created to disguise their purchases, they don't know for sure it's for an iWatch instead of another product, and they don't know what the final assembled iWatch will look like since all they have is one piece.
 
I haven't worn a watch since high school, I can't imagine wanting to wear one now. Just me?
I briefly stopped wearing a watch shortly after I bought my first cellphone 15 years ago but having to pull out my phone just to see the time got old very fast. Also let's face it, even a $100 watch looks way nicer than a $500 phone.
 
A well made time piece is a beautiful thing.

Like I said, the clueless generations....

I asked why we are clueless and apparently you don't want to answer. You're clueless if you spending large amounts of money on a watch. I'm not clueless and doing just fine, thanks. I'm sure others read your posts as obnoxious as you intend them.
 
One whole day would be fine for me as a start. I have to put everything else on charge when I get home in the evening anyway. My iPhone is the worst it doesn't even last a working day. The key issue for me is the introduction of wireless charging. As long as it comes with some form of pad that I can put it on to charge it that would be fine. It all the bloody wires all over the place that I object to. Plug in my MB, iPad, iPhone, MiFi device, etc, etc and it just looks a mess. What we need is an Apple made wireless charging mat that you can put any Apple device on to charge with one power cable.
 
So basically you're saying Apple takes off the shelf parts made by others and stickers them in a case. Thanks for providing me a good laugh for the day.

Just curious...what are the current 600+ hardware engineering job openings at Apple for then exactly?

Most of them are likely for figuring out what parts to take off the shelves and how to best stick them in a case, just as with every other consumer electronics manufacturer. Some are likely also for making said cases.
 
I really doubt Apple would release something that has crappy battery life.

Really? I would put my 5S in that category for sure.

Are you crazy? My 5S has tremendous battery life. Maybe you just got a bad one, or use really terrible apps that weren't coded well. My old 4S was just barely adequate, but with my 5S I am using it all day long and have run out of battery exactly once after 14 hours of extremely heavy use.
 
I don't know anyone who works in healthcare and doesn't wear a watch. Must not be a doctor, nurse, or EMT. Recording the times of things is a constant activity in practicing medicine, and a watch is an essential piece of medical equipment any doctor, nurse, or EMT is expected to wear. Maybe he's a hospital bureaucrat filing insurance forms.

I am one of those and believe it or not I do just fine. If I needed a watch I would wear one if it would make me more efficient. I have no need. Maybe you guys should consider that someone could do things differently than you with success.
 
I think 2 days is the go-to mark.

And maybe they come up with a cool wireless charging option. like maybe you can put the iwatch ontop of the iphone 6 and it will charge it with it.
 
The best solution would be to use the same charging system as an iphone. I don't see myself owning one, but I think if it needs to be charged daily and it does not use a lightning connector it will be a mistake. Not having to take another charger would be a plus.

But if you plan on charging them overnight, you'll either have to get up in the middle of the night to switch the charger from one to the other, or end up packing two chargers in any case?

2018 iWatch 4.0. 4.7" screen looks and feels exactly like iPhone 6. Sits in pocket like iPhone.

It will be the amazing and revolutionary iPocketWatch. It'll change everything.
 
Is it too much yo ask for a smart watch battery to last 2 days? I would really like to invest into a smart watch but the battery life of these things is off putting.
 
Is it too much yo ask for a smart watch battery to last 2 days? I would really like to invest into a smart watch but the battery life of these things is off putting.

Evidently it is. I'm no designer, but clearly there are technical obstacles that prevented apple from having a longer life battery - otherwise they would have done it right?
 
I don't know anyone who works in healthcare and doesn't wear a watch. Must not be a doctor, nurse, or EMT. Recording the times of things is a constant activity in practicing medicine, and a watch is an essential piece of medical equipment any doctor, nurse, or EMT is expected to wear. Maybe he's a hospital bureaucrat filing insurance forms.


LOL!! That's a good point!
 
no doubt in my mind the iWatch has the best smartwatch battery life this year, a custom 20nm iWatch processor designed by Apple will absolutely blow away these Snapdragon 400 cores they use in the Android Wear watches.

The Pebble runs for days, if not weeks. No doubt in my mind that nothing what has been suggested so far will come anywhere near that.

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yep, a 20nm custom iWatch SoC solely for the iWatch will absolutely blow away these Snapdragon 400 cores used in the Android Wear watches

The CPU is by large irrelevant in an application like this. The screen and radios are what kills the batteries. That's the main reason why the Pebble does so well with its eInk-display.
 
Just out of interest, are the screens for these smart watches on all the time when battery life is measured, or is it more like a smart phone where you have to physically turn on the screen before using it?
 
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